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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:37 AM Original message |
I have decided where I stand on the immigration issue |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
1. The problem is Americans are losing jobs to these immigrations because |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. I agree |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 10:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
200. EXACTLY, it is our OWN CITIZENS who created this sutation... |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
2. I will get flamed for this but... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. It is next to impossible to immigrate legally from Mexico anymore |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. This does not mean that we should reward them by making them |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. How are they being rewarded? |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 09:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
157. If they become "documented" after being "undocumented" |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:04 PM Response to Reply #157 |
163. So now you are comparing bank robbers to immigrants? |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 09:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
155. You won't get flamed from me. |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
3. As I stated here before |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
4. Once you supporters of exploitation get companies to provide proper wages |
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Carni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
141. AMEN! |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:58 PM Response to Reply #141 |
179. That's right... |
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AValdoux (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
5. My husband is in contruction also |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. ! |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:59 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. AValdoux, sorry but comparing humans and animals are apples and oranges nt |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. You are comparing real people to wild animals? |
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AValdoux (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
111. I have to clarify |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #111 |
123. Thanks for clarifying. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:03 PM Response to Reply #111 |
162. Your analogy is fair. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
158. You are absolutely right; and not only that, but they're not playing |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
7. I think you have thought this out and came to a very rational conclusion. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Yes, Fox has just compounded the problem |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. Wouldn't a higher minimum wage help ALL workers? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Bingo! |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 04:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
112. BINGO! |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
9. I don't have a problem with immigrants, my problem is illegals nt |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. They are all human beings |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Yes I'm liberal but this is an issue of what's legal and what isn't nt |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Do you know anyone who has tried to come here legally from Mexico? |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:46 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. Yes matter of fact I do - they not only tried but FIVE families came...... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. They aren't ALIENS |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:55 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. If they - from any country - aren't here legally they are indeed......... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:00 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Deleted message |
Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:15 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. ABSOLUTELY NOT but of course we now have to ............ |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
86. And just how rich were the FIVE immigrant families? |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
42. BRAVO!! You are going to get flamed for taking that stance, but I am with |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Hey flame away |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. So are prisoners. Do we cease to call them so |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
63. Do you get an image of a monstrous creature from outer space |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:32 PM Response to Reply #63 |
121. It's not even that for me...it's just that people use the term "alien" |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:12 AM Response to Reply #121 |
180. "Undocumented immigrant" is not really accurate.... |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:26 AM Response to Reply #180 |
196. Whatever works for you. n/t |
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Devlzown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
10. I agree with most of what you say. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Yes, the guest worker program is a temporary and ineffective solution |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
11. Embrace the immigrants and make common cause. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. I would think that most DUers would agree |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
103. Who says they want to be citizens? |
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ausus (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #11 |
201. OK, we legalize them. Then what, allow another 12 million more illegals... |
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Berserker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
12. Here is a website |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Thanks for the website |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
13. Here's an idea (don't know if it would work) for construction workers... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. The other answer is to be prepared to change jobs if you have to |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
98. What if your High School Guidance Counselor recomends "Fluffer"? n/t |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:16 AM Response to Reply #25 |
181. Good advice, but... |
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Indy_Dem_Defender (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
116. Nope won't work |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:25 AM Response to Reply #116 |
183. I agree with you, Indy Dem.... |
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Carni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 10:03 AM Response to Reply #183 |
198. Funny you should mention this |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
14. Here's where I stand on ILLEGAL immigration |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. One clue should be the glee with which the corporate news media |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:29 AM Response to Reply #23 |
185. I've also noticed.... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Sounds reasonable |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Why should it be easier for Mexicans than anyone else? Sorry. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:38 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Why should it be harder for Mexicans? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Don't twist my words. It should be equal. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. No it is harder for Mexicans than for many other countries |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Not really. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:05 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. The Mexican immigrants I know have complained for years |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:23 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. But who are they comparing themselves with? Honestly, some are looking at |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:35 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. They feel discriminated against. |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:43 PM Response to Reply #78 |
124. Discrimination is not the issue. Immigration and illegal immigration |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:38 PM Response to Reply #124 |
127. Why come? |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:13 PM Response to Reply #127 |
134. I realize that the House Bill is equal to Mexican justice for both |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:16 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. That House bill will make a felon out of me |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:02 PM Response to Reply #136 |
160. That's not true. I teach in New Mexico. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:06 PM Response to Reply #160 |
164. Read the bill |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:37 PM Response to Reply #164 |
171. I teach college writing here, |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:42 PM Response to Reply #171 |
173. In the House bill |
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Roxy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:24 AM Response to Reply #78 |
182. How can they feel discriminated against? Really? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:48 AM Response to Reply #182 |
190. Well if they read some of the responses on this thread |
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ausus (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #56 |
202. Where is the evidence for that assertion? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
24. Indeed, we have to raise minimum wage and penalize employers |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Thanks |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
30. Well said Proud2BLib |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Well thank you Maestro! |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #33 |
131. I must be out of the loop. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #131 |
135. Easter celebration at Camp Casey |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #135 |
140. Unfortunately |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:39 PM Response to Reply #140 |
144. I replied |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
34. "I am against illegals" is a code word for "I hate Mexicans" |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Good point |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
47. I disagree. The law is the law. We should not advocate breaking it. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:49 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I suppose you would support busting peoples doors down for... |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Depends on the circumstances. Smoking Weed is illegal. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Have you ever exceeded the speed limit? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. So we shouldn't have laws because everyone has broken one? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:54 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. No, arresting and deporting 12 MILLION PEOPLE is what is silly |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. And I didn't say that either. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:07 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. No one is asking for preferential treatment |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. That is preferential treatment. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
36. Said safely from Kansas..... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. We deal with it every day here too |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #36 |
57. What are you "dealing" with, exactly? I've lived in CA |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #57 |
80. Time to share some recipes again! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #80 |
91. Black Bean Soup |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. LOL |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
89. They must have it a lot rougher than we do in Texas.... |
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huskerlaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
69. I live in Los Angeles |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:36 AM Response to Reply #36 |
188. And you live in Scottsdale |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
38. James McMurty sums it up for me |
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jukes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
51. regarding lost jobs in construction: |
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Jokinomx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
53. I agree completely.... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Glad you agree |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
61. thanks for the OP... peace and low stress... |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
64. I had an epiphony today looking at protest pictures. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #64 |
81. Glad to hear that |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. I want to be on the right side of history. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:11 PM Response to Reply #64 |
133. I had an ephiphany too. I resent people who are not citizens |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:18 PM Response to Reply #133 |
137. Well I am a US citizen |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:25 PM Response to Reply #137 |
139. And you have the right to try to influence us with your opinion. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:42 PM Response to Reply #139 |
145. How do you know they aren't citizens? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. On my local TV , in the SW, many were interviwed and said they were! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 09:53 PM Response to Reply #146 |
154. Oh well that's it, then! |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #154 |
167. You know what , just give it up. You don't even want to know if these |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:21 PM Response to Reply #167 |
168. America is a nation of immigrants who STOLE it from the Native Americans |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:44 PM Response to Reply #168 |
174. Our nation is what it is. Good and bad. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:41 PM Response to Reply #174 |
178. I believe we are living in a glass house that never belonged to US in the |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:34 AM Response to Reply #178 |
187. So being an American means nothing to you? Being Mexican or American are |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:08 PM Response to Reply #145 |
165. If you work with families like this and do not know whether or |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:24 PM Response to Reply #165 |
169. I don't think it is any of my business what their legal status is |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:45 PM Response to Reply #169 |
175. Are you kidding me?! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:14 PM Response to Reply #175 |
176. I am a teacher in a public school |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 09:36 PM Response to Reply #64 |
152. Thanks for that |
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Redbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
67. I'm With You. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
82. Good! |
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huskerlaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
68. Very well said. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #68 |
83. Thank you |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
72. We had a reasonable plan in place over five years ago. |
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PublicWrath (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #72 |
97. Of course Bush cares............... |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
76. Who will protect undocumented workers from the millions more |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #76 |
92. Who proposed Amnesty? |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 04:01 PM Response to Reply #92 |
101. Semantics. Still, who will protect them once they're documented? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #101 |
110. We all need a living wage. That's the bottom line. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:23 AM Response to Reply #101 |
193. Saying complete amnesty was proposed when is has not.... |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 03:04 PM Response to Reply #193 |
203. Who said amnesty was proposed? |
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PsN2Wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
77. Seems you have greater empathy |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:37 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Bullshit. That's a false dilemna. We are ALL being injured |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. Thank you. Blame the Monsantos of the world for this, not the people. |
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PsN2Wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #79 |
93. It doesn't appear to be a dilemma for the poster |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:45 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. Thought I explained that |
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PsN2Wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #88 |
96. Maybe not starve |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:29 PM Response to Reply #96 |
119. It's not a positive |
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PsN2Wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:01 PM Response to Reply #88 |
115. You must have very understanding friends |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:30 PM Response to Reply #115 |
120. Labor isn't the only reason his business is failing |
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Berserker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:01 PM Response to Reply #88 |
118. That is the most unbelievable line of bull I have ever read |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. If I had to give up my occupation, I could |
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Berserker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:38 PM Response to Reply #122 |
143. Wallow in pity? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #143 |
156. I guess you missed my brazillion other posts where I called for |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
87. Excellent post |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Thank you |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:58 PM Response to Reply #90 |
100. I think what will happen |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
95. I think everyone being hurt are human |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 03:58 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. Being an illegal immigrant is an alternative lifestyle choice... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. LOL! |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Exactly the kind of attitude |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:40 PM Response to Reply #107 |
117. Let's remember Rev. Martin Niemoeller |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:48 PM Response to Reply #117 |
125. You Go!! |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #117 |
132. So now you like religion? |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #117 |
204. Yeah. Not everything is rounding people up for a death camp. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
102. So I assume by some of these "it's illegal" posts that |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. To me, its not that its illegal |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 09:46 PM Response to Reply #104 |
153. Obviously you and I have never debated, I don't do attacks |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 04:19 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. "Rule of law" has been Thug code for segregation for -- |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:39 PM Response to Reply #106 |
128. Then why is everyone so upset that Bush doesn't seem to |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:23 PM Response to Reply #128 |
177. Not exactly. After the Civil Rights Act was passed, Thug |
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Ron Mexico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
108. "Embrace the diversity in our society that makes us the great nation..." |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. Hey, Ron. Looks like the conversation is on. |
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Ron Mexico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:24 AM Response to Reply #113 |
195. We've been waiting for a while, and there's no better time. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #108 |
129. Fabulous Post. Tell it like it is! |
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Berserker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:11 PM Response to Reply #108 |
166. Thank You Ron Mexico |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:04 AM Response to Reply #108 |
191. Well, Ron... |
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Ron Mexico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:40 AM Response to Reply #191 |
197. It wouldn't matter if they really believed that or not. |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
109. NOT minimum wage |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #109 |
114. Yes! An important distinction. |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
126. Immigration: Bush's and Congresses' limp d*ck approach to governing |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
130. it is not egaletarian, not free |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
138. you're asking us to join YOUR fight? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:29 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. Agreed. The humanitarian sympathies of the liberals are being used |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 09:02 PM Response to Reply #142 |
148. yep |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:00 PM Response to Reply #138 |
159. You are way off base here |
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Carni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 10:15 AM Response to Reply #138 |
199. And don't kid yourself |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
147. "They are human beings" is just a cop out. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 09:17 PM Response to Reply #147 |
149. I find this post full of irony... |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 09:35 PM Response to Reply #149 |
151. There are lots of options. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:02 PM Response to Reply #147 |
161. Well obviously I don't see it that way |
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Berserker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:34 PM Response to Reply #161 |
170. News Flash |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:37 PM Response to Reply #170 |
172. Which part of 'RAISING the minimum wage' |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:15 AM Response to Reply #161 |
192. There's humans and humanity on both sides. You chose the squeaky wheel. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
150. You're very generous with other people's jobs. n/t |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
184. And that is why you are proud to be liberal |
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Roxy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
186. Help me here....I keep hearing that they feel discriminated against.. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:39 AM Response to Reply #186 |
189. You forgot to mention House Bill 4437 |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
194. My 2 cents: |
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