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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:10 PM
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Jesse Jackson Jr sure does lack his dad's charisma
Not a very likeable persona, IMHO. He may be a wonderful rep and great democrat - but he's got
a way to go on the personality meter. Guess I didn't like the way he spoke against his own
father after he hot miked.

I worked for Jackson Sr. When he walked into a room he would take the air out
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:11 PM
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1. I disagree. He's a different person with his own way of doing things. Eta:
Edited on Wed Dec-10-08 05:12 PM by sfexpat2000
I met Sr. and he was very charming.

Must be hard to constantly be compared that way.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:16 PM
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11. ya, well even if you don't compare him to his dad, his style is just
not my cup a tea. Not that it matters what I think about him. He seems just too wound up tight - too serious.
But since his dad always pushed the envelope maybe he kind of rebelled against it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:42 PM
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22. He is wound up tighter. I agree with that. n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:11 PM
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2. And I think JJJr is terrific. Go figure. nt
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:54 PM
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46. I certainly prefer him to his dad. I can understand what he says for one thing.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:12 PM
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3. Jackson Sr. is great.
Junior, meh, not so much. I agree with you.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 10:28 PM
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39. Yes, they should appoint him Senator - He's definitely paid his dues
for years and years and years - always showing up to stand up to the little guy.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:12 PM
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4. I like Jr. I think he did the right thing in speaking against his
dad. Dad shouldn't have been talking like an idiot in a Faux mike. I like him a lot and think he showed great personality in defending himself today. Sorry, I have to disagree with you on this one.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:20 PM
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13. It's ok - to each his own. I think he did fine today. Just don't like
that uptight, rigid acting persona.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 08:46 PM
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38. He is not my cup of tea either. nt
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:12 PM
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5. I think JJJ is fine. He is not his father. Sorry if that disappoints you.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:23 PM
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17. Why would I be disappointed with your opinion?
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:14 PM
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6. I like him.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:14 PM
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7. He has more class than his father, though... and is arguably less of an egotistical prick.
Edited on Wed Dec-10-08 05:17 PM by ClarkUSA
Charisma is overrated when not paired with wisdom and class. I prefer someone with the smarts not to make an ass out of
himself than a showboat with an ego the size of the Titanic. What he said about wanting to cut Barack's nuts off turned me
off him forever. Talk about an unpleasant personality!
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:22 PM
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15. Hmm. Maybe egotism and charm go together?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:35 PM
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20. Egotists are often charming but there are plenty of charming people who are not egotists.
Edited on Wed Dec-10-08 05:46 PM by ClarkUSA
:shrug:
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 06:08 PM
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25. Well, you have to have some ego - maybe that's self confidence. Like I think
Obama has a very strong ego. And he is charming.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 10:58 AM
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51. True, but having a healthy ego is not the same as being egotistical, right?
:shrug:
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 07:10 PM
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30. I agree!
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:14 PM
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8. I don't know as much about him, but I'm impressed with JJJ
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:15 PM
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9. Funny, I think Congressman Jackson has a great deal of charisma.
I guess we all see different things in people.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:17 PM
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12. wow! great deal?? you're right - people see things differently for sure.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:15 PM
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10. i think most people would find Jr more likable than his dad
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:20 PM
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14. hmmm. and you base that on what, exactly?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:24 PM
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18. from the times i have seen him i find Jr more likable than his dad
also there are a lot of people who don't like his dad.

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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:23 PM
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16. I like JJJ quite a bit more than the original model. nt
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:29 PM
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19. I definately like Jr. more than his dad
His father can be a very difficult man and pretty loose with the women.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:37 PM
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21. I like him. Can't relate to his dad
or even understand what he's saying most times.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 06:09 PM
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26. lol ! he does have a unique way of talking that's for sure.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:44 PM
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23. I think Jesse Jackson's "charisma" is in the eye of the
beholder.I can't watch the guy for more than a couple of minutes. I think what takes the air out of the room when he walks in is the need to make room for his enormous ego. I like JJJ way better.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 06:03 PM
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24. you are right. Guess I like charm and strong ego more than uptight and
and do-right.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 06:11 PM
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27. I like them both. n/t
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Tveil Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 06:16 PM
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28. Really like Jr./ Can't stand Sr. n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 06:19 PM
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29. He's more TV-friendly than his dad--kind of a square-jaw Clark Kent style
Ramrod stiff, almost to the point of being cartoonish. But in a good way.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 07:20 PM
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32. you need to be a writer ! excellent description
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 07:11 PM
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31. We clearly disagree. eom
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 07:37 PM
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33. Is Jesse Jr always like that?
I'm not very familiar with him. I just saw him on Hardball doing his thing and his serious demeanor seemed appropriate for the occasion. He seemed condident and slightly offended, as innocent people will be when accused of wrongdoing. Now if he acts like this all the time....
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 10:30 PM
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40. I don't know him either - just from this scandal. He does strike me
as telling the truth.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 01:21 AM
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49. He was a fine surrogate for Obama during the primaries, iirc. n/t
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mwei924 Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 07:38 PM
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34. He's probably better off without too much of his dad's "charisma".
It definitely rubs a lot of people the wrong way.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 07:41 PM
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35. I like JJJ better, he has none of the father's arrogance
Besides, its hard for kids to grow up in the shadows of their parents.
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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 07:58 PM
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36. i like jr.
sr has disappointed me over and over. sr has lost all charisma in my book. jr has had to do his thing in the shadow of his fathers indiscretions-he has done a fine job. he'll rebound from this and continue to rep his district. perhaps his dad can lay low for awhile and stay off of fox and be a father to his young child.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 08:22 PM
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37. Myself, I like him more than his father
Sr is something of a windbag, whereas Jr is always on point
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 10:35 PM
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41. At least you can understand what the hell he's saying.
And he doesn't try to rhyme every other sentence.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 10:41 PM
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43. LOL . He's a poet
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 10:36 PM
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42. I haven't seen his press conference...
regarding this latest brou-ha-ha, but I understand what you're saying, in that he does seem serious and cautious when he is speaking. Maybe he learned a little too much from what his Dad has gone through.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 10:48 PM
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44. Yeah, I can understand that but sometimes family are wrong and there is no avoiding that but it's >
Edited on Wed Dec-10-08 10:50 PM by cooolandrew
all overcome now and think they all get along now. I think Jesse would make an outstanding senator as he has something to prove. He's kind of vital for the senate right now as it needs oomph after the big characters moving to administrative positions.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 10:50 PM
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45. I'm glad because many say that Jesse Sr is full of BS
Jesse Jr seems to be his own man and should be graded as such
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 01:12 AM
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47. I like the father, not the son.
I still remember his ad hominem attacks during the primaries. After the NH primary questioning why didn't Hillary cry for the Katrina victims and crap of that nature. If he has nothing to hide he'll be fine, if not screw him.

:shrug:
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:56 AM
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53. really? I never heard about that Hillary thing.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:21 PM
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56. Yes, and it pissed me off no end.
Edited on Thu Dec-11-08 04:23 PM by Beacool
It had nothing to do with the subject at hand. He was in either CNN or MSNBC as an Obama surrogate and there was a big ado about the incident in NH where her voice cracked (she never cried and even if she had, so what?). Jesse Jr. was quite nasty, he mocked her and questioned why didn't she cry for the victims of Katrina and the victims of some other tragedy which I can't remember right now. Well, I don't recall his candidate crying either. Furthermore, Obama went to New Orleans at Hillary's invitation. Bill also went there to offer his foundation's aid. So, for Jesse to be throwing ad hominem attacks was beyond the pale. Since then I can't stand the guy.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 01:14 AM
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48. I like him. He's attractive and smart and straightforward.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 01:57 AM
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50. Sorry, but I'll take Junior's substance over his dad's lack of substance any day.
His father has become a joke, a punchline.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:02 PM
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54. I disagree. Sr has been there, standing up for the little guy,
for years and years. Unfortunately, he's had zipper issues and diarrhea of the mouth issues. Unfortunate, because it makes
people forget all the good things he has done and the way he has stood up against injustice all his life - many times in
a quiet, non-publicized way.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:42 AM
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52. And his anti-Semitism.
Thankfully I didn't hear him talk about "Hymietown" like his dad did.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:05 PM
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55. But probably not his opportunism
I am very curious as to how this plays out.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 06:00 PM
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57. sorry, but when his dad speaks, I need subtitles.
JJ Jr. speaks clearly, at least.
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Lady-Damai Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 06:02 PM
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58. LMAO! n/t
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 07:25 PM
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59. I never thought Jessie Sr. had any charisma.
In fact, I find him pretty annoying. I haven't heard much from Jessie Jr. other than yesterday's press conference, but he seems okay.
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