Does Kerry Want Us To Fight For Him?

[Dinger]

Does he want us"to go away"?
Well, I guess if he wins (he did), we'll practically have to force him into office! (Whether he wants to or not).

[benburch]

1. One clear statement one way or the other would be appreciated!

Come on Senator Kerry! Let us know what YOU want us to do.

[NVMojo]

2. at this point what matters more is can we have a democratic eleciton?

we've got to get to the bottom of that for ourselves, if he wins in the process ....cheers!

[ClassWarrior]

3. Bingo. This is about making sure we have fair voting.

A Kerry Presidency would be a bonus.

NGU.

[GreenPartyVoter]

11. Exactly! So get your local Kerry campaign groups back together

and do everything you can to make certain your towns, counties, and states all have verifiable voting systems. Beyond that, you may want to see what you can do about publicly financed campaigns and ranked voting.

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[johnnie]

4. My personal feeling is

Right now I am more inclined to think that we are fighting for democracy. If we can prove that the votes were messed with and then get the word out to the masses, we can show that our democracy is in danger and we have to fight to keep that from not happening.

[JD Lau]

5. I agree.

We are fighting for democracy. We are fighting to remain relevant. And we are fighting for this for not only ourselves, but for those around the world who look to us for leadership.

[Ninga]

6. I Agree Totally!!

[Dinger]

12. Exactly

As someone said in this thread, "If Kerry wins, it's a bonus."
Maybe we should let the pugs know we can do it to them.
It isn't like they have a corner on technology. We are the smarter party after all!

[jmatthan]

7. I think this is irrelevant

Kerry may have been the candidate of the Democratic Party.

Actually he was the candidate, not for the Democratic Party but the ABB party.

All those anti-war activists who were behind Dennis Kucinch and Howard Dean - as the might of George Soros, Move-On, were all anti-Bush, rather than pro-Kerry.

The Democrats and also previous Naderites stood behind Kerry, not as Kerryites but as the ABB block.

So Johm Kerry is irrelevant as far as this fight for democracy in the US is concerned as also democracy of the free world.

Jacob Matthan
Oulu, Finland

[emulatorloo]

8. What matters to me is that I can have faith that our votes will be counted

My guess is that Kerry/Edwards looked at the numbers and don't see a reversal in the outcome no matter what.

So be it.

But I want to know for sure that our votes will be counted. And if there was fraud IT MUST BE EXPOSED.

[seimmud]

9. I cant believe the country is filled 51% morons...

So there has to be cheating

[BayStateBoy]

10. Kerry Should Demand a Recount

I think Kerry is a fool not to request recounts in OH and particularly FL irrespective of whether his so called advisors think the votes are there. What there is out there is probably fraud and lots of it, and for him to ignore it is unconscionable.

1. Kerry promised that all the votes would be counted. 55 million Americans subscribed to that. He needs to fulfill his promise. I'm hearing nothing but severe criticisms of him here in Mass by people who voted for him. They won't forget or forgive. Kerry is really a Flip Flopper.

2. There is a fine line between a quitter and a troublemaker. Kerry may not want to "make waves" thinking about 2008. But as far as I'm concerned, if he doesn't want to investigate these reports of possible fraud, then he's political roadkill. The soul of Democracy is the truth, and Kerry has to honor that before his own personal political agenda.

3. If we don't investigate, there is little if any hope that we will be able to mount a turnout like we just did. People stood in line for 10 hours to vote and we are willing to let their votes be thrown in the trash. Next time we need those voters they will stay home, so we are slitting out own political throats by not getting recounts.

4. If we don't demand recounts, the perpetrators will take it as an open invitation to commit the same frauds in 2006 and 2008. Kerry and the DNC are delusional. By not acting and fighting we are guaranteeing that all the setups will be in place for our future defeats and it will be a no win situation. We have to take a stand and fight now or else...

5. Elaborating on #4, recounts would serve to focus the national spotlight on the evils and unreliability of electronic voting. The measures in Congress to mandate a paper trail have been languishing for over 18 months. We have a small window of opportunity to act; if we don't we'll never get the electronic genie back into the bottle.

6. The history of voting in America is the history of vote recounts and rigged elections. Besides it's our Christian duty to recount the votes to insure that no crimes have been committed and the will of the people is being expressed accurately. The worst the Repugs could do is accuse us of being sore losers and we could take that charge and ram it back down their throats.

7. Even if the votes are recounted and the final results don't change we won't be hurt for trying. There is no evidence that fighting in FL in 2000 cost us any votes and it won't now. We have more votes to lose by not fighting and everything from a strategic political aspect.

[Rangerfan1994]

13. (A question, since I can't start one myself)

Can Kerry ask for a recount in Ohio,or any state with out first
unconceding?