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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 09:35 AM Original message |
"Intelligent design" as explicit attack on "naturalism" in science |
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electropop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yeah, science is closed-minded in that way. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 11:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. There are all kinds of "facts" and "evidence." Mathematicians (for .. |
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OldCurmudgeon (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
25. mathematics != science |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
2. And yet, the Kansas board of ed |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 11:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Thanks. I had missed this important example, which helps .. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
3. There is no evidence of "design", in any form. nt |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 11:24 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. The problem with philosophical argument is often that .. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 12:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. You can't prove a negative. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 11:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Yes you can - sometimes. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I knew someone would pick that up. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:56 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. no punishment was intended. |
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McKenzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
4. A few simple questions for proponents of ID: |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
5. That's exactly it |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 10:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Yes, it's bogus: it's certainly possible to engage in "natural philosophy" |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. You and I are sure on the same page |
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The River (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
6. There is a scientific explanation that answers BOTH sides |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 11:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. "Science" is not synonymous with "theory-building." eom |
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The River (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. ALL scientific discovery |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 10:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I don't dispute that scientific progress depends on theorizing: |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 12:17 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Is it testable? |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 10:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Yeah, I have a question |
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The River (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 08:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. It is the short version |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 11:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. At best, what you link to could be considered philosophy. |
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The River (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 08:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Like maybe he should have |
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carl_pwccaman (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 03:20 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Wilbur, ID, Speculative Metaphysics, etc. |
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The River (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I agree with what you say |
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carl_pwccaman (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 09:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Good way to look at it. |
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carl_pwccaman (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 09:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Transrational solutions? |
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