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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:00 PM Original message |
Poll question: Do you believe Jesus really rose from the dead? |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. Isn't that the whole point of Christianity? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Me too. |
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Tux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. From what I know of Christianity |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Yeah, but it would be pretty dumb to worship him though. |
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Tux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 12:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
34. So is Buddha |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 01:26 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. My understanding is that people don't worship Buddha though. |
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Dervill Crow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
94. By that criteria I could be a Christian. |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 07:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
42. No |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-05 04:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
114. I'm with you on this |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 09:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
45. I voted no and I consider myself a "christian". But then again, I know |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 10:40 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. That is the most sensible take on Christianity, in my opinion. |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 11:17 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Well said BurtWorm. I once wrote a thread on my belief that Jesus's |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 11:32 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Jesus was highjacked by Europe. |
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benny05 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 08:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
111. I've been wondering...and perhaps this has been posited be4 |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. "...If Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile..." |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I think it's in the creed. |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Sorry, I went and edited everything on you. |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 01:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
40. Spong and the Gnostics are wrong |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 11:19 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Stunster, if you want to believe the whole story of Jesus is real |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 04:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Both of the books I recommended |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 07:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Excuse me. |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 08:31 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. " it is the only source of a certain event" |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 08:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. How do you know that? |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 09:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. That's what scholarship is for |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 09:22 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Scholars disagree. |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 09:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Scholars do disagree |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 09:29 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. When did I doubt that? |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 10:16 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I never claimed it was all accurate |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 10:25 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Oh, so you have refuted all opposing articles yourself too? |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 10:39 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. In school |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 10:46 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. There's never enough time. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 10:59 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Again, no answer. |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 11:09 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Obfuscation? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 11:10 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. If you truly understood the subject material yourself, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 11:16 PM Response to Reply #73 |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. And one more book... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 07:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Deleted message |
aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 07:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
43. Raising |
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Tace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
6. This Is A Thankless Task... But Jesus Was A Mushroom |
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VPStoltz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. The Sacred Mushroom |
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Tace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 12:32 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. The Catholic Ritual Is Exquisite |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 01:34 AM Response to Reply #6 |
38. This may make you change your mind |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
7. Whoever voted "No, I'm a Christian" please explain. n/t |
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Tace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Hi, See Post Above |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Doesn't really explain much. |
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Tace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. I Was Raised As A Presbyterian... Then Attended A Quaker High School |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Jesus claimed he'd rise after three days. (Mark 8:31) |
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Tace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Hey, Not A Problem... This Issue Is As Absurd As It Gets |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Thanks for replying. |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 03:13 AM Response to Reply #25 |
41. It just isn't physically possible for a dead body to re-animate |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 09:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
62. I disagree |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:29 AM Response to Reply #62 |
77. Show me someone who got up and walked after 2 day's being dead |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:51 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. If your argument is |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:09 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Your'e claiming a man died |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:23 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. No, I'm not calling you illogical |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:38 AM Response to Reply #82 |
85. I know dead people can not get up and walk around |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:45 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. No, not just because of that |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:00 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Those are hallucinations and aren't that uncommon |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 10:57 AM Response to Reply #87 |
91. More logical invalidity |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:05 PM Response to Reply #62 |
93. You're apparently a big fan of N.T. Wright, Stunster. |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:28 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. I think Wright intellectually demolishes those folks (n/t) |
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RoeBear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 11:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
106. It wouldn't be a miracle if |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Then there's a problem |
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Tace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 12:00 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Jeez... I Don't Know Anything About Mushroom Cultivation |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 12:20 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. You're positive there exists a problem? |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 12:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. "Good Friday" was a mistake. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
11. No |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. What particularly sounds tall tale-ish? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Everybody getting miraculously healed, |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. He was still hoping to convert the Jews though! |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. More power to you, tjdee |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 01:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
39. On second thought, read Mark! |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 12:41 AM Response to Reply #17 |
33. Say WHAT? |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 01:18 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Eh, okay, maybe Mark, LOL. |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 12:51 AM Response to Reply #33 |
107. The slaughter of the innocents |
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TwentyFive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
13. I really don't think it's important. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. A lot of Christians would say "faithful" not "gullible." |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Historically speaking |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 01:32 AM Response to Reply #13 |
37. Two book recommendations |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:34 AM Response to Reply #37 |
89. You are killing me! There's absolutely no historical records at all, |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 06:34 PM Response to Reply #89 |
101. If I'm killing you, how come you're not dead yet? |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 07:02 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Hey. Don't misunderstand me. I am NOT an athiest. And I did not say |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 08:04 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Not so |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 09:21 PM Response to Reply #89 |
104. Well, if you can show me the court records of anyone who came |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 11:05 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. I'm not using any historical records. You are agreeing with me that they |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
15. The physical resurrection of the body of Christ from the dead |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
16. Frankly, I think it's even stranger for non-Christians to believe he rose |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 11:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Yeah, who's that? |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 08:01 AM Response to Reply #16 |
44. From what I hear |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 11:38 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. from what I gather "resurrection" was also |
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Modem Butterfly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
51. Jesus is an amalgam |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 04:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. No, he *did* exist. He just wasn't "divine". That's PURE propaganda |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
53. Dead People Do Not Re-Animate |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
55. It's PURE distortion by the Church of Rome |
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FM Arouet666 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
67. The question presupposes that Jesus was an historical figure. |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:42 AM Response to Reply #67 |
78. I believe there was a man named Jesus |
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FM Arouet666 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:35 AM Response to Reply #78 |
84. I would agree with you on this point |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #67 |
95. The question doesn't presuppose a historical Jesus. |
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Amfortas (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
74. nah! |
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Is It Fascism Yet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
76. No, I don't believe he rose from the dead, but I do believe he is |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:15 AM Response to Reply #76 |
81. Good point. |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:33 AM Response to Original message |
83. Did the resurrection of Jesus take place via a wormhole? |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:08 AM Response to Reply #83 |
88. I seriously doubt it. |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 11:30 AM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Oh well, then, |
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Thtwudbeme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:59 AM Response to Original message |
90. Burtworm and Stunster |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. I have read his most famous book |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 04:16 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. The Hero with 1,000 Faces! |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 12:30 PM Response to Reply #98 |
109. Have you crossed swords before? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
99. No. |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 06:16 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. The Waterman Spouts! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
108. Whoever voted "Yes, I am not a Christian" please explain |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 12:40 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. Either that vote was a joke, or the voter believes that everyone |
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davidthegnome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-05 02:49 AM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Yes, I believe Jesus rose from the dead. |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-05 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
113. I think so. I'm a Christian. n/t |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-05 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
115. If Jesus was divine, then why not? |
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