The Chronicler
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:06 AM
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Edwards likley to be named DNC chair. |
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Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 11:06 AM by The Chronicler
via CNN. They want to keep him in politics so as to allow him to remain relevent in 2008. I'm not sure I even want him as our guy in '08, but he's lightyears ahead of Hillary. Give me Byron Dorgan, Leonard Boswell, or Mark Warner. We might lose but at least it will turn some heads and maybe move the electorate towards us in certain areas.
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:07 AM
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1. who decides who is chairman of the dnc? |
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I want dean, but i don't know who to contact to make that happen
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:11 AM
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Dean is much more useful & appealing in 08 as an "outsider" activist
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:14 AM
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6. I disagree - I think Edwards makes the case better than Dean does. |
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A party chair can't just be an "outsider activist", he has to be able to get the traditionalists and the activists working together - Dean can't do that.
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:15 AM
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7. Yes, Dean could do it. But this is a moot point. I still say K/E |
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:47 AM
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18. .. i'm thinking like you |
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:52 AM
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19. Welcome, cheers, and keep the faith! |
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:44 AM
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15. I see you don't know much about Dean |
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Dean was a Governor for 11 years. He was chair of the Dem Govs. He's hardly an outsider activist. He knows far more about the machinations of party politics than Edwards, and he's a far more compelling figure. He has a proven track record in raising money and bringing people into the party. Edwards is someone who couldn't even be re-elected in his own state. I, for one, resent his being given this "gift". The dem party is pushing me out.
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Fri Nov-05-04 03:12 PM
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33. Good point. I love Dean and voted for him in the primaries, but he |
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has been painted as a foaming-at-the-mouth liberal by the conservative media (CNN, MSGOP, NBC, FOX).
I do want him to keep speaking up.. I do want Al Sharpton to keep smackin' that donkey, but our rep. has to present a more "traditional" face for the small minded american voters who believe EVERYTHING they hear from Rush and see on FAUX news.
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:38 AM
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13. Dean is an activist. He doesn't have to be an outsider to succeed. |
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In fact, I think he'd be more successful as the DNC chair. People listened to him because of his message, not his outsider status. If people saw that the Democratic Party was trying to officially take the party that direction, I think a lot more of them would become involved.
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:56 AM
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20. Wouldn't he be forced (more or less)to tone down as DNC chair? |
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I don't begrudge Dean anything and I am not saying Edwards is a better pick, but JMO... it seems like once these people have to take on the *attached to the DNC* label it kind of tones them down or something. I always thought Dean's hook was that he wasn't the typical politician (even if he was an insider to anyone not that familiar with him...he didn't seem like one)
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Fri Nov-05-04 12:12 PM
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22. I don't think he'd take the job if they did that. |
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I also don't thing they'd put him there if they weren't going to let him run things his way.
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Fri Nov-05-04 12:14 PM
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23. ummm, we toned down with kerry and edwards and |
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look how that turned up. at least dean has fire and conviction. I do not think he would have abandoned ship in less than 24 hours.
Dean has a substantial record and had detailed plans for many areas, something kerry never had (based on reading content of position papers on their web sites...dean was very specific, kerry very vague).
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Fri Nov-05-04 12:53 PM
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25. You're taking me wrong |
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That was my point I don't think he would be as effective "toned down" which is why I doubt he'd even want the job.
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:13 AM
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The ultimate authority to select the chairman are the fifty state party chairs. They usually follow the desires of the "titular" head of the party unless the titular head has "damaged" himself in the recent election. I would guess that Clinton, Kerry, and Gore might have some input, but none are in a position to dictate to the various state party chairs with the same authority as, say, a sitting president.
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:18 AM
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10. Check this website out |
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:11 AM
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Oh, please God, let this be true. Edwards can appeal to religious rural folk without bashing gays. He's perfect.
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:13 AM
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5. yeah he did an *outstanding* job at that this time around |
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:16 AM
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8. yes, he did. Kerry was the liability, not Edwards |
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and if he'd listened to Edwards, we'd still be counting the votes.
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:47 AM
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"Edwards can appeal to religious rural folk without bashing gays."
He failed to do that this year in his home state. Will this be something new?
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:17 AM
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9. I can live with him, but he will only use this position the same way |
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he used the seat in the Senate, to run for president and advance himself.
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:22 AM
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Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 11:27 AM by whirlygigspin
he did so well helping with the southern vote.
Maybe next time his own state will vote for him, too.
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:23 AM
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12. What are the duties of a head of the DNC? |
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I think a really big duty is the task of raising money.
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:38 AM
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14. You're right. They raise money and that's about it. |
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Since Edwards' big money constituency consists of trial lawyers, whom the Repukes will be rendering far less affluent within the next year, this is idiotic. Edwards is a great lawyer and a tremendously appealing politician. Putting him up as the guy who brings in the bucks is a typical DNC/DLC ploy --- useless. It also sets him up to lose both the nomination in '08 and the general election should he fail to lose to Hilary. Can you imagine what the Repukes could do to portray him as the immoral Dems main money grubber?
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Fri Nov-05-04 11:47 AM
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16. I doubt Dean would even want that job |
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Someone else here said something about him being an activist vs a spokesperson for fundraising and I agree.
He can do more from outside the constrictions of the DNC IMO
I don't think Edwards is a bad pick.
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Fri Nov-05-04 12:04 PM
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21. He may be a good person to help reshape this "values" debate toward |
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the values Dems have but that don't seem to be reaching a lot of people. The whole two Americas meme has to do the values Dems find so important.
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Fri Nov-05-04 12:37 PM
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24. Perfect. Dead meat for a dead party. |
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Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 12:41 PM by robbedvoter
The guy who co-sponsored IWR and got praise for ONE SPEECH is the perfect figurehead for the party that ignores voter fraud, can't really oppose a war and tries to snooker people that it's on their side. Way to celebrate ineffectiveness! I am all for it - but then again, I left the party when this patsy was put on the ticket.
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Fri Nov-05-04 12:58 PM
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No one will ever be able to convince me that SOMW has any place within our party leadership anymore. Beyond what Robbedvoters said their is the Patriot Act and the fact that he did not even try to defend his Senate seat or effectively help Bowles. In my opinion he should be purged along with TMac.
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Fri Nov-05-04 01:01 PM
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27. He needs to become governor somewhere |
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He needs executive office experience. That will make him viable as a presidential candidate.
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Fri Nov-05-04 01:39 PM
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28. Oh, Christ on a cross |
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Is there no end to this idiocy?
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Fri Nov-05-04 01:52 PM
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Now I KNOW this is a skull and bones conspiracy. If they are talking this way, then they have given up our fight and they are going to install Edwards to keep up the sham of a two-party system.
Edwards was a guest at the Illuminati's annual gathering this year. I tried to blow it off at the time because I thought he was "our guy". He is ONE of THEM.
We don't have a democracy anymore. If we DID, DEAN would be DNC chair.
Our ONLY hope is to start another party. Right now, the only ones I trust in the "progressive" political arena are Dean, Kucinich and Cobb.
Meanwhile, we need to fix this voting system. At least prove that the machines were rigged. What good does forming parties, running candidates and GOTV do if the machines are rigged???
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Fri Nov-05-04 02:56 PM
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30. Dean is too liberal and his personality is too erratic |
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Edwards is far better choice
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Fri Nov-05-04 03:06 PM
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31. Edwards needs to do SOMETHING |
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I don't know about DNC chair, but Edwards needs to do something to stay active (while perhaps beefing up his foreign relations experience etc).
Honestly, at this point...and I'm sure I'll hear about it!
I'm thinking an Edwards-McCain ticket would blow anything the Repubs could come up with out of the water!
If you question Edwards' abilities...read up on the primaries some.
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Fri Nov-05-04 03:08 PM
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32. He's a good lookin' guy and that's what people want to see. |
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americans want short sound-bites delivered by good looking people who sound like they believe what they're talking about.
i think edwards will be an excellent mouthpiece for us in the media for the next 4 years.
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Fri Nov-05-04 03:28 PM
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34. It's a good choice. He makes a good cheerleader. nt |
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