Carville: We Want a Hostage Crisis Because Our Feelings Are Hurt

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

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Carville: We Want a Hostage Crisis Because Our Feelings Are Hurt

By Al Giordano at The Field May 29

(Video courtesy of The Jed Report.)

Aw, James, here’s some advice from your old pal, Al: buck up! For a guy who talks big and postures aloud about how many “cojones” each candidate supposedly has, you’re being a big crybaby now.

So this is what it all comes down to: bratty threats to to try to hold the Democratic nomination hostage (lame threats, by the way, that can’t be effectively carried out) all because their peewings are hurt over the pushback on Senator Clinton’s inappropriate comments - made on a live Internet TV stream last Friday - that invoked the Robert Kennedy assassination of 1968.

Pushed by veteran reporter Diane Sawyer about his previous statements that the nominee will be settled by June 3, Clinton surrogate Carville moved the goal posts, saying that the negative reactions to Senator Clinton’s RFK comments were stoked by the Obama campaign and that “it was hurtful to me,” therefore implying that because of hurt feelings the Democratic Party shouldn’t have a nominee:

...more at the link

[peoli]

1. Do you think he knows that he comes across as a total evil ass hole?

[iconicgnom]

11. Carville = "Uncle Duke"

I hope Obama stays well clear of Clinton's people, like Carville and Penn. I hope he refuses their "help".
Carville has his Matalin, Penn has his Black.
Synchronicity

[Vote4Change]

15. Do you REALLY think he cares?

Not!! If he really believed for one fleeting nanosecond in anything he has professed over the past couple of decades, he wouldn't be married to that repuke "talking head"**. Like the majority of other talking point mouthpieces, he is full of sh*t!

** and a talking EMPTY head to boot!

[quark219]

2. Carville: What an ass

Carville personifies EVERYTHING that is disheartening, corrupt, and sickening in politics today. I wish that lizard would go slither under a rock.

One other observation: Have you noticed the number of similar lizards that are (or have been) huddled together on the Clinton campaign payroll? Penn, Wolfson, McCauliffe, Carville? And about a dozen others whose names I can't recall, but whose lying, distorting mugs I can't quite cleanse my memory of?

I am not trying to be partisan here, believe it or not. I have been a die-hard Edwards supporter who was torn between Clinton and Obama for the longest time. What eventually tipped me into the Obama camp was the fundamental, and increasing, dishonesty of the Clinton campaign.

I'm just being honest here: I cannot think of ONE individual on the Obama campaign that is so full of spin, propaganda, denial, dishonesty, and fear-mongering as ANY of the aforementioned four individuals.

Which is telling, I think. No fundamentally honest, ethical human being could stand to be surrounded and managed by such a pack of lizards.

[DUlover2909]

7. You're right. Carville is a fighter.

He's a very intelligent asset to have on our side. When Obama gets the nomination you might not think he's such an ass when he puts on his gloves and fights for Obama. When Obama gets elected and the wingnuts attack his policies, James Carville is gonna defend him just like he defends Hillary right now. Carville is one of the good guys. Don't try to put him in the same group as the right wing pricks that have done nothing but ruin everything positive and wholesome about American politics.

[D23MIURG23]

16. After all just look what he did for Hillary Clinton.

But seriously, this guy has been (literally) sleeping with the enemy too long. This is the guy who tried to oust Howard Dean with Harold Ford right after the '06 election.

All moralistic language aside, I think Carville is no more helpful to the party than Mark Penn.

[Poll_Blind]

3. Man, that is a great video. I'll watch it again, tomorrow. Carville is going to pieces.

  I haven't seen him that unsettled, maybe ever. I swear to God the way he hems and haws. But there's something else, knowledge of something in his voice, that concerns me.

PB

[truebluecollar]

4. I saw this guy debating Bill Richardson on Larry King

about a month ago. The visual contrast was frankly jarring, Carville all bald-headed, bony and Buchenwald and Richardson all big, brown, bearded and hairy--it looked like Smeagol debating Chewbacca. I've pretty much dismissed most everything Carville says nowadays as obstinate hackery but still marvel at what must be some pretty steamy nasty grudge sex when he and Mary Matalin are alone. MM: "Tax and spend me, you bald-headed Democratic bastard!" JC: "G-g-g-g-gonna shock and awe you right now, y-y-y-y-you dirty Republican whore!"

[Indenturedebtor]

5. LOL you totally went there man....

And it was AWESOME :applause:

I'm sick of this guys face. I hope that for tying himself to tightly to the SS Hillanic he gets sucked down in the backdraft.

[hardtoport]

6. OMFG!!!

To call that one a duzy would be to damn with faint praise. I'm laughing hysterically and fighting the urge to throw up. Talk about ambivalence. :rofl: :puke:

[zeos3]

9. I hope he forgets the safe word

[Va Lefty]

10. Must...erase...disturbing... images...from...brain

[genna]

14. The images: the horror and the shame.

Part of me was like ew, yuck. O8)

Then the other part of me was like, me too. I've watched Mary and James on Meet the Press and have wondered what the hell do they have in common.

It has to be some bondage or some kind of conflict centered push. I try to keep myself away from thoughts like that, but when you say Smeagol and Chewbacca (no not for Bill Richardson) I was thinking Smeagol and a lion tamer like the Violet movie character.

But those thoughts are creepy and make me feel like I need some hot water and Lysol. Seriously, don't do that again.

[Why Syzygy]

8. Are we supposed to believe that people like him have FEELINGS?

I don't buy it for a minute.

This reminds me of a guy I used to date. No matter what you did, he was going to find an excuse to punish you.

If if wasn't the RFK statement, it would be something else.

I'm so sick of Gamers.

[ExPatLeftist]

12. "If you believe that delegates are more important..."

"...then Senator Obama will have a lead in delegates. If you think that the popular vote is more important, then Senator Clinton will have a lead in votes*..."

In other words, if you go by the points on the board, then we lose, but if you prefer to adhere to an alternate reality, then what REALLY matters are the passing yards gained (completions by left-handed quarterbacks in the first and third quarters only).


I am sick to fucking death of people talking about Clinton's "case" for the nomination. WTF. There is no "case" for nominating the person that LOST the election. After any other sort of contest, if the loser would begin petitioning the judges to overturn the ACTUAL outcome based on criteria they pull out of their ass, they would be laughed at and told to fuck off. Somehow, though, for our party's nomination for the highest office in the nation, so many accept this behavior and do not call it what it is: Acting like a fucking spoiled 3-year-old. (I was going to say a 4 year old, but I have one of those and he knows already that you are supposed to play by the rules, not throw a tantrum and try to change them in the middle of the game when he sees that he will lose.)






* Excluding caucus states where Hillary fared poorly and assuming that the rules are broken and the delegates from Michigan and Florida are seated according to the Banana Republic fake elections that were run there. In the case that Clinton STILL does not have the lead in the popular vote considering the preceding, the Clinton campaign retains the right to include and exclude votes at will in order to make the claim that they won the popular vote. May cause dizziness and depression. Void where prohibited by the Clintons.

[Grinchie]

13. He Came Off Totally Incoherant

I had to watch the video three times before I could guess at what he was talking about.

Another Clinton Copralite.

[ProfessorPlum]

17. HOW CAN THEY F*ING BLAME OBAMA

for the RFK assassination dustup? WTF!!!? I am outraged by this shithead.

[ProfessorPlum]

18. This should be familiar to every African American

Obama won it, but he didn't super duper win it, so it doesn't count. He has to be more successful than a white guy in his position. And to think that is coming from the Clintons, how weird.

Carville is pure evil. Thanks for vowing to break our party, shithead.

[sasquatch]

20. **DING DING DING DING** WE HAVE A WINNER!!

:applause:

[LaurenG]

19. Sure "Judas"

It's all Obama's fault. :rofl:

[mod mom]

21. Carville: Million dollar Asshole

Did Carville Tip Bush Off to Kerry Strategy (Woodward)

By M.J. Rosenberg - October 7, 2006, 9:11AM
I just came across a troubling incident that Bob Woodward reports in his new book. Very troubling.

On page 344, Woodward describes the doings at the White House in the early morning hours of Wednesday, the day after the '04 election.

Apparently, Kerry had decided not to concede. There were 250,000 outstanding ballots in Ohio.

So Kerry decides to fight. In fact, he considers going to Ohio to camp out with his voters until there is a recount. This is the last thing the White House needs, especially after Florida 2000.

So what happened?

James Carville gets on the phone with his wife, Mary Matalin, who is at the White House with Bush.

"Carville told her he had some inside news. The Kerry campaign was going to challenge the provisional ballots in Ohio -- perhaps up to 250,000 of them. 'I don't agree with it, Carville said. I'm just telling you that's what they're talking about.'

"Matalin went to Cheney to report...You better tell the President Cheney told her."

Matalin does, advising Bush that "somebody in authority needed to get in touch with J. Kenneth Blackwell, the Republican Secretary of State in Ohio who would be in charge of any challenge to the provisional votes." An SOS goes out to Blackwell.

The rest is history.

Does something about this story stink to high heaven!

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward




Friday, April 08, 2005
Million Dollar Assholes: Carville, Shrum & Greenberg




I love documentaries. A lot. Real people in real situations are always weirder, more original and more interesting than any fiction Hollywood can brew.

I saw a documentary that blew me away today but I don't mean in a good way. It was called Our Brand is Crisis, about how the firm of Carville, Greenberg and Shrum (as in James Ragin' Cajun Carville and Bob $5 million man Shrum) travel around the world meddling in political situations they know little about for fun and profit when they're not busy losing Presidential elections.

The film takes place in the Bolivian election of 2002, when Carville et. al. convinced the Bolivian people they needed to elect Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada, aka Goni, an American-born candidate who speaks Spanish with an accent and who had failed miserably once before as President during the 90s. He is elected by the thinnest of margins, only to be forced to resign 14 months later amid riots that left 100 people dead.

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005/04/million-dollar-assholes-carville-shrum.html



Globalism extends to the American way of campaigning, it seems, and the hubris of the gringo strategists — earnest ex-Clintonistas employed by James Carville’s Greenberg Carville Shrum group — would be hilarious if human lives and a country’s political will weren’t at stake.
It’s a galling and provocative experience to viewers of any political persuasion, and a reminder to the left of how easily idealism can run amok.

The Carville boys were hired by Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada, a.k.a. ‘‘Goni,’’ a patrician Bolivian businessman who served a rough term as Bolivia’s president in the mid-’90s. Goni’s legacy was an unsuccessful program of ‘‘capitalization’’ (i.e., he welcomed foreign investment and watched foreigners get all the jobs).
By 2002, the time of filming, unemployment is through the roof and rural campesinos are agitating for political representation. Goni is old news and his poll numbers are dismal. Enter Jeremy Rosner, Greenberg Carville Shrum’s point man in Bolivia, an articulate manipulator of mass moods (and a fellow who bears an uncanny resemblance to Seth Meyers of ‘‘Saturday Night Live’’ — reality parodies itself here better than any comic could).
-snip
http://www.boston.com/ae/movies/articles/2006/06/30/a_campaign_in_bolivia_thats_made_in_america/

[FutureDemocrat]

22. I think Carville is a GOP spy

Just my opinion. It's fitting that he supports Hillary, who is really a republican at heart. I think we should kick him to the GOP where he belongs.

[habitual]

23. Could anyone please refer me to what he keeps complaining about

in SD. I seem to have missed this unless it is something that I already know about by another name rather than 'that stunt he pulled in South Dakota'??

thanx much for any replies.

[ProfessorPlum]

24. He's talking about Hillary's assassination comments

about how the Obama campaign issued a statement about it.

THAT is what he's complaining about. He claims that because the Obama campaign reacted to Hillary making veiled requests for someone to blow him away ("Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?"), that OBAMA is to blame for them staying in the contest until the primary and beyond.

I'm so angry I could spit. What the hell?

[habitual]

25. thanx. wow, talk about not able to own up to your OWN mistakes.

figures, it's always that way with them it seems. (them = Clinton campaign)