Carolab
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Tue Nov-30-04 12:56 AM
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Punch card ballots in Ohio: are they numbered? |
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I'm wondering how easily, with all the time that has passed, the ballots can be doctored. Are they secured? Who is watching over them? Why is there a delay between Dec. 1 when the counties finish their audits and Dec. 6 when Sister Blackwell certifies? What did Blackwell mean when he said there was a "tedious audit" after the counties certified? Does this mean they get to go over the results for discrepancies and "fix" them? Anyone have any information at this detailed level?
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Must_B_Free
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Tue Nov-30-04 01:10 AM
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I recall one place had a crazy number of spoiled ballots. All had THREE votes for president, NONE had two votes for president.
Clearly these were extra punched to disqualify them.
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Tue Nov-30-04 01:50 AM
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2. Also...........................Help me figure this out |
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I know this is probably a stupid line of questions but I have not seen them asked.
Ok!
There is a difference ballot for every county right? There probably are multiple ballots for the counties that fall over 2 or more congressional districts. Dallas County (in Texas) I think had up to 4 different ballots based on where the voter lived.
Is there any way to get a sample ballot from each county/CD in Ohio?
Every punch card is the same (shape, size, number of chads) regardless of the county or ballot in Ohio.
I assume that a punch card is similar to Chess or a Battleship game board in that
A-1 could be a vote for B/C, A-2 could be a vote for K/E .... A-5 could be a vote for Cobb
With me so far??
What would stop the ballot counting machine to be screwed with so that it doesn't jibe with the ballot?
What if the punches that were supposed to count for Kerry were switch to votes for Bush?
A manual hand count would only work if you had a copy of the ballot that was actually in the precincts back on Nov 2. If a new ballot has been printed to correspond with the desired results then a recount would prove nothing.
Just a theory. Been thinking about this all day. Does it hold water? My feelings will not be hurt if my theory doesn't work
Thanks!!
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Tue Nov-30-04 02:15 AM
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Because I don't have enough posts to make my own topic :-)
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Tue Nov-30-04 01:04 PM
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I just want to know if this is plausible
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Tue Nov-30-04 01:28 PM
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how many do you need to make your own anyway?
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Tue Nov-30-04 01:37 PM
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Tue Nov-30-04 01:42 PM
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7. I would like to see a forensic analysis of punchcard ballots supplied |
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to dem vs. GOP precincts. All punchcard ballots in Ohio were supplied by Dayton Legal Blank. There may have beed undetectable to the naked eye differences in ballots.
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Tue Nov-30-04 01:49 PM
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There were just too many undervotes in the "blue" areas of Cuyahoga County. After Florida in 2000, everyone and their Mama knows that you have to remove to chad from the card for your vote to count.
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Tue Nov-30-04 02:42 PM
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9. off register die cutting or different btaches of paper with different |
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compositions. What would it take for a citizen to investigate this possibility?
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