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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-08 08:35 PM Original message |
Need some help on Christianity and homosexuality |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-08 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. Here is some info from Wikipedia. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. That statement would not be true |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Well then those sects are basically saying God is not all powerful. |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Not necessarily. |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Well the Bible says for all Sins. |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Not always. |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. The Bible does not say Bugs only have 4 legs. |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Firstly, saying not to eat bugs with four legs |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Jews viewed the front 4 legs on grasshopers and locusts as feet for walking |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Fine. |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 03:07 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. The stoning of your son law was extremely progressive for it's time and |
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moggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. How is killing people "progressive by today's standards"? |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. You have to understand the purpose of the law. |
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uberllama42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 08:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Stoning your son for defaming you is progressive? |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Read Galatians Chapter 4 & 5 |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. It's funny how the most bible-centric Christians never seem to have read the thing. |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. A Jewish parent could not kill his Son. |
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moggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Is this the passage you're referring to? |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Not just witness but actually perform the execution. |
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moggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #40 |
58. Again, I refer you to human nature |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I wish I could say Jews were always so enlightened (even from ancient times) |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
47. Ooooh, that's so much more civilized and progressive! |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Yawn... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Out of ammo so soon? |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Theology debates with you are pointless |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. You are correct. |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. "facts"? So that is what they call opinions these days, intriguing... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I'm sorry that you are no longer able to participate in the discussion |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Yawn... |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. Hold on. |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Those laws are timeless, it prohibited the people from killing their children. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. No, it did not prohibit, it placed a few, very loose rules on child killing. |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Can you show were this practice has been used in Judiasm? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Bait and switch much? This debate is about the bible. |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. This is a debate about a law that was put in place to prevent something. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. a debate about a law - No, the bible is not a law, it is a religious book. |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. It's a religious book with Gods law for his people. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. if you have something that shows otherwise I would love to read it. |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Somehow I don't think that's the reason why parents don't routinely kill their children. |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. It's impossible to have a law that states "Don't Kill your Children" |
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uberllama42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Where does it say that the elders decide? |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Here is the King Jimmy Text. |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. Alright, fuck this. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
25. Where does it say that? |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. 1 Corinthians 15:3 and Romans 5:8. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I understand there are translation differences, |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the one sin that is unforgiven. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-08 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. That's a pretty big question, actually. |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-08 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
5. There is nothing that is, ipso facto, easy to read about homosexuality and Christianity |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-08 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. Are you saying she thought that's what you thought |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 05:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. the second one |
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moggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 06:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. That is fucked up |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 07:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. It is sad. I know where she is at which is all the more painful |
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moggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 07:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. "The God Delusion" is very readable |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Teen? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-08 07:29 AM Response to Reply #28 |
57. I gave her literature from PFLAG which was more readable than |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Hmm. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
21. I don't know of a source, but I can refer you to the doctrine |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I thought it was addressed in the NT |
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