Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Group Finds California Miscalculated HS Dropout Rates

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Places » California Donate to DU
 
Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 07:51 PM
Original message
Group Finds California Miscalculated HS Dropout Rates
Group Finds California Miscalculated HS Dropout Rates
Harvard Researchers Use Different Methodology To Calculate Rate

POSTED: 3:37 pm PST March 24, 2005
UPDATED: 3:43 pm PST March 24, 2005

LOS ANGELES -- California's high school dropout rates were miscalculated, and more accurate figures show that only half of male Hispanic and black students in the state earned regular high school diplomas, a civil rights group said.

The state has reported a graduation rate of 87 percent for 2002, but researchers with The Civil Rights Project of Harvard University using a different methodology said Wednesday the rate is closer to 71 percent.

Graduation rates for minority students were significantly lower - 57 percent for blacks, 60 percent for Hispanics and 52 percent for American Indians.

For minority males, the figures were even worse, according to the group's statistics that reflect the percentage of 9th grade students who graduated with their 12 grade class. Fifty percent of blacks earned high school diplomas, compared to 54 percent of Hispanics and 46 percent of American Indians.

more...
http://www.thekcrachannel.com/education/4316324/detail.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 07:59 PM
Response to Original message
1. It's really hard to accurately track that data
The state requires you to report what happens with students that stop attending your school - you are supposed to enter a code saying whether they dropped out, went to adult ed, homeschooling, a different school in the same district, a different district, a private school, etc. And in an ideal world, you could enter accurate data.

But it's incredibly common for a student to just stop attending and not return phone calls, or to just say they are being homeschooled so they don't get lectured. Trying to get the parents of a drop out to actually contact the school is like pulling teeth sometimes. Anyone expecting that data to be accurate is living in a dream world.

The problem is compounded by schools feeling pressured to report less dropouts, so if they don't know whether a child is homeschooled or has dropped out, if they can't get a response from the family, why would they enter a code for dropout, if they can enter a homeschooled code instead and legitimately claim they didn't know which it was?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:45 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. It shouldn't be that difficult
to confirm that a kid is homeschooled. If the kid is in some faux homeschool charter or a private "cover school" (programs that do the paperwork and generally offer curriculum and grading services for a fee) the new school should be reporting thier data. If they're homeschooled on an r4, the state should recieve the r4 from the parents remove the child from school. There's no reporting requirement for the tutor option, but almost no one uses that option. Some parents prefer to homeschool "underground" without reporting, but most of them never enrolled thier children in school to begin with.

The state should be able to distinguish legitimate homeschoolers from dropouts in most cases simply by checking records, which shouldn't be hard to do as the state requires r4's to be filed electronicly so they can be stored in a database.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 12th 2024, 02:17 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Places » California Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC