Obama’s Katrina, do you really want to compare an oil spill to Hurricane Katrina?

[politic_vic]

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[Rabrrrrrr]

1. I sure don't. Katrina was forewarned, and Shrubbie's propblem was lack of response,

not lack of making it stop from happening (over which he had no control).

The oil problem is that is was not forewarned, and that Obama is responding perfectly well to the environmental cleanup and disaster response as he should (and Shrubbie didn't). It's BP that's offering us a constant fail on stopping the disaster itself.

Any time anyone in the media (or on DU) says some fucking bullshit line that "This is Obama's Katrina!" should be shouted down vigorously by everyone who has a brain.

[swilton]

3. Oil Blowup Was Unpredicted

Environmental crises as a result of degradation in the aftermath of the leak(s) was/is being predicted

[AlbertCat]

10. a result of degradation

Deregulation....and the neglect of infrastructure (that causes things like levees failing) are indeed linked.... but not to Obama. However there are other dots here to connect...most leading to a certain party... but not to Obama. Do Repugs really want to go there?


But I do love how the GOP is now crowing about what a failure Bush was! John Stewart did a great segment on how the GOP keep acknowledging Bush's screw ups by comparing them to Obama....who STILL hasn't had thousands of innocent people murdered in one day, using box cutters, on his watch.

Anyone got a link to Stewart's segment? (I'm on someone else's PC and am having a hard enough time!)

[Rabrrrrrr]

15. Indeed. precisely as I stated it.

[SargeUNN]

2. I went through and worked on Katrina Issues so

I think my opinion is more informed than most would be. Here is my opinion of the "Obama's Katrina" claim. It is totally stupid. There are several factors that make such a claim idiotic and as wrong as it can be.

Katrina came about from a natural event that was worsened by exploitation of the situation to profit and do nothing that didn't fit into the profit gain by the administration as well as the power gain. Programs were in place with known workable solutions that were ignored. This oil gusher is a failed policy from Cheney's secret energy policy that lifted regulations for safety even though solving problems from it not being set. We are there for waiting for solutions that aren't known whereas Bush could have followed known problems time tested and he didn't.

[SemperEadem]

4. For real... Katrina was a natural disaster that was

further exacerbated by the lack of timely, federal response.

BP's oil spill is a result of BP exploiting the fact that the energy policy that was put into place by Cheney and his minions hid most of the fukkery that BP was engaging in while putting profits above everything else. There is nothing remotely similar between the two.

[Ian David]

5. The right-wing kept blaming "state and local" for Katrina's failures. n/t

[SargeUNN]

6. in part it was state and local, but it was Federal that really made it

I was in South Mississippi and Haley Barbour was indeed part of the problem as was local officials there who by the way, were conservatives or at least strong conservative leaning. Barbour used funds that was meant for housing issues to help commerical recovery and such as that, so the claim of State and local being part of the problem it is some what true, but the biggest culprit was the Bush Admin. and it's failure to follow known procedures from past hurricanes such as Camille.

[meegbear]

7. George Will is comparing it to the Iranian Hostage Crisis ...

at this rate, when it does get contained, it'll be compared to the Great Panic of 1837.

[Richd506]

8. True

But in a way, it' kind of like the Civil War. Only a bit more like 9/11...

[SleeplessinSoCal]

9. I think that by asking the question, the GOP gets what they want out of this disaster.

[spicegal]

11. The blame for this falls squarely on the shoulders of BP, Deep Horizon, possibly

Halliburton, and anyone else who knew that the well's casing and blow out preventer were compromised a long time ago. There's a huge difference between manmade and natural disasters.

[Big Picture]

12. I'm not blaming Obama either

but if W were still President would we be cutting him the same
slack?

OR would we be saying that the govt slow response / inaction
is b/c he don't give a darn about the environment and only
wants to protect big oil?

I'm just saying? or asking?

Worthy of debate anyway.  I think it is always best to look at
issues from both sides.

[SkyDaddy7]

13. Personally I would be blaming BP and...

seriously questioning W's, or to be correct, Cheney's oil policies & secret meetings with the oil CEO's...That we still have no idea what went on in those meetings.

I hate to sound like someone who blames everything on W's Administration but I know one thing is for sure...Obama has become Janitor in Chief! Seriously, every single pressing issue he is having to deal with is directly related to W's fuck ups and/or Reagan Era policies that both parties have played a role in passing but especially the Republicans while Bush was in office!

Both wars are in the shape they are in due to Bush's fuck-ups

The National Debt would be at least 3 trillion less had Bush taken John McCain's advice at the time and not passed the tax cuts for the wealthy and on top of that he went into Iraq completely unprepared and refused to admit he fucked up for 2 years...And had Bush not gone into Iraq and stayed focused on Afghanistan when the majority of Afghans wanted us there then I know the situation would be much better.

Not to mention the delusional mentality many Americans have now due to nearly two decades of talk radio & FOX "News" spewing the crap they do...Obviously Obama is not a "Bleeding Heart Liberal" he is a middle of the road moderate but try telling that to the brain dead crowd that lives & dies by whatever it is they hear or see from talk radio & FOX. As long as the Republicans are able to control the air waves as they do Obama or any Democrat will be fighting an almost impossible battle to get anything that could be called progress done.

Oh well, this is the America we live in...Who knows how many financial, economic, environmental disasters we will have to have before the majority of Americans begin to ignore the loud voices on the right and begin to settle down and do a little thinking.

[politic_vic]

18. very well said

[dorkulon]

14. It doesn't take a team of scientists and engineers to give people water.

The only thing they have in common is location.

[grahamhgreen]

16. He opened the door Hell - his "Drill, Baby, Drill" policiy is entirely his fault. FAIL!

[Tx4obama]

17. Huh?

Obama did NOT have a 'drill, baby, drill" policy.
President Obama ok'd "studies on drilling", he didn't approve the new drilling.
If you want to blame folks then blame Bush & Cheney for deregulating the oil industry
and Palin for HER 'drill, baby, drill' BS.

I am really sick and tired of everyone 'trying' to put all of the world's problems on the shoulders of Obama.