The wheels are coming off

[frogcycle]

Flipped over to fox noise for a second this morning during a commercial on MSNBC. They were just wrapping up an interview with Carl Levin, who was describing the approach of refocusing the mission on 1) pursuit of al queda in iraq 2) force protection and 3) training iraqis

They were gruntingly polite while interviewing, finished the interview, and once he was off air one of them said with a sneer "thank you, general Levin". Then they said "now let's go to our military experts for their perspective" and announced a general (ret) and a colonel (ret) I've seen numerous times.

The noise guy repeated the summary above to the general and said "Carl Levin says they should just be... while that all sounds fine, what ELSE should they be doing, general?" The general proceeded to say he agreed with Levin. So they cut him off and went to the colonel (the one with the real raspy voice). Asked him the same thing, and he pretty much endorsed Levin as well. Said there is no military solution, the politicians in Iraq need to solve it, and there is no point in our fighting their war if they won't.

Add that to Ollie North's coming out of the wilderness earlier this week, and they are really running out of gas.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/09/north-troops-oppose-escalation/

It actually seems like some of the knee-jerk flag-wavers are getting it - that they have been had. Like we said back in the election campaign "Republicans think you're stupid." They are realizing the truth of that, and getting downright huffy about it. Despite thinking most of them have mental blocks against reason, I do believe that many/most ARE driven by patriotism - sometimes to a fault - and when they really get it that we are under attack from within, hey they can turn like a snake.

Can't wait for Hannity's head to explode. Or o'loofa's. Or both at once. If it weren't so far off, I'd want to save that spectacle for 4th of July.

Hey, what if that whore Snow realized HE had been had and got pissed enough to blow the whistle! Sounds farfetched, but you know the old "rats fleeing a sinking ship" metaphor. As people figure out their career is dead meat if they continue drinking the kool-aid, no telling what might happen.

[waiting for hope]

1. What is really sad

is that I've come to the realization that most of these talking heads truly believe what the WH is spinning for them. They are the 30 minus percent that's left in this country and when their ratings begin to really slip, they will be left out in the cold. I heard on NPR this morning that Faux Noise's new show - 1/2 Hour News (I think) - the counter to Colbert and Stewart, that the time was right for a show that leaned toward the right of the right, and only because of the right being in the majority for the last six years is the only reason why Colbert and Stewart have done so well - that I can not believe and stomach, Colbert and Stewart do well because they point out "stupidity" in it's finest. Republicans have been doing a fairly good job on acting stupid, even being in the minority.

[frogcycle]

5. "most of these talking heads truly believe what the WH is spinning for them."

yes, I think many do... and when they figure it out, they'll turn - oh so fast

first came matthews and scarborough... some of the most far right will never cave - they'll just join the KKK or move to Montana with a bunch of assault rifles - but in large part the wheels are coming off the administration stranglehold

[pretzel4gore]

2. the mediawhores says we're traitors

this is absolutely amazing! the democrats are legal reps, lawmakers! yet they (and we) are traitors(?)
(notice the mis-spelled 'caleld' in the orig)
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003547277
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'NY Post': Those Who Oppose 'Surge' in Congress Are Guilty of 'Treason'

By E&P Staff

Published: February 17, 2007 6:30 PM ET

NEW YORK "TREASON" screamed the front page of the New York Post today, in reaction to Friday's vote in the House of Representatives which easily passed a nonbinding resolution opposing President Bush's troop surge in Iraq. Seventeen Republicans joined the Democrats in that vote.

The Post's Ralph Peters caleld it "the most disgraceful congressional action since the Democratic Party united to defend slavery"-- roughly 150 years ago.

Peters charged, "Providing aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime is treason. It's not 'just politics.' It's treason....

"The vote was a huge morale booster for al Qaeda, for Iraq's Sunni insurgents, and for the worst of the Shia militias....

"We've reached a low point in the history of our government when a substantial number of legislators would welcome an American defeat in Iraq for domestic political advantage. ...

"If you were an Iraqi, would you be willing to trust Americans and risk your life after the United States Congress voted to abandon you?"

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E&P Staff

[frogcycle]

4. well, to build on my "rat's fleeing sinking ship" metaphor

those not yet fleeing are acting like cornered rats - getting more vicious

they'll continue until, one hopes, they self-destruct

[pretzel4gore]

6. they forget

the 'strong silent type' such as the Marshal in 'High Noon' is the popular ideal, even among freepers....Al Gore and John Kerry looking better every day (not to mention Clinton)
you can actually feel revulsion building!

[frogcycle]

8. yeah

and Gary Cooper, John Wayne, James Stewart et al must be spinning in their graves over this chickenhawk takeover

[The Blue Flower]

3. Maybe it's in our national genes?

From Sinclair Lewis' "Dodsworth" published in 1929 and which I happen to be reading right now:

"Strikes me that one-half or maybe two-thirds of the American people are the best fellows on earth--the friendliest and the most interested in verything and the jolliest. And I guess the remaining third are just about the worst crabs, the worst Meddlesome Matties, the most ignorant and pretentious fools, that God ever made."

[eppur_se_muova]

11. Another Lewis book I'll have to read some day. Thanks. nt

[spag68]

7. CNN

is the new fox. If you want to influence CNN, e-mail them about Glen Beck as I did.

[senseandsensibility]

9. That's funny

in a tragic kind of way.

[w4rma]

10. Hannity's and O'Loofa's heads will never explode because they are insiders to the con.

The best you can do with them is expose them and/or replace them.

They aren't being conned. They are two of the neo-con con-artists.

They make huge amounts of money by pushing the cons. They aren't and have never been patriots. They're mercenaries with microphones.

[TacticalPeek]

12. .

[JNelson6563]

13. haha My man Levin always takes it to 'em

He is invincible. They don't bother to try tand thwart him directly and now their 'round about attempts fail too.

Compared to those Faux News fools Levin is a giant, a colussus even.

Julie

[KoKo]

14. I don't watch Fox but might have to given MSNBC & CNN's 24 hr. Coverage of

Bald Brittany and Anna Nicole. If Levin appeared on Fox maybe I should start to watch? In all my DU years I never ever watched them...figured they were like "Rim Job's Free Repug Site" and didn't want to give them ratings.

If Levin was on there then that's good. He hasn't been on MSNBC or CNN ...because they just care about the InfoTainment Value...or Hyping WAR WITH IRAN!