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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:29 PM Original message |
Anyone pissed off at Obama over Lieberman should read "Roots" |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. Ah - so THAT'S where my dad got that line from! It's still fucking stupid as applied to Lieberman... |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. You're assuming that Lieberman is in a position to hurt Obama |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. I'm not sure if you understand the nature of the chairmanship he holds or not. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
66. I understand it very well |
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Frank Cannon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 04:49 AM Response to Reply #66 |
88. Bullshit. He's going to dog Obama every fucking minute for the next 4 years |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. Obama never said he wanted Lieberman to retain his chair. n/t |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Nor do I recall saying Obama *did* say that. Plz point out where I did. Thanks! |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. No, You never said it- I'm making sure people know its a fact though. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
53. Holy Joe DID attribute his ability ... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Then again, Joe is a traitor and a proven liar. |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. I think Machiavelli said something similar |
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mokawanis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. I read Roots |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. For what purpose? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. This is all about revenge? So you actually think Joe is honest & competent? |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Who said I was supporting Lieberman |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Did Obama ever say that he wanted Lieberman to retain his chair? |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm not pissed at Obama, who said nothing more than he wanted to |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Exactly- Obama did not engineer this... |
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political_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
6. You also forgot that a leopard never changes his spots. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Lieberman's track record is voting 90% with the Democrats |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. And his CT constituents expect him to maintain that record- chair or no chair. |
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political_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
64. True. But he'll be caucusing all the while flirting with the GOP and badmouthing the Dems. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. If true, the why the fuck did we just give him a top position? |
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political_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #69 |
81. No. People should be very alarmed that Lieberman is given a pass. |
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pocoloco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
8. Obama has a death grip on |
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quantass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
9. The Book: 'The 48 Laws to Power' says the same thing exactly. |
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always_saturday (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
10. So just where do you draw the line? Anywhere? |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Lieberman's a nothing. A nobody. A silly little man who has shown he doesn't even have any |
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always_saturday (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
84. You didn't answer my question. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. Obama never said that he wanted Lieberman to retain his chair. |
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always_saturday (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #31 |
85. Neither did you. |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
11. Lieberman can be removed from the chairmanship at any time. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
12. Nope... traitors you beat down... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
13. Welcome to DU! Great post! I detest Lieberman with the heat of a thousand suns, but I totally agree |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
16. Did Obama ever say that he wanted Lieberman to retain his chair? |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
17. agreed. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
25. Very well written post.... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Except Obama never said that he wanted Lieberman to retain his chair. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Yes, I do remember that Obama never gave that directive. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Right- so why agree with an OP that seems to suggest this? |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. I didn't gloss over anything |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. I disagree- and you are speculating, while I'm using the available facts. |
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poetsdream (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
27. I agree this is a good move |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Except Obama never said that he wanted Lieberman to retain his chair. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Good show, Dr |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I was alerted to the mods for "stalking" for doing so. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. The OP did not say what you claimed it said |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. The OP suggests that some DUers might feel the need to be angry at Obama. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Jolly good |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. It's propaganda- Pro-Lieberman DEMS want to paint good DEMS as "anti-change" |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. As we well know |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
28. I wonder if Lieberman is puckering up to give Obama a big smackeroo at his first State of the Union. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
29. This I do know.. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. True- and Obama never said that he wanted Lieberman to retain his chair. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
36. Thanks so much for posting this. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Except Obama never said that he wanted Lieberman to retain his chair. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I think that he going to be shortlived. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. You really seem to be obsessed with this one point |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. And I will continue to say it over and over- b/c no hard facts support the conventional wisdom. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I rarely put people on ignore, but you've become insufferable . . . |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I wasnt arguing for your benefit anyway- so ignore away. Those who cant debate can always ignore. |
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Gold Metal Flake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
47. What will be the focus of Lieberman's first hearings of 2009? |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
54. So, how'd that all work out for Kunta Kinte? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Besides- Obama never said that he wanted Lieberman to retain his chair. |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I hear what you're saying but you show up as nearly every alternating post in this thread. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. And yet there are 25 times as many posts on DU suggesting the opposite. |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I get that. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. I'm glad we can agree on many levels- not to mention your handle!! |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. I always love the Jerry ballads. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. It's because you're quibbling. Over and over and over. And over. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. And so are the Lieberman damage control people- they are posting much more than me. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Dude - no matter how right you are, spamming is troll-like behavior... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. I cant wait to see you call the Lieberman damage control spammers "trolls." |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. (facepalm) That's like the STUPIDEST false equivalence I've ever seen... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Right- so people with actual quotes are "trolls"- while people post'n misinformation get left alone. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #54 |
73. Did Kunta Kinte ever have his captors cornered? |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #73 |
80. For starters, it wasn't Kunta Kinte's father who gave that lesson |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
70. this is a great post, however |
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AndrewP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
71. Interesting and well said |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. At the risk of being accused of being a "troll"-do ya really believe that Obama wanted Joe as chair? |
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Willo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
74. Kunta was also given a rough option for LEAVING |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
76. Alex Haley borrowed from Sun Tzu's The Art of War - Chapter Seven: Armed Struggle |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. "do not press an enemy that is cornered" (Bears repeating) nt |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. When do we apply the Art of War to Joe's apparently WONDERFUL FP postitions? |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
82. Not holding Lieberman accountable for his trangressions signals that rules |
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AwakeAtLast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
83. I have kept silent on Lieberman until your post |
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JDwho (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:20 AM Response to Original message |
86. No, not ticked at all. It may have been on snide side, but Lieberman derserves much worse. |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:25 AM Response to Original message |
87. The lesson of the fable "The Scorpion and the Frog" is a better consideration. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 05:13 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. :) |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 05:31 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. :) Didn't notice you'd posted that already! |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 05:40 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. No worries - it bears repeating. I just liked the book-ends of the thread. |
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