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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:48 PM
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Just got back from Obama rally downtown
Don't know what else to say, except:

The guy rocks.

That is all.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:17 AM
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1. Awesome, Berry! I, unfortunately, haven't been in a city where he's appeared "live and in person."
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:54 AM
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2. Funny thing is, although he apparently addressed Hillary's latest grandstanding
in Cincinnati during his address in Akron, he didn't address it in Cleveland at all. I had to come home and watch the news to see her standing there (with the governor behind her nodding his head, no less) waving Obama flyers and saying "SHAME! SHAME ON YOU!" like an angry schoolmarm. (And if it's sexist to say that, I apologize, but that's what she sounded like.)

I thought "Oh boy, this isn't going to help her at all."

I come home after seeing Obama, and the positive, inspired feeling he leaves you with, and I see her on my TV screeching "Enough with the speeches and the big rallies!"

Did she ever think how that was going to play?

All that does is make me think "What do you want him to do? Crawl into a hole and die, so you'll win?"

Did she ever think how that guy who introduced her in Youngstown was going to play? The one from the machinists' union, who accused Obama supporters of all being "latte-drinking, Prius-driving, Birkenstock-wearing trust fund babies," because he apparently thought that's how you get the votes of blue-collar Ohioans? Even her supporters booed at that one!

Stereotyping the opposition, and what's worse, stereotyping the opposition's voters, just isn't going to work. And when your opponent is attracting people to rallies with a promise of a better future and inviting them to help him make it happen, coming off like a scold is not an effective way to fight him. It works just about as well as if you saw a bunch of kids running down to the tree on Christmas morning, and you stood there and said, "Oh, come on! Enough with this stuff, with the tree and the presents! Those boxes are empty! EMPTY, I tell you!"

Do you think those kids are going to stop right dead in their tracks and say "Yeah, you're right. Bag this scene. We're with you"?

This is a campaign that just exudes desperation. If she still wins Ohio, it will only be because the state Democratic machine helped her. A lot.

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 04:04 PM
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4. I can't imagine how they think any of the attacks will help them. Maybe because...
the worst negative stuff has worked in the past, Rove's crap, they think it will work. But there's an article floating somewhere around DU that indicates we may be past buying into that kind of stuff -- and I pray that's right. So it's something that's, again, from the past. And also, I have thought from the beginning that, given Hillary's negatives, negative campaigning would not work for her. Plus -- and I think there's a bit of sexism here -- I believe people look differently on negative coming from a woman.

It's not going to work for her, I'm sure of it.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:39 PM
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5. You are absolutely spot on, DMM.
"I believe people look differently on negative coming from a woman."

There are better ways to express a difference of opinion, and it would have suited her better to say "We have fundamental differences of opinion here, and I think, frankly, that you are misinterpreting my position. Let me speak for me, and you speak for you, and we'll let the voters decide."

Otherwise, when "scolded," that's when people begin using the B word. And just imagine how that would play in the general election. :eyes:
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GigiMommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 02:22 PM
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3. WOW! That's great Berry!
We were deprived that up here in the Mitten. I'm still ticked about that but good for you! I think this country REALLY needs some inspiration.
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