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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:05 PM
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Just Watched The Swearing In Again. Didn't Realize They Both Messed Up! (I Think)
Edited on Tue Jan-20-09 07:05 PM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
I kept hearing about Roberts messing up and from reading DU thought that Obama then paused, waited for it to be said correctly, and then finally repeated it back.

Upon watching it again (just to watch it again, not for that reason), that does seem to be the case as far as why he paused (since Roberts messed it up), but then when Roberts stated it correctly Obama then repeated it the way Roberts said it the FIRST time, not the second (Obama still said faithfully last).

So I'm curious: Do you think Obama had a quick lapse as well (stumbled and accidentally repeated the flawed verse) or do you think out of respect rather than act smug as if he had to correct him, he chose to say it the flawed way in order to not seem petty? I'm not sure to be honest. I thought he ended up saying it the right way but he didn't.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:08 PM
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1. He repeated what Roberts said
I think he didn't want to embarrass Roberts any further by having to verbally correct him on the podium.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:20 PM
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45. Exactly
Obama caught the mistake, but let it roll, even when Roberts said it wrong again, Obama just said it so as not to point to the fact that Roberts is a dick... erm... that Roberts fucked up.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:08 PM
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2. He was being respectful...I believe
Later at the luncheon, Roberts came up to President Obama and Said "my fault".
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:09 PM
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3. LOL For Real? I Hadn't Heard That Yet!
:rofl:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:13 PM
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7. Well, maybe Roberts isn't a total Republican
It's nice to see the Clenis not get charged with causing something for once.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:27 PM
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13. The mighty CLENIS!!!!
LOL!!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:11 PM
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41. what the hell is that image in your sig line
Don't you think you should give Obama a chance to govern before you allude to him being no different the 43?

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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:43 PM
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50. I asked him/her that yesterday and got no response.
I find the photo offensive and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:45 PM
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52. I find it very offensive
and it appears the "owner" of the sig doesn't wish to defend it.

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Venceremos Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:09 PM
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4. I think they were both nervous
I've read various opinions all over the internet, some accusing Roberts of intentionally trying to mess up the swearing in, others accusing Obama of being smug and so on. Just my opinion but I don't think either one of them had any ulterior motives, either good or bad. Just nervousness.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:27 PM
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27. I think Roberts was being a dick
Obama wanted it to be correct. There is nothing smug in wanting things to be correct.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:09 PM
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5. Roberts did. Obama didn't.
Obama KNEW the oath.
Roberts didn't.
Obama paused, nodded at Roberts, let him recover and start again.
Roberts still screwed it up.
Obama gave the proper oath as well as he could given Roberts' eff up.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:04 PM
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23. I saw hours ago, on Yahoo, that Roberts took credit for the flub.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:12 PM
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6. If anything, the flub showed Obama was listening to Roberts, not just reciting
He didn't know whether to say it right or follow Robert's lead. They both handled it okay. They'll both do better four years from now.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:15 PM
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8. ...
:thumbsup:

:woohoo:
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:22 PM
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9. Now, that's a good thought to cling to.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:22 PM
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10. From watching the entire exchange I'd say they were both Nervous and that caused
the goof up. Roberts was more nervous and Obama tried helping him out. At the lunch after, Obama went out of way to shake Roberts hand, who sincerely shook back. Just a goof up, no biggie.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:24 PM
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11. OMC. I am ashamed of you.
Don't you know that Roberts did it on purpose to fuck up Obama's day? That Obama truly isn't President now?

Seriously, OMC. Keep up.


:sarcasm:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:33 PM
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14. Midlo Midlo Midlo, You Silly Little Thing... Everyone Knows He Wouldn't Have Been President To
begin with. Haven't you seen his birth certificate????

:hug:

:loveya:

What a day!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:26 PM
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12. I Think Roberts Got Ahead of Him, And He Reacted, And
That threw Roberts off further.

It's not that big a deal to me.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:37 PM
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15. Well I guess that means he's not really President, hunh?
And no, Obama didn't fuck up. Roberts did.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:40 PM
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16. OMG!!!! He's Not???
:dunce:
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:41 PM
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17. They were both nervous
and, it seemed to me that Roberts was more nervous than Obama. What struck me is how Michelle looked at Obama during this exchange. There was a lot of calming love there. I think she helped Obama stay as calm as was possible.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:42 PM
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18. She Was Somethin Wasn't She? So Beautiful And Strong Today. What A First Family!
All of them, kids included, just total gold.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:01 PM
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22. They truly are, OMC.
This is a genuinely amazing family (with an emphasis on the "genuinely").

:hi:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:46 PM
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19. i think Obama was trying to help Roberts out and not make him feel bad.
i'm sure Roberts was nervous as well, i would have been, a historic event in terms of who is now 44 and the size of the crowd.
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:52 PM
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20. That's what I felt too. He was totally kind and empathetic with him and was
trying to mitigate his embarrassment.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:56 PM
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21. Well I wasn't!
:P
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:12 PM
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24. Olbermann just said they both stumbled. n/t
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:25 PM
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25. No way Obama didn't know that oath. He had it engraved on his brain.
He was totally prepared to say it the right way.

Roberts was a total eff up...
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 09:26 PM
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35. You're right. Keith (and Roberts) were wrong. Rachel Maddow just said Roberts
apologized to Obama "after the fact."
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:28 PM
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28. Well, then Olberman is wrong
It was obvious that Obama's "stumble" was a question.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:26 PM
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26. Wrong
Roberts messed up, Obama corrected him. That is what you heard. Obama knew this by heart, that is why he caught Roberts' error.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:31 PM
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29. Exactly.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 09:16 PM
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31. Ummmmm,
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 09:15 PM
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30. You're Wrong.
Not sure if Obama did it intentionally or not (hence the OP), but what he repeated was the wrong version, not the right version. You might want to get your facts straight prior to replying so matter of factly.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:08 PM
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38. No, dude... you are wrong... get real
I've watched that scene at least a dozen times since it went down live. Did you bother reading what was actually supposed to be said? If you had, you would understand the look Obama gave Roberts, and you will understand why he said what he said. Roberts has since apologized for his fuck up. I don't expect that sort of thing from you, though, no worries.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:10 PM
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39. Pay Attention: You. Are. Wrong.
Obama repeated Robert's wrong version, not the corrected one. No biggie obviously, but I didn't know if he repeated the slip-up by mistake or out of respect. But to say he repeated it back correctly is just flat out wrong.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:14 PM
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42. Oh, the irony
I never said Obama repeated it back correctly, but that Obama repeated it back.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:16 PM
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43. You Have Completely Missed The Point Of All Of This.
I'm not surprised in the least. :hi:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:34 PM
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46. Wrong again...
You really should pay more attention when your intention is to insult. It really does look silly.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:39 PM
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48. You Can Repeat That I'm Wrong Until You're Blue In The Face.
But a simple perusal of your posts in this thread show quite readily that you have no clue what the point or intent of this thread was. Your childish bitterness sometimes has a way of overtaking your already limited judgment. :hi:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:41 PM
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49. You need to re-read your OP
Wherein you state that they both screwed up. No, they did not both screw up.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:45 PM
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51. You Need To Re-Read It.
You then need to realize there was a question pertaining to it, and wondering what others perceptions were since the determination as to whether it was or wasn't repeated in error can ONLY be one of opinion.

You stating it as blunt fact is a sign of either your complete misunderstanding of the example in the OP, or just flat out ignorance. :hi:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 09:17 PM
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32. My impression was that Obama jumped the gun a little, then Roberts just flubbed it...
Edited on Tue Jan-20-09 09:18 PM by BlooInBloo
And then they both looked at each other a bit before getting back in sync.


EDIT: I don't really care enough to spend time on it, though.
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 09:20 PM
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33. Obama's main screwup was at the very beginning...
but that was partly Roberts' fault. Obama began reciting his name before Roberts could say "do solemnly swear." It was supposed to be one phrase, but Barack thought there would be a pause between the two. When looking at past swearing-in's, however, it's clear that they usually do it in one phrase. "I, Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear" rather than "I, Barack Hussein Obama"........"Do solemnly swear." The whole moment was awkward, but I think it was a blessing in disguise. As Clio pointed out on here earlier today, we got some WONDERFUL pictures of them smiling because they were embarrassed and laughing at themselves. Barack flashed that billion watt smile, which was pretty cool to see. :)
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 10:18 PM
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37. I Loved The Way Michelle Was Smiling At Him Through It.
What a day!

I just watched the whole thing again with my girlfriend (she hadn't seen it yet). I relived the excitement all over again and just love how proud we can be of our new President! And my girlfriend isn't political at all, but after the speech she said so bluntly "Wow, that was a great speech. He's awesome!".

:toast:
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 09:21 PM
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34. Rachel just played it again.
Clearly Roberts fucked it up. And later apologized, apparently. But it's not all that surprising considering he never even saw a courtroom until 2002 and (like Chimpy himself) was seriously under qualified for the job he was appointed to.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 10:16 PM
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36. I Know He Fucked It Up.
My surprise came when I heard Obama recite the wrong phrase back instead of the corrected right one. I had been under the impression all day that after Obama paused and Roberts repeated it correctly, that Obama then recited back the correct version. I didn't realize till later that Obama repeated the wrong version as well (with faithfully coming last).
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:11 PM
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40. Get over it...
Obama is a much bigger man than you give him credit for. Clearly he didn't want to make too big a deal out of this.

Unless you're a Freeper who will claim that Obama isn't president because this wasn't recited verbatim, then you should let it go. Everyone should just let it go. Take the high road... for once.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:18 PM
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44. Nothing To Get Over Baiter.
It was just a simple question on what people's opinions were as to why he repeated back the wrong version.

Furthermore, your statement that Obama is a much bigger man that I give him credit for makes zero sense. One would have to wonder what kind of skewed mindset was in place that created such a flawed and illogical statement.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:38 PM
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47. The thing was a mess from the beginning
Edited on Wed Jan-21-09 01:41 PM by theboss
Obama thought Roberts was going to stop after "I, Barrack Hussein Obama" and stepped on the next line. Then he repeated it.

Then Roberts left out "faithfully" and Obama waited for him to correct it.

Then he added "faithfully" in the wrong place.

And Obama just said "Fuck it" and said it how Roberts said it.

It seemed like one of those Olympic gymnastic routines where someone falls and just finishes whatever they have left.

What probably should have happened is this: Roberts apologizes and begins the oath again. But they both had that "What do we do now?" look and plowed ahead.
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