Jamastiene
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:10 PM
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Is marijuana found in the wild? |
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Other than people planting it there, is it found in the wild, in the forests, anywhere in the world growing wild?
If you answer yes, please tell me where. If you answer no, consider this:
Here in the U.S., there is this thing called the Endangered Species Act. It's an angle anyhow. If Bush can steal an election with laws currently on the books, then why not get marijuana declared an endangered species of plant in the wild and work around these silly prohibition laws that way?
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:10 PM
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1. Oh, I certainly HOPE so. |
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:13 PM
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2. As I recall , hemp was planted in the U.S. during World War II, for |
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Edited on Sat Aug-12-06 12:14 PM by rzemanfl
rope making. Some feral (don't know if that is the right word, but you'll know what I mean) plants still grew wild in Wisconsin in the late 1960's but you'd have to smoke the equivalent of a large cigar to get a buzz.
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:22 PM
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9. Still does and in Miinesota too |
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but your more likely to get a bad headache no matter how much you smoke; it is of rope making quality for sure.
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:51 PM
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13. So, I take it the wild version isn't the same as the |
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purposefully cultivated version?
My reason for asking goes back to my original idea. Could we get even the wild version on the endangered species list? I mean if it's truly that weak, then maybe we could sneak it on the list. After that, who knows? Maybe grandfather the nicer stronger version in on that original list entry's coat tails.
Is the idea possible?
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Sat Aug-12-06 03:41 PM
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22. Sounds like trying to get dandelions on the list. n/t |
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Fri Apr-20-07 02:12 AM
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36. It's gotta actually be endangered |
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and native to be listed. All indications are that hemp was first brought to the Americas via European exploration.
John Cabot, sailing the Atlantic seaboard not long after Columbus, reported finding a stand of hemp near modernday Newport rhode Island, which has been taken as evidence of the Norse landing in the area.
Early seafarers woould plant a stand at every landing so that it'd be available if needed in subsequent years for repairing sails.
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Sat Aug-12-06 01:26 PM
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19. Rope hemp still growing in the tree rows in Kansas |
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as well as many other places. I can't tell you how many hemp plants I used to run across looking for morels.
fwiw, a friend of mine who lives out in the country sometimes complains about those stupid city kids who see the hemp growing on her property. She says it isn't uncommon for her to catch kids stealing the plants. She tells them to take all the want because they'll get a headache from smoking it before they will get a buzz.
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Sun Dec-31-06 09:24 PM
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28. All seed drills carried a seed rate for "Hemp" for many years. |
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There are many old seed drills around with the rate on the lid. The Hemp they planted was bred for fiber and had little buzz. Still the best fiber for durable cloth,rope,and many other uses(including oil from seed). Smoke An ounce--- It will give you a headache.
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Fri Feb-16-07 09:44 PM
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31. yep--I had a John Deer-Van Brunt drill that hat had seed rates for hemp |
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Thu Aug-23-07 09:54 PM
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38. Dunno about how "wild" it is... |
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... but some US Army bases and National Parks have it growing within them.
And as you said, I don't know if it was hemp or marijuana that was growing, and what sort of "potency" it has - but it is out there.
Interesting take on the subject.
:hippie:
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:14 PM
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3. Two words in the US: ditch weed. |
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Marijuana, cultivated or ditch weed, certainly is not endangered in the state where I grew up (Oklahoma). In fact, at one time, it was the state's No. 1 cash crop: hardly endangered.
Here in Switzerland, it grows everywhere because hemp seeds are in the bird seeds we buy at the garden center; TCH content is very, very low.
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:54 PM
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14. So, I take it there are several varieties? |
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It there any way we can gather information on how many different varieties there are and find out which ones aren't growing in the wild?
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Sun Jul-13-08 08:30 PM
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41. American bird seed also contains hemp seeds. |
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I've been told canaries won't sing without their hemp seed.
The catch is, federal law requires that the seeds be sterilized before they can be blended into bird seed. Of course there's always a chance some of the hemp seed might have escaped sterilization...
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:15 PM
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4. It's definitely found in the wacky. |
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:15 PM
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5. Yes though quality sucks |
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There was lots of hemp grown throughout Nebraska, Oklahoma and I'mn sure other states during World War II. There are places that folk still find it. Not worth a plug nickel - but it's there.
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:55 PM
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15. Or could it be the key to the whole idea of |
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getting the good kind on the endangered species list?
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Fri Feb-16-07 09:49 PM
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32. The fact is that there is HUNDREDS of varieties of weed--- you got to import |
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better varieties to improve yer strain
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:16 PM
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6. They used to grow a ton of it in WV and KY - in the early '70s there was |
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a substantial and vigorous eradication program. I guarantee you it still grows some. It's a weed, literally, very hard to root out. However, as someone else noted, this is hemp grown for rope and other purposes, you'd probably bust a lung before you got a buzz.
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:59 PM
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16. Sounds like the good kind |
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isn't really found in the wild then? Am I correct? Or is the idea not taking root?
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Sat Aug-12-06 06:09 PM
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23. It can be found in the wild - if you know where to look :) |
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:17 PM
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:25 PM
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10. Good info, thanks. n/t |
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:19 PM
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8. Canoing down a river in Arkansas.. |
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We happened upon a field of wild Cannabis about a half mile from the bank. It was about 10 acres worth and didn't look like it was a commercial plot, just shitloads of happy wild Cannabis. Unfortunately it wasn't mature yet.
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:32 PM
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11. Around the farms in central KY |
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is where I picked in my youth. You'd have to smoke a lid (or whatever is the equivalent these days) to get a buzz, but it was free. It was planted for hemp, so it wouldn't be considered wild, and is apparently difficult to kill since we would find it yearly around the fence lines on horse farms. Ahhh, youth!
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Sat Aug-12-06 01:01 PM
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17. Oh wow, you had some great access there. |
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Must have been amazing. :hi:
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Sat Aug-12-06 12:39 PM
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I once went up to northern Indiana to see the pot fields. My friend said there it is... I said Where? all I see is those Christmas trees. He said thos aren't christmas trees!!!
there were signs posted around the area warning everybody about picking... "If pot is your bag, don't fill it in Jasper County" !!!
Beautiful christmas tree size pot growing free.
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Wed Jul-09-08 03:40 AM
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40. I actually live in Jasper County and My entire yard is full of marijuana |
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When I bought my property 8 years ago, it looked like a forest. I bought it off a county sheriff and it was undeveloped at the time. So I had to clear the entire acre by hand. The entire last third of the property was marijuana almost 8 feet tall. I almost sh*t my pants. Anyway, it had to go and the neighbor sat on his back porch and watched all day long while I cut it all down and burned it. I think the entire neighborhood was high.
Anyway, my entire yard has marijuana throughout it. Unless I'm not careful, it will grow tall extremely fast.
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Sat Aug-12-06 01:06 PM
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18. I've always wanted to start a campaign |
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to spread "good" seed everywhere there's a patch of dirt or a crack in pavement.
Mary Pot Seed...
It grows like weeds, you know.
We can joke all we want about this, but the sad part is there are thousands of people suffering in the US and a little toke would help them so much. Big Pharma sez no... so no it goes.
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Sat Aug-12-06 01:35 PM
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20. I'm talking about an entirely different angle to "backdoor" it |
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into legalization by using the endangered species act. I mean, it is a plant originally found in nature like many of our current endangered species. Where are the environmentalists who want to protect it? Ya know?
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Sat Aug-12-06 03:02 PM
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21. I understand your point |
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I don't think it would fly. It's a weed. It can grow under the most heinous circumstances known to plants. It grows wild all over the world.
That's why I like my idea better. There's no stopping the proliferation if aided by green-thinkers. Make it as common as the grass in your yard.
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Sat Aug-12-06 11:14 PM
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24. Maybe saving seeds from the best |
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shit you got and proliferating those would be the better idea. Hmm, I like the way you think.
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Fri Feb-23-07 11:47 PM
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35. a Utopian ideal--- no chance of getting anywhere---we all weep. |
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Tue Sep-05-06 03:11 PM
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Tastes like shit, not very potent.
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Wed Nov-08-06 05:07 PM
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26. Yes, in a few areas but it isnt potent. |
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Thu Nov-09-06 07:21 PM
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MJ has always been here. I've read reports of traces found in skeletons in the Holy Land. Plus I've spoken with persons who observed it growing wild in Pakistan.
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Fri Feb-23-07 12:57 PM
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There was once upon a time, a mummy of a paleolithic american indian in the Smithsonian. Among the artifacts that were recovered with him was a palm pipe, the typical bone needles, spear points and hemp twine, some leather items to carry the artifacts etc. There was also a corn husk bundled at the ends with twine (about the same size as a baggie). The corn husk had a 1/2" wide split that revealed the contents it was a rather dense bud which was indeed labeled "hemp". That artifact was 11,000 years old. Draw your own conclusions...
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Sat Jan-06-07 02:41 PM
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Or how about this.. a movement of people who travel the country.. or the modernized world, with trashbags full of seeds.. driving, hiking, whatever.. throwing handfuls o them around. Put them in your bird feeders, put them everywhere.. national parks, highways, city parks.
they cant burn down every city and national park in the country...can they? maybe we should wait till bush is out of office
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Mon Oct-20-08 05:32 AM
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45. I day hike in some of the State Parks here in Florida |
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I cast seeds to the wind frequently, and returning to some of the spots a year later, a few were still growing on their own.
The quality of the leaves was low (make that borderline worthless), but I am encouraged even with my meager efforts.
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I highly doubt that.. but I dont know how endangered species work.. can they list them by country? Because if not im sur ethey will argue that growers in holland more than amply hold the marijuana plant up thru the years.
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Fri Feb-23-07 11:37 PM
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34. yes,there is "naturalized" weed throughout the midwest-- very low quality |
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I am an old enough to have seen seed drills that included Hemp in its seed chart--- in the southeast
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Tue Aug-21-07 03:29 PM
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37. "wild" cannabis is generally referred to as being "landrace" |
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Edited on Tue Aug-21-07 03:31 PM by meow mix
so doing a search on landrace cannabis should yeild plenty of info.
landrace or "pure" strains evolved... contained into a specific geographic locale.
there are basically 2 versions to begin with, which spread out into many directions.
in your mountainous regions you find the most important to me,the common Indica. India,Pakistan,Afghanistan.... Indicas from here can be referred to as Kush in mj circles.
nearby up into the black sea and russia evolved Ruderalis. also known as Hemp. useful for other reasons...
in more equatorial or tropical regions evolved the Sativa. a bit trickier to deal with but very useful all the same. south-asian thai's, colombian red-gold, african malawi..ect
it should be noted that wild populations breed for survival. not to please human need. it takes selective breeding to find the "sticky recessive mutants" that we so desire
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Fri Aug-24-07 04:02 PM
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About thiry 5 years ago...:wow:
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The grand canyon region. The only way to get to Supai is by helicopter, mule, or by foot. The city is the only one that still delivers and recieves mail by mule.
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Tue Oct-14-08 12:03 AM
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43. Weed won't have much THC if it's not cultivated |
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If I recall correctly, part of the cultivation process is culling the male plants from the crop and allowing only the females to reach maturity. This is because if the females are fertilized, it ruins the crop. That means that only a well-tended field will yield good, smokable results. I could be wrong about that, though, it's been a while since I read about it, I've never done it myself, and I'm at work right now so I don't want to go delving into a bunch of websites about growing pot to check my facts.
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Tue Oct-14-08 03:31 AM
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44. You're exactly right............nt |
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