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Wed Nov-03-04 12:39 PM
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I just don't believe any of it. |
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I don't believe hackable, non-auditable, vote counts. Just don't believe it.
I don't believe that Bush won Florida.
I don't believe that with record turn-out and increase in registered voters that the incumbent would benefit. No one gets immobilized to maintain the status quo. It's illogical.
I believe that if the challenges were not allowed to the voters in Ohio that we would be saying President-elect Kerry.
I don't believe any of Georgia's results or Kentucky's which are almost all computerized without audits.
California seemed closer than logic would permit.
I can't believe that Kerry would concede without a fight. I can't believe that a campaign with 10,000 lawyers with a fundraising campaign for a recount would just give up before the INTIAL counting has stopped.
I don't believe that Kerry will stop fighting even with a concession.
I don't believe that Bush won the popular vote.
I believe the exit polls. I believe Zogby and everyone who said Kerry would win in a landslide.
They may steal this election but they can't steal my brain's ability to reason. They can say anything they want but we don't have to believe it.
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Wed Nov-03-04 12:41 PM
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1. Exactly how I'm feeling!!! |
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They may steal this election but they can't steal my brain's ability to reason. They can say anything they want but we don't have to believe it.
Thanks for posting this.
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Wed Nov-03-04 12:41 PM
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I don't believe. I especially do not believe that Kerry conceded so quickly.
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Wed Nov-03-04 12:41 PM
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Sad that the democratic party is too corrupt to give a crap.
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Wed Nov-03-04 12:41 PM
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the term that immediately comes to mind would be "DENIAL".....
if you want to change the admin in charge you'd better start realizing that these things HAVE happened and they've happened for a reason....
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Wed Nov-03-04 12:43 PM
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5. we need to make a lot of noise |
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Wed Nov-03-04 12:43 PM
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6. Hey.. maybe this is all a dream |
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Maybe it's a dream. Or maybe at 1PM ET, instead of conceding, Kerry is going to say, "I was going to concede..but my lawyers found good evidence to fight this vote count."
Ah hell..just wishful thinking.
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Wed Nov-03-04 12:44 PM
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7. Yep I awoke to a nightmare |
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It does defy logic. Some are cynical and say this is America, this is America all along. If they are right, we really need to leave. I cannot live in a land of lies. It drives me insane.
As I said to my husband,Bush lies about the weather(falling of his bike) lies about the bulge (a bad tailor?) and they lie about everything from 9/11 on up. Iraq. Everything. LIES LIES LIES. I no longer believe anything the media tells me. This is the turning point.
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Wed Nov-03-04 12:44 PM
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8. 7 precints haven't reported any votes in florida |
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1.5 mil absentee voters not counted yet.
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Marnieworld
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Wed Nov-03-04 12:49 PM
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10. That's what I'm talking about |
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How in the world then is it Bush's in the state that came down to a few hundred votes before?
It doesn't make any sense.
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:01 PM
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It does when you remember that Florida is split in half by two time zones..last election, Florida was called too early for Gore, and half the state went home...remember, the panhandle is devoutly Republican..this time, they got to vote, and the true numbers for Florida came in....this was predicted, though not by the large numbers as evidenced last night....
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:34 PM
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27. Nobody in the panhandle went home in 2000 |
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They called it for Gore before the polling places closed in the panhandle but it didn't influence votes. It's yet another myth perpetuated in order to make us all complacent about a stolen election. It's illogical to think that at 7:30 to 7:45pm people decided not to vote. If they were intending to vote they would be at the polling places already and not watching TV. If they were watching TV then they wouldn't be voting.
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Wed Nov-03-04 12:48 PM
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9. I don't either. I nominate your post for the front page. nt. |
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Wed Nov-03-04 12:50 PM
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Wed Nov-03-04 12:54 PM
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12. America has imploded. |
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My disbelief lies with the voting public. This should've been a landslide. Instead, this is the America that my daughter has to inherit. People know Bush's policies - and THEY'RE OKAY WITH THAT. A Kerry concession is the end to any hope for the next four + years.
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:18 PM
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19. His speech has been postponed |
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Perhaps no concession? Hmmmmmmmm...
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Wed Nov-03-04 12:55 PM
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13. I don't believe it either. |
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Blessed are the unbelievers, for they shall go down with their eyes open.
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Wed Nov-03-04 12:55 PM
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:10 PM
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18. Something is definitely not right here... |
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I swear to God, they've fixed this one like the did the last one.
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Wed Nov-03-04 12:59 PM
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15. I posted something very similar last night . . . |
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before I finally crashed at about 6:00 am . . . I don't believe any of it either . . . the whole thing just defies logic, common sense, history, anecdotal evidence, everything . . . we've been hosed but good . . . and I, for one, have no idea what to do next . . .
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:07 PM
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17. Neither do I . I feel like I have woken up in a parallel universe |
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where everything is upside down. Have I died and gone to hell?
I am just incredulous and shocked with disbelief. I am literally sick to my stomach.
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:24 PM
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22. Malkovich Malkovich Malkovich Malkovich |
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MalkovichMalkovichMalkovichMalkovichMalkovichMalkovichMalkovich
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:25 PM
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23. Have I died and gone to hell? |
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We were just asking ourselves that here! Did the stress of last night kill me? This is hell...
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:19 PM
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20. Wish I could live in MarnieWorld |
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Every time I realize it's true, I just get more upset.
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:26 PM
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25. You are more than welcome here |
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Everyone here is already a citizen of Marnieworld.
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:19 PM
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:26 PM
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24. Thank you. That is exactly how I feel and I'm trying desperately |
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not to feel like a conspiracy theorist.
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:35 PM
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28. I am loyal DemLib, but this site is like porn... |
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This site is becoming nothing but intellectual pornography. How can we, the best and the brightest, wail away at what “is”, as if our childish wants will change reality.
Why don’t we 1. Admit defeat, 2. dust ourselves off, have a coffee, make love to our partners…and go out and have a great day…all the while whistling to the world that NEXT time we will do better. We must exude confidence, not dismay.
To do otherwise it to continue our destructive “group think”, entertaining any dismal thought that comes along like a teenage boy thrusting for porn.
Life is good…lets live it, and win
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:36 PM
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Marnieworld
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:56 PM
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I shouldn't care about a very conceivable , SECOND coup d'etat in the country that is supposed to be the most free in the world? I should just go make some cookies, look at the sunset and play with puppies? I don't think so.
Freedom can be bloody. Freedom can be an impossible fight. Freedom cannot be won with complacency, ignorance, and apathy. Freedom is won by people who do not get over injustice. Live free or die.
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:48 PM
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Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 01:50 PM by Marnieworld
That's what this election is based on. Openly hackable, easily programmable computers. Children and grandmas use access. It's absurd.
I don't believe the numbers. If the numbers are not a reflection of actual voter intent then everything you wrote is incorrect.
I'm using logic and reason. You are being hostile and partisan oh and now your post is gone. Well good riddance.
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:36 PM
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29. What happened to the youth vote? |
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All the exit polls showed no increase in numbers for the supposed huge turnout of the youth vote. Where did they go? Why wasn't the vote "Rocked"? Were they all too busy playing playstation?
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:48 PM
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32. At this moment Rep Tom Reynolds (R-NY) is holding forth |
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on C-Span, chortling, and saying all he sees is a "green light in America" -- the most Republicans elected since 1936, free to do whatever they will.
No way this wasn't vile theft! And we thought, all night, that at least Kerry would expose it!
Kerry arriving any moment.
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Wed Nov-03-04 01:51 PM
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33. i totally agree. something just doesn't smell right. |
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