MagickMuffin
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Tue May-20-08 07:26 PM
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Boyd Richie seeking reelection, just received a letter |
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What do y'all think about his job so far?.?.?
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Wed May-21-08 05:54 AM
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Wed May-21-08 11:08 AM
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2. Hey! I didn't get the letter. |
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Um.
Well.
He'd better be willing to say who he's going to support as a superdelegate.
Who's running against him, then?
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Wed May-21-08 03:02 PM
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5. I predict he will have |
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a handful of challengers, combining vice-chair and chair candidates to satisfy the minority stipulations. Three or four at minimum, possibly more. Boyd makes the runoff to the second ballot and it's anybody's guess whether he survives that.
The outcome depends on several factors which are fluid: how the endgame of the presidential primary plays out (remember that the final primary is on the Tuesday before the weekend of our convention), whether Mrs. Clinton concedes at that time, whether her delegates still plan on a credentials committee floor fight, how BR manages to steer through such a circumstance with his efforts to play both sides (he's balanced all of this suggestions for permanent officers so far, keeping his own preference close to his vest), how the Obama delegates will react if they realize they're getting fucked, etc., etc.
Lots of hazards for him ahead. Course, he could just skate right through it. He and his minions manipulated the PPC and other caucuses expertly two years ago when the opposition was divided, and that is definitely the case again this time (divided opposition, that is).
The Clinton bloc and just enough Obama people who don't want to rock the boat may be sufficient to tide him over. Time will tell.
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Mon May-26-08 10:03 AM
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12. A Clinton credentials floor fight would be completely futile |
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Edited on Mon May-26-08 10:04 AM by Gman
Obama will control the convention. Any credentials fight means the convention will recess at 3 a.m. Saturday morning as there will be an endless stream of roll call votes. Although I'm a Hillary delegate, I'll have no part of supidity. Instead, there's lots of hospitality rooms so that's where I'll be if stupidity breaks out.
The first skill of politics is knowing how to count. It's really very simple to do.
BTW, there is no credible, serious challenger to BR. He will be reelected. And it's not really honest to say he's playing both sides. That's what people say when someone they don't care for is trying to be impartial.
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Mon May-26-08 09:01 PM
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No one else knows what the *uck they are doing except wanting change for the sake of change.
Boyd is doing fine.
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Tue May-27-08 07:47 AM
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18. Yeah you prolly right |
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Wed May-21-08 02:00 PM
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3. no letter. lots of crickets... for Known Maxey supporters |
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Wed May-21-08 02:04 PM
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Wow, that's pretty astute of them to figure out who the Maxey people are -- I mean, it's not like my name was on a list anywhere -- at least, I didn't think so (!)
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Wed May-21-08 04:19 PM
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6. They may not know who we are, but I'm sure they know who the |
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Edited on Wed May-21-08 04:22 PM by Melissa G
Boyd people are and that singles out the rest of us. I'm remembering you were at the convention in '06 and saw all the games that were played, no?
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Wed May-21-08 06:10 PM
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Wed May-21-08 06:27 PM
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I did, however, get the letter today, so perhaps they are just being slow.
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Thu May-22-08 10:32 AM
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11. Well I hope that isn't the case. Maybe you'll get one soon. |
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I definitely am not a Boyd supporter. But the TDP has have my email and home address. The letter's return address has it coming from the TPD "State Democratic Executive Committee" and Boyd's name was assigned to it.
I wonder who else is running for State Chair.
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Thu May-22-08 09:26 AM
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9. He mentioned inviting both Clinton and Obama to the State Convention |
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At least one of them had better show up. But I still think Richie may have bitten off more than he can chew. We need a TDP that will maintain a strong statewide presence, and right now I'm just not seeing that.
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Thu May-22-08 10:26 AM
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10. I think the State leadership should spend more time working within our local offices |
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to help get more people involved. There hasn't been the support needed to develop our base.
Such as how to get more voters to show up on election days. Informing our base about the Precinct Convention/Caucus and why it is IMPORTANT that we attend them.
Obama really started a great ground plan with get people interested in the process. Of course Howard Dean before him got the ball rolling. But with Obama more and more people are getting involved for the first time and learning as they go forth. I've been meeting a lot of these wonderful people.
With that said it should have been the State leadership getting more people involved. I know that a lot of the Texas DUers decided to learn about the process and get involved in that very process. I haven't been as involved in the past because I did not know how the Texas Democratic Party worked. But since the internet it is a lot easier to find the info needed to make a difference.
About the State Convention. I attended a local Obama meeting and was told that Texas is a bigger convention then the National Convention and that the Obama Campaign were going to use it as a trial run. They said they weren't sure if Obama would show up but there would be a lot of his top trier people attending.
Maybe we could start a GET OBAMA TO THE STATE CONVENTION DRIVE. I have several email addresses that could come in handy to help facilitate this. One of the contacts has been working with Obama since his Senate campaign and has met Obama several times.
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Mon May-26-08 08:54 PM
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14. If you start a drive, I'm in! |
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Mon May-26-08 02:23 PM
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13. Will Boyd declare for President after June 3rd? |
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When the remaining undeclared superdelegates (which include both he and his wife, along with a handful of other Texans) hold all the control of the Democratic nomination?
Or do you think he will continue to straddle the fence -- hoping not to piss off 50% of the Texas delegates no matter what he does -- long enough to get re-elected chairman?
Maybe he's just waiting to declare until the moment immediately after Mrs. Clinton suspends her campaign. You know, sort of like the rest of us. Not that he could, as state party chair and an undeclared superdelegate, dare to exert any influence one way or the other, of course.
That's the kind of leadership we have come to expect, after all.
What if the Clinton delegation plans on carrying the fight to the state convention credentials committee, trying to influence the delegate count once again, as they did at the SD conventions? Will he remain undeclared if his convention gets ugly as a result? And what if Mrs. Clinton carries her quixotic fight all the way to Denver (and Boyd has been re-elected chair)? Will he still be undeclared then?
It really seems to me as if the chairman is a Clinton devotee and just doesn't want to say so. Maybe someone who knows him better than I could just out-and-out ask him.
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Mon May-26-08 08:59 PM
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15. Why should he get re-elected? |
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I mean seriously. what the hell has he done besides: 1. Create a killer database for voter identification and campaigns 2. Provide training on how to use the database 3. Have townhall meetings all over the state 4. Have found funding to establish our party infrastructure 5. Provide field consultants 6. Created a commission to get input on the caucus process prior to the next election
Other than that, we need CHANGE! Lots and lots of CHANGE!
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Tue May-27-08 07:32 AM
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17. 1. BR couldn't find a database with |
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... both hands and a mirror and someone to point at it.
2. That was the Trust.
3. A good thing, but probably not his idea either.
4. That was the Trust.
5. That was the DNC (check your avatar).
6. "create a commission"? Seriously? That makes him as effective and worthy of re-election as Governor MoFo.
Glad you're finally on board with the Change thing, brother. :thumbsup:
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Tue May-27-08 08:17 AM
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19. Change for the sake of change is not change. |
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Perry,
The party is moving forward, probably not in your direction, but forward nevertheless. The database was funded from "the trust" who Boyd worked with to establish. He went out and found money for this project and it was not cheap.
Candidates have to donate to use the database and it is WELL WORTH IT. If a candidate didn't use it it was probably because they don't know what they were doing, or they didn't raise enough money to donate, both are reasons not to run.
The database has been an INCREDIBLE tool to use. Lampson's staff had it down to a science. We intend to use the living hell out of it this year. We could not run a campaign without it.
For this alone, Boyd deserves a HUGE amount of thanks for securing the funding and creating this database. And he deserves a second term.
I've heard you and David Van Os rantings and ravings and still cant figure out why you guys are so mad. Maybe it has to do with the campaign in 2006?
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Tue May-27-08 08:59 AM
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Neither is anybody else (except maybe you, and you shouldn't be upset about Mrs. Clinton's utter collapse. It's just politics, after all).
Boyd neither created nor funded the database, but if you wish to give him credit for it, that's your prerogative. I don't think that or any of the other reasons you cite make him worthy of re-election, and perhaps enough people will see it the same way to replace him with a state party chair that cares about more than just a "few select targeted" races.
If we get stuck with BR for another two years then in December we may or may not have a few more reps in the Texas House but we will certainly have John Cornyn as Senator, and Texas having gone for McCain despite Bob Barr getting 20% of the popular vote in the state. It will be another year just like 2006, when the blue wave swept the nation but hit the red seawall at the Texas border.
Maybe Sherrie Matula gets elected (I really, really hope so) but then again maybe not, due as much to the neglect of the state party in assisting in her race as anything else. One thing you can count on: BR will take credit for it if she wins, and won't ever mention it publicly if she doesn't.
Am glad he helped some with that fundraiser in Austin for her. That was a good thing he did ...
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