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Thu May-29-08 02:45 PM
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Mary Matalin Calls McClellan - surprise, surprise - a Liar |
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The right wing seems really shaken up and upset about this book. Does Scotty's opinion really matter that much? Weird.
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Thu May-29-08 02:52 PM
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I wonder if they get all of their talking points from one person, and they repeat them over and over and over and over again... :hi:
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Thu May-29-08 05:03 PM
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12. Their repetitious ' talking points ' are a well planned strategy to CONTROL & DEFINE the discussion. |
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The Nazis perfected that technique to quell it's citizens into submission.
" “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
Hitler's Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels
Hitler is the arch propagandist of our time. These are examples of his strategy in attempting to mold the opinions and attitudes of his intended victims to his own purposes. Division, doubt, and fear are the weapons he uses within one nation and among Allied countries arrayed against him. His purpose is summed up in his own phrase-to sow "mental confusion, contradiction of feeling, indecision, panic."
The Nazis established a ministry of propaganda. They licensed and cataloged German newspapermen to keep them in control, suppressed or "integrated" unfriendly newspapers, and as the crisis developed in Europe, expelled foreign correspondents who sought to tell the truth of what went on in Germany. They took over the broadcasting system and every other agency that bore a relationship to the cultural life of the people.
Whether the propagandist works in a peacetime or wartime situation, he uses certain tools to mobilize opinions and attitudes. What are these tools?
An important one is suggestion. Another word for it is stimulation.
The propagandist tries to stimulate others to accept without challenge his own assertions, or to act as he wants them to do. The idea of using suggestion or stimulation as a propaganda device is that it will lead a public to accept a proposition even though there are not logical grounds for accepting it. The propagandist usually tries to side-step critical reactions from his audience, and therefore suggestion is one of his most important tools.
How does the propagandist use this tool?
By making broad and positive statements. By presenting his statements in simple and familiar language. By refusing to admit, or even suggest, that there is another side to the question. Hitler's brutal and direct suggestion that the Jews sold out the German people in World War -the "stab in the back," the Nazi propagandists called it-is an example of this kind of propaganda. Another example is the repeated Nazi propagandist assertion that Prime Minister Churchill and President Roosevelt are "warmongers."
Suggestion is a highly developed art in commercial advertising. An obvious example is the flat declaration that some brand of vitamin will remedy "that tired and run-down feeling."
A second propaganda tool is only a subtler form of suggestion. This tool is the use of hints, insinuations, or indirect statements.
Next time you listen to John McCain speak at one of his Straight Talk ' town hall ' meetings, listen carefully and become aware of the misdirection signs of what/who they are trying to DEFINE through their repeated talking points that becomes part of an overall control-strategy using 24 hour media outlets to saturate and deliver their message. Zip poll samples are conducted immediately to gage & analysis the key trigger-point impact with voter attitudes. Its a low frequency 'piped-piper' tactic used to sway and confuse perceptions and views of the masses at large. Be careful when someone tries to convince you that you're thirsty when in fact, you're not.
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Thu May-29-08 02:54 PM
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Thu May-29-08 02:57 PM
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3. They are. Rove and Matalin Lie because they thnk it |
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is wrong to tell the truth. They wouold run you over if they could and not care.
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Thu May-29-08 02:58 PM
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:rofl:
she's freaking out.
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Thu May-29-08 03:00 PM
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5. "The only person who has been called a liar in this process is Valerie Plame" |
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Ms. Matalin, you know better than that. Scooter Libby was convicted of lying. He was called a liar of twelve of his peers, unanimously.
Ms. Matalin, you are simply repeating a right wing talking point that you know to be false. You are a liar.
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Thu May-29-08 03:07 PM
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I always thought Mclelan was kind of slow |
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Thu May-29-08 03:07 PM
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6. Scott was the White House Spokesman who Mary says was |
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asked to contribute to the discussion, and because he didn't he was asked to go. Maybe there was no way to spin the mess that was welling up in front of him.
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Thu May-29-08 10:08 PM
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23. deep under the skin of the filthy Repigs -- its beginning to smell like bacon |
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Thu May-29-08 03:09 PM
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7. People are the answer? |
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Did she mean people like Bush Cheney Rove Scooter Kristol
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Thu May-29-08 03:11 PM
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is a smarmy little weasel who is now running to cover his ass...i didn't trust him when he was LYING in the White House and I don't trust him now...anyone who gives this jerkoff money buying his book is a fool...like we need HIM to tell us that the whole administration is packed with criminal liars...like we need HIM to tell us Rove and Scooter The Felon were up to their necks in Plame...HA! go f yourself scotty...
his whole schtick now is, oh, we were all lying but we didn't KNOW we were lying...
he needs to be put in the clink with the rest of the scum...
oh yeah, who cares what this cow-faced old bag says...she is a criminal, too...
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Thu May-29-08 03:13 PM
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9. oooh, carville's honey |
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just goes to show how close the Clinton/Bush ties are.
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Thu May-29-08 03:26 PM
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10. Some of the stupidest people think that everyone else is stupid and that they can |
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just lie and everyone will just fall in line because they talk very well. None of this is new. We all know we were misled and Matalin is stupid enough to think that we will fall for her cockamamie lies about everything right wing. Doesn't she remind you of another such person who thinks we will buy the argument that she is winning the popular vote?
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Thu May-29-08 03:28 PM
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11. If she's so honored to have worked for Bush maybe she'd be |
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honored to serve some jail time alongside him in the near future. Her and the gasbag Hannity. Talking point chickenshits.
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Thu May-29-08 05:04 PM
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13. He's a liar now but back then it was the truth. I read from that they find truth telling sad. |
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Thu May-29-08 05:04 PM
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14. He's a liar now but back then it was the truth. I read from that they find truth telling sad. |
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Thu May-29-08 05:17 PM
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What a waste of good air. Is that a bookshelf behind her or a cross? :rofl: Another RW jizwad. :puke: Scott wrote a book to make money. How much would it have brought in if it told what we already know??? Just another pile of pachyderm poo!
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Thu May-29-08 05:57 PM
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16. nitwit liars like her, hannity, coulter, malkin - are all unworthy of my time anymore |
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I just came in to to say that - I will tolerate hearing shrub, cheney, rove, etc speak about their lies because they're the ones we're talking about lying, and therefore their words matter in pertinence to the truth and maybe catching them stumble - these idiots are just painful to listen to as they spew out talking points. I'm starting to agree with others on here, why even post the insane batshit crazy things they say - it makes 'em feel important if we pay attention to them.
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Thu May-29-08 11:35 PM
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whatever time I spent listening to that clip was time I want back. She is such a waste of skin and bone, it's obvious there are no brains in there.
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Thu May-29-08 06:15 PM
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17. Mary should know. She is one. |
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Thu May-29-08 06:20 PM
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18. Sorry....just can't bring myself to watch a video of that bitch.... |
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She is the epitomy of the classic nasty old bitch. Whe would make a GREAT witch in Wizard of Oz II.
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Thu May-29-08 07:08 PM
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19. hahahaha. Boy, they are sure upset. This is what's called...lettin' loose the dogs. |
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The Republican dogs are let loose to spread out among the various media and spout the talking points.
It's a well-known routine by now.
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Thu May-29-08 08:01 PM
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20. And the media stooges are too happy to give them a forum to spew their spin. |
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Thu May-29-08 09:48 PM
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22. Yes. Well, they DO have a lot of air time to fill. I wouldn't want to be responsible... |
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for programming. Imagine having to fill the airwaves with news 24/7.
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Thu May-29-08 09:44 PM
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21. god she's disgusting. worse than her golum husband. nt |
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