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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:37 PM
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Poll question: When will the bUShists invade Iran?
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 04:39 PM by BurtWorm
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:38 PM
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1. Do you mean IraN?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:40 PM
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5. I meant Iowa.
:blush:
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:42 PM
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7. sorry to have pointed out your posting error
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:42 PM
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8. Apparently it was the only thing keeping this thread alive
;)
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:51 PM
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14. Sometimes that happens
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:51 PM
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15. We supposedly went red last time
But here in eastern Iowa, we are still blue. So yeah, he may well try and blow us into the Mississippi River. But we're ready for him. "Bring it on." Lol. :toast:
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:38 PM
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2. You need to edit your subject line
Iraq has already been invaded.
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Staph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:38 PM
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3. Don't know how to tell you this . . .
But he already invaded Iraq. Three years ago. It was in all the papers.


;-)
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:39 PM
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4. A little over three years ago.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:40 PM
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6. Mark of the BushBeast 666
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 04:41 PM by Juniperx
I predict on 6/6/06... because Bush can't resist what he thinks is a Biblical reference... he's Jeebus Cripes, you know.
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bmxeroftruth Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:44 PM
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11. i agree
Yeah i think something will happen on 6-6-6 because Bush has his ass stuffed with ideas on how to " get the tersts" " find them wmds" and bomb the hell outta innocent countries, pretty sad:scared:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:44 PM
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9. October
It'll be a big shock to the idiots in the media who will 'ooh and ahh' about how 'courageous' it was, the repukes will DARE the dems to say anything negative about the 'commander in chimp during a time of war', and the repukes will keep the house and the senate.

By December, when the shock has worn off, and everyone figures out we have screwed the pooch and become a global pariah, it will be too late
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:44 PM
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10. Perhaps late this Summer they will nuke Iran, then invade when the weather
is cooler and the radioactive dust has settled. :shrug:



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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:47 PM
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12. I figure they might have Israel do it
I dont know if Israel has bombs capable of penetrating deep undergound to where Irans nuclear plant is. I guess its WAAAY underground and it will be extremely difficult .

Thats where the nukes come in. Our bunker busters cant get deep enough so a nuke may be the idiots only choice.

Our karma is getting really bad . Really bad.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:48 PM
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13. After the new American Idol is picked, and finished before the new season
of Desparate Housewives.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:03 PM
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16. I definitely think it will be after Labor Day.
That way, on the fifth anniversary of 9/11, * can go on and on about the importance of being on the offensive, preemptive strikes, fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here, yadda yadda yadda. He will totally use 9/11, again, in an attempt to shore up support for the attack on Iran. Over the next two months the corporate media whores will report nothing but good news from Iran, of course, so that way * and the Repukes will be looking good just in time for the first Tuesday in November.

Well, at least they will look good in his mind. I'm convinced this is just another Rovian game of smoke and mirrors so they can keep control of both houses of Congress after the midterm elections. If this truly is their plan, I predict it will backfire in their faces. I believe America has finally had enough of this and is FINALLY waking up.
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:04 PM
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17. They will bomb but not invade
They will bomb Iran as soon as Bush thinks he has established a "case" for it, as he did with Iraq. However, I don't see a full-scale invasion happening. We would need a lot more troops than we did in Iraq. Where would they come from?
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:36 PM
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18. "It won't happen"
I voted this just to be arbitrary. ;-)

Actually, I'm going to be optimistic here. If ChimpCo's poll ratings get lower, which they have every indication of doing, there's no way he starts another war. Remember, to the ChimpCo crowd, *everything* is political. There's no way that they can solve their political troubles if they run into a new adventure.

Now, I think that they very, very much want to bomb Iran. They want this new war very badly. However, I think the political animals that they are that they'll see that it is a hopeless venture. But it's not going to stop them from talking about it. They may even use it in the election as a sign that Dems are weak on "terrism".

But the attack isn't gonna be coming any time soon. Or, at worse, it will be a single, conventional weapons attack by air, like Israel has done in the past, to take out Iran's nuclear capabilities. There will be no nukes. There will be no invasion. That's the only thing that they can get away with politically. They know that.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 08:46 AM
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20. Remember too, though, that they're stupid pigs who may think they'll
get some gain from invading, and might not care because they won't have to clean up after themselves.

But let's hope there's a pragmatist among them who sees that getting the US involved in a never-ending war with Islam is political folly of the highest/lowest order.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:05 PM
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22. Now that would be very worrisome.
I really don't think that ChimpCo can invade Iran. I just don't think that the USA has the resources right now for that. Certainly that would be viewed by *everybody* as being sheer folly. ChimpCo would have to be totally insane to try that. If they did try such a venture, it would not go very good for them militarily, to say nothing about politically.

Invading Iran would pretty much insure a Dem win in November as people would basically see ChimpCo as precisely what they are, lunatic ideologues.

They are not that dumb. I think that they'll do some kind of air strike without an invasion, ala Israel's 7 June 1981 attack on Osirak in Iraq. This has the greatest hope of escaping worldwide condemnation and even has a chance for political gain in November. Unlike the Israel attack, I think ChimpCo will have multiple targets and be of a larger scale than the 1981 surgical strike. But as long as the US is tied down in Iraq, I don't see an invasion any time soon. Certainly they would reap the whirlwind if they did.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:41 PM
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19. listen/watch Seymour Hersh's interview on Iran -- REALLY scary stuff!!!
But it will be a MAJOR bombing campaign not an invaision

Mr. Hersh pretty much says that baring unforeseen events a major attack on Iran is almost certainly going to happen in the not too distant future:

link to listen/watch/or read transcript:

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/12/1359254

snip: "Everybody I talk to, the hawks I talk to, the neoconservatives, the people who are very tough absolutely say there's no way the U.N. is going to work, and we're just going to have to assume it doesn’t in any way. Iran, by going along with the U.N., what they're really doing is rushing their nuclear program. And so, the skepticism -- there's no belief, faith here, ultimately, in this White House, in the extent of the talk, so you've got a parallel situation. The President could then say, ‘We've explored all options. We've done it.’ I could add, if you want to get even more scared, some of our closest allies in this process -- we deal with the Germans, the French and the Brits -- they're secretly very worried, not only what Bush wants to do, but they're also worried that -- for example, the British Foreign Officer, Jack Straw, is vehemently against any military action, of course also nuclear action, and so is the Foreign Office, as I said, but nobody knows what will happen if Bush calls Blair. Blair's the wild card in this. He and Bush both have this sense, this messianic sense, I believe, about what they've done and what's needed to be done in the Middle East. I think Bush is every bit as committed into this world of rapture, as is the president.

AMY GOODMAN: Sy Hersh, you write about a meeting in Vienna between Mohamed El Baradei, the Nobel Peace Prize winner and head of the I.A.E.A., and Robert Joseph, the Under Secretary of State for Arms Control, and the relationship between El Baradei and the United States.

SEYMOUR HERSH: Well, Joseph basically was, you know, essentially just -- I heard a lot about it, because it was pretty blustery. And he just went in and basically told off the head of the -- the Nobel Prize winner and said, you know, ‘You will stop--’ The European and American complaint against El Baradei is this: they say, ‘My God, he's treating this issue as if both sides have some justification, that Iran's aspirations equal the American and European's desire not for them to go nuclear. He's treating them both as parodies. And they're not. We're right, and they're wrong, and he doesn't reflect that.’ So they think he's unfair. They think he's being too balanced, too nuanced, and that was the message that Joseph gave, basically, with a significant loss of temper, or let's put it, “intemperate” behavior, basically saying, ‘You will desist from saying anything that interferes with us. We view this as our gravest national security threat.’

I can also tell you Joseph has said the same thing in Turkey to the Turkish officials. He went there, and they also reported a very boisterous meeting. And the American ambassador to the International Atomic Energy Agency is a guy named Greg Schulte, who was until last summer, August of 2005, was in charge of the Situation Room in the White House, and who from 1988 to 1992 worked for -- he's a career diplomat, but worked -- a career bureaucrat. He’s not in the diplomatic service. He worked for Dick Cheney, when he was Secretary of Defense, now the Vice President, and did nuclear stuff for him. So he's very connected to the vice President. He's also quite direct and not very diplomatic in what he believes, and it’s, you know, it’s ‘They're bad guys, we're good guys,’ that sort of approach. There's no instinct.

link to listen/watch/or read transcript:

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/12/1359254
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and be sure to read this article by Juan Cole:

Fishing for a Pretext in Iran

by Juan Cole; March 18, 2006

link: http://www.zmag.org/content/print_article.cfm?itemID=9929

snip:"it is often alleged that since Iran harbors the desire to “destroy” Israel, it must not be allowed to have the bomb. Ahmadinejad has gone blue in the face denouncing the immorality of any mass extermination of innocent civilians, but has been unable to get a hearing in the English-language press. Moreover, the presidency is a very weak post in Iran, and the president is not commander of the armed forces and has no control over nuclear policy. Ahmadinejad’s election is not relevant to the nuclear issue, and neither is the question of whether he is, as Liz Cheney is reported to have said, “a madman.” Iran has not behaved in a militarily aggressive way since its 1979 revolution, having invaded no other countries, unlike Iraq, Israel or the U.S. Washington has nevertheless succeeded in depicting Iran as a rogue state"

In fact, the Iranian regime has gone further, calling for the Middle East to be a nuclear-weapons-free zone. On Feb. 26, Ahmadinejad said:
“We too demand that the Middle East be free of nuclear weapons; not only the Middle East, but the whole world should be free of nuclear weapons.”
Only Israel among the states of the Middle East has the bomb, and its stockpile provoked the arms race with Iraq that in some ways led to the U.S. invasion of 2003. The U.S. has also moved nukes into the Middle East at some points, either on bases in Turkey or on submarines."

link to Juan Cole's article:

http://www.zmag.org/content/print_article.cfm?itemID=9929

link to interview with Seymour Hersh on Democracy Now:

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/12/1359254
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 08:48 AM
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21. Won't happen...
they will however bomb it back to the stone age to 'teach them a lesson'.

Then they'll send Halliburton in to help them out.
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