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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 08:55 PM
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Political confessions of a GOP senator
Edited on Mon Nov-24-08 09:04 PM by Perky
TY his is a fascinating anonymous confessional

I am trying to figure out who it is.

I am betting its Lugar.


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15940.html

What do you think?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 09:01 PM
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1. I thinl it gigures to be Lugar
Hehe - just messing with your typos :)
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 09:05 PM
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3. What Typos?
:shrug:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 09:07 PM
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6. I got time stamps on my side!!
:)
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 09:03 PM
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2. i don't think it's Lugar.
based on this part

He throws out some other names: Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, Newt Gingrich, Tim Pawlenty, Charlie Crist and Bobby Jindal, the 37-year-old governor of Louisiana. “Jindal is a rising star from the get-go,” the senator says.

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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 09:07 PM
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5. Well It is not a Southerner, becuse they would not be a moderate on Immigration
Its not the ladies from Maine. It could be Mel Martinez I suppose.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 09:33 PM
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10. And Lugar tends not to be the glum type.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 09:34 PM
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11. and i really can't see him even say "Huckabee" you know?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 11:43 PM
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21. and he is not going to broadside a bunch of Republicans anonymously
That is so not his style.

Lugar is a classy guy. Very restrained. Speaks clearly on things he has thought a lot about. This whole interview seems a little meandering, undisciplined, more of a rant than a cogent explanation of what happened to the Republican Party in recent years. Which is why I think it's not Hagel but more characteristic of Voinovich.

I also think Voinovich is the one senator of those mentioned who is stupid enough to think he can blather on about a lot of things and remain anonymous. Lugar wouldn't do it and Hagel knows it would never be kept a secret.
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camera obscura Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 09:07 PM
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4. Moderate on immigration - Lindsey Graham, George Voinovich, Arlen Specter, Jon Kyl...?
Could be one of those.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 09:08 PM
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7.  Not Graham.....To much of a McCain supporter,
Voinovich make sense
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 09:09 PM
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8. I find it funny that some posters there are so missing the boat
"return to conservative roots" Duh. They went so conservative over the years that they lost the middle. The middle went back to the Dems. Stupid, dumb conservatives. The demographics are changing , either you change or you will be left behind. Their answer is to go further to the right! Do they not get that Palin cost McLame votes, including my mother in law who was scared to death by Phalin? I don't know, let them run this way in 2012. Its better for us anyway, stupid dumbasses.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 09:23 PM
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9. Lugar? Hagel?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 09:34 PM
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12. Hagel is probably more likely than Lugar.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 09:50 PM
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13. Either Jindal or Pawlenty, who made similar statements this past weekend...
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 09:57 PM
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14. um neither in a Senator
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 10:39 PM
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15. Oh, yeah! LOL! That's what I get for not reading well... n/t
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 10:47 PM
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16. I'm thinking FL Sen. Mel Martinez
Edited on Mon Nov-24-08 10:48 PM by DFLforever
-Campaigned with Palin
-had nice things to say about Jeb Bush
-worried about loss of Hispanic vote
-Moderate on immigration.

edit: typo
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 10:51 PM
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18. That's who I think it is, too. He talked about Florida a lot.
Mentioning Palin going to dinners in Iowa and Florida. Why Florida?

Then the Jeb Bush stuff.

I'm 99% sure the Senator is Mel Martinez.

And he's probably a little miffed that he lost his role as RNC chair.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 10:49 PM
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17. My money is on Mel Martinez
Lugar is far too old school to have said this stuff. He's a decent guy who you could have lunch with and not want to throttle him, and he's smart.

“But he led with his heart!” the senator goes on. “Look what he did after 9/11. OK, he should have landed the airplane in New Orleans . But on Iraq, all he did is what Hillary would have done.” -- yea right. I don't think Lugar or Hagel would be under these kinds of misconceptions or say that kind of thing. I thought Orrin Hatch, but too many other bits just didn't fit.

Regarding Palin the "I did rallies with her, and she is a phenomenon" leads to Martinez for me, as well as his references to Jeb and Crist, both from Florida. He also has a lack of faith in St. Ronnie the Savior of all things Republican.

Just a stab - honestly, I have no idea. I hope they do go with Jindal next round, and all the hyper-religiosity that comes with him - or Palin, of course.
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 11:01 PM
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19. As a Floridian... has to be Mel Martinez.... only outsider I could think of would be Voinovich
Talked about Hispanics. Talked about Florida. Has to be him. But it could just be an extremely intelligent Republican Senator like Voinovich who is highly respected in Ohio for the most part. By highly respected I mean consistently wins no less than 60% of the vote.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 11:38 PM
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20. Not Lugar and here's why:
If Lugar wanted to say those things, he would. He's not going to do some anonymous thing.

Lugar is not confrontational.

Lugar does not wax philosophic on issues he's not an expert on.

This sounds like Voinovich. The homeownership answer about Bush's legacy doesn't sound like an answer Hagel would give.

Also sounds like someone who plans to be in the Senate for a couple years longer, not someone who is retiring from it in a month.

Voinovich.

That's my answer.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 11:48 PM
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22. This guy hasn't learned either
Read the article. He's clueless, 90%. Which is better than the 100% of most pubs but still.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 11:50 PM
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23. All I know is that the Senator mentioned that Jindal was a rising star.
Edited on Mon Nov-24-08 11:51 PM by political_Dem
He's one to watch. Furthermore, "the Senator" said that Blacks were largely written off in the Republican party. However, Latinos/a(s) can be appealed to. Which mean they are still up to their old tricks of pitting one community of color against another.

Yes, they're not truly dead. They're on life support. In fact, the GOP is fighting to wake up from their long coma.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 11:53 PM
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24. Someone older than Jeb Bush. ;o) But I can't see Lugar saying "from the get-go".
Martinez is a good bet. Or maybe one of those other Hispanic Republicans... ha-ha.

Not Hagel, though. Only a real right winger would seriously suggest Bobby Jindal. Martinez is smart enough to know when the old approach isn't working--and conservative as he is, he's never been a fire breather like McConnel or Hatch. He guards his words carefully, which Republicans in safer states don't have to do. My guess is he's worried about ever being a chair again, or even about his reelection.

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