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read the law first Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:30 PM
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AP reports that "audit" is completed in FL 13
AP reports at 3:00 today that "audit" was completed by the Florida audit team and no irregularities were found. hhhmmmm. Did we agree that the audit team was good or bad? I can't remember. :eyes:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/02/23/national/a150810S18.DTL

Ready?

Begin.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:48 PM
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1. Who is 'we' sweetie?
Jennings spokesman David Kochman said in a statement the audit was flawed.

"Its unfortunate that the states election officials were more concerned about sweeping the problem under the rug than finding out the truth about what went wrong with Sarasota County's voting system."
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read the law first Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:54 PM
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2. the keepers of the flame of the ER forum
the folks who have followed this day and night since November.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:05 PM
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3. my apology..
I mis-read, or read too much, in your post. Lesson learned...investigation prior to condemnation. Mea culpa
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read the law first Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:17 PM
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4. no worries
:toast:

I just can't remember where we finally ended up on the composition of the "auditors." I remembered that we went back and forth for a day or two but I was too lazy to go back and find the posts. I was hoping somebody remembered off hand whether the general consensus was good or bad so I would know whether to be pissed or not.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:25 PM
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5. be pissed - n/t
n/t
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read the law first Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:31 PM
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6. that was my initial inclination. n/t
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 09:54 AM
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12. on the personal politics, there is this from Avi Rubin
http://avi-rubin.blogspot.com/2006/11/krugman-way-off-base-on-alec-yasinsac.html (from late November)

The Security and Assurance in Information Technology Laboratory (SAIT) at Florida State is the best security research group in the state of Florida if not the Southeast. I'm quite familiar with their research. The professors there include Breno de Medeiros, a recent Ph.D. alumnus of our program at Johns Hopkins, Mike Bermester, a famous Cryptographer, and of course Alec Yasinsac. I have known Alec for about 12 years. He is an extremely talented researcher and well respected security expert. The state of Florida contacted SAIT because they are the top computer security research group in the state....

Hearing a high profile columnist such as Krugman refer to my friend Alec Yasinsac as a partisan hack really stings, and it causes me to now question every time I see someone painted with such a brush in the media. Furthermore, Krugman writes his pieces as though Alec would be performing the audit alone. What a difference it makes to actually know the people involved very well. Krugman would have done well to interview some computer scientists about Alec and SAIT before dismissing this audit out of hand.

Read the whole thing, and then read the whole report. Like the part where they say that the source code is flawed because it assumes that PEB data can be trusted, and it would need to be extensively rewritten to fix this architectural flaw.

I will certainly defer to Avi Rubin on this one. Academics tend to be pretty intense about respecting people who do good work, and disrespecting people who don't, without regard to politics. There are some limitations in the audit that need to be talked up (and I assume that people who know more about computer security than I do will spot more), but don't shoot the messengers.
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read the law first Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:35 PM
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7. here's the "report"
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read the law first Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:38 PM
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8. and here's the FSU SAIT lab report
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read the law first Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:50 PM
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9. they don't believe there were 18K intentional undervotes
that's very interesting. but the rest of it is depressing me.:(
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:00 AM
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10. BradBlog:
Conflicting Conclusions Revealed Despite State Claim of 'No Evidence to Suggest Official Results in Error'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2743415

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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 03:53 AM
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11. Jennings is not happy about it.
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