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TheHeathen Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:41 PM
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Christian challenges atheist bus advert
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/opinion-former-index/legal-and-constitutional/christian-challenges-atheist-bus-advert-$1259459.htm

A leading Christian activist has made a formal complaint about the atheist bus adverts which were launched nationwide this week.

The 800 buses launched for the campaign feature the slogan: "There is probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life."

Now Stephen Green of Christian Voice, who formally hit the front pages by launching a legal challenge against Jerry Springer the Opera on the BBC, has complained to the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) and is calling for the adverts to be withdrawn.

Mr Green has challenged the adverts on grounds of "truthfulness" and "substantiation", suggesting that there is not "a shred of supporting evidence" that there is probably no God.

:rofl:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:43 PM
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1. MY IRONY METER!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:44 PM
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4. Bah.
:P
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:44 PM
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2. Irony alert. A religious person caring about evidence.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:44 PM
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3. This is why I detest 95% of all Christians.
People who need the promise of a reward or fear of punishment to be DECENT FUCKING HUMAN BEINGS are NOT decent fucking human beings.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:52 PM
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6. They're children not functionally mature ethical agents.
This is what the great developmental psychologist Jean Piaget would say.

Als, they are the norm.

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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:56 PM
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8. You're assuming that being a ...
DECENT FUCKING HUMAN BEING is their goal. They just want to be right about something and be told what to do.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:44 PM
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5. If you're looking for evidence to support your faith, then you are faithless.
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 09:46 PM by baldguy
Faithlessness is a mortal sin.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:55 PM
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7. Would Fundamentalists have Faith if there were no Bible? nt
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:09 PM
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9. You can tell the secret doubters
They're the ones who get their panties in a major wad over a simple, "I don't believe."

Now if the banners had said, "There is and never has been any god at all and you're all suckers for believing such utter codswallop!" he might have had a point.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:41 PM
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13. The secret doubters are the ones who demand the most validation.
The true believers just nod their heads and smile and pray for you.

Then, of course, there are the elite authoritarians who know it's a bunch of codswallop and are pissed because we know it too. They are itching to impose a state church on everyone so as to forcibly shut us up.
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Libertyfirst Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:15 PM
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10. Hungry and abused children is all the evidence I need. n/t
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:26 PM
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11. Unbuhleevable!
Truth in advertising? That's rich! How 'bout freedom of speech? Oh, and the idea that any "faith" that can't stand up to a little sacrutiny was never much to begin with? :eyes:
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 08:20 AM
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15. Note the word "probably" in the advert
There's a long-standing UK advertising campaign which claims that a particular beer is "probably the best lager in the world". This was ruled to be acceptable, by the body which adjudicates complaints about adverts: it's false IMO (the lager in question is piss), but the "probably" supposedly changes it from an objective claim to a subjective one, which makes it ok. I don't agreee with that ruling - you could ask a large random sample of lager drinkers, and if less than 50% agreed with the claim, bang goes your "probably" - but it's the standard which has been applied, and which presumably will be applied in this case also.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:29 PM
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12. Oh my.
:rofl:
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 06:58 AM
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14. Christian Voice (UK) = Stephen Green
I don't recall seeing a press release from Christian Voice (the UK organisation has no link to the US organisation of the same name, I think) by anyone other than Stephen Green, and even Green doesn't claim large membership for the organisation: he's put it at "more than 600", which is hardly impressive for a national organisation. So, CV is basically one nutjob, a fax machine, and a small email list.
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