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Fri Jan-04-08 12:37 AM
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It's hard for me to believe I'm saying this. |
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But we might be on our way to seeing the United States' first black President, folks.
40 years ago black people couldn't ride in the front of the bus.
This is an important moment in history. And progress- real progress- is being made.
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Fri Jan-04-08 12:39 AM
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Fri Jan-04-08 12:41 AM
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2. Although I don't disagree with you, I still think that it is much to early to predict that.... |
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That would work for me to be sure, but I just don't think that a win in Iowa is a win in the General.
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Fri Jan-04-08 02:07 AM
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Except for the deepest RED states, America as a whole is younger, more ethnically diverse, and more urban than Iowa. :rofl:
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Fri Jan-04-08 12:44 AM
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3. I have to agree that we are on the way to our first black president. |
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And for sure, that is historic. But Obama would be a great president if he were purple. Did you catch the speech on CNN? WOW.
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Fri Jan-04-08 12:46 AM
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Let's wait until February 5 before jumping to conclusions.
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Fri Jan-04-08 12:49 AM
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6. I think that after Tuesday, we can start making some conclusions. |
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Fri Jan-04-08 12:49 AM
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His mother is white, y'know. If his mother was Jewish and his dad gentile, we would say he was Jewish. But if he has one drop of black blood, he's black? I say he's the first black president, but also the 44th white president.
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Fri Jan-04-08 12:51 AM
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8. skin color trumps all when one is making a snap assumption of heritage |
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when you see someone across a room and are asked to identify them, you have no way of knowing whether a black man had a white mother or a black mother.
If someone is blonde, you do not necessarily know that they dye their hair, you only know that when you are seeing them, they have blonde hair:)
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Fri Jan-04-08 01:50 AM
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13. "If his mother was Jewish and his dad gentile, we would say he was Jewish." |
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Fri Jan-04-08 01:59 AM
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18. Oh pleae...here's how race is LIVED in America |
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When the cop gets a call that there's a "suspicious black male" in a white neighborhood, and he sees Barack Obama walking down the street, will he stop and question him because he "fits the description?" Of course he would. That his mother is white is immaterial in the true MATERIAL sense of the way race is lived.
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Fri Jan-04-08 02:01 AM
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Fri Jan-04-08 02:05 AM
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24. The short answer to your question is yes. n/t |
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Fri Jan-04-08 12:51 AM
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7. Hate to break it to you but Obama is going to bottom out after this |
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The honkers are not pleased.
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Fri Jan-04-08 01:18 AM
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I grew up in/during the Civil Rights Movement... We had some scary moments and losing MLK was just devastating to me.
It will hopefully be a sign of great heaing...but the same forces of evil and corruption are still very much in charge, so I hope we understand the seriousness of the times.
My only fear is our country turning into a 'police state' because of a domestic attack. This would force Obama to support the 'surveillance industrial complex' and National ID.
Since 'Defense' lobbying is off the table, the Democrats will be looking for contributions from corporate contractors working with homeland security. Everybody would get on that bandwagon, right away, as we have witnessed before.
Saboteurs could change things pretty quickly. Would Obama demand rightful investigations? Would Congress, FINALLY, do rightful investigations?
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Fri Jan-04-08 01:19 AM
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10. I'm waiting for a gay president (nt) |
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Fri Jan-04-08 02:00 AM
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19. Probably had several already |
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What you're waiting for is an OUT President. :-)
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Fri Jan-04-08 02:14 AM
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30. That's true, at least statistically. nt |
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Fri Jan-04-08 05:00 AM
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31. Honestly, i think we have one now. |
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Fri Jan-04-08 01:46 AM
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11. But this shouldn't be about color |
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It should be about the issues. I'm tired of people talking about the "first black/woman president". I don't give a shit, so long as it's a President who will undo the damage Bush has done.
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Fri Jan-04-08 01:49 AM
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12. I disagree. I think it's important for our country's sense of political justice |
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to break that string of white, Christian males- one of the three, at least- in the Presidency. It's not just a coincidence, and it matters.
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Fri Jan-04-08 01:50 AM
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14. You should give a shit that so many people are disenfranchised |
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Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 01:51 AM by sfexpat2000
in this country. It's not really democracy if people of color or women or non straight people aren't included, is it?
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Fri Jan-04-08 01:54 AM
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15. I don't think people get the point until they really look at that 230-year |
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That's a lot of white, Christian dudes to be elected in a row just by coincidence. It needs to be broken to show that we're better than that.
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Fri Jan-04-08 01:58 AM
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17. We've been sold the idea that we're a classless society |
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and that racism has been handled. If we swallow that, we're not even trying.
I had a good laugh with my mom tonight, because here I have a choice between this brilliant black man, a connected powerful woman and I'm going with the white guy with the Southern accent.
:rofl:
:hi:
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Fri Jan-04-08 02:04 AM
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23. I wish Al Sharpton was our first black president. Or Huey Newton. /nt |
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Fri Jan-04-08 02:08 AM
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Fri Jan-04-08 01:58 AM
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16. Regardless if he gets the nominination or not, |
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the fact that he is where he is right now is pretty amazing. He is the first VIABLE black candidate ever.
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Fri Jan-04-08 02:01 AM
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21. Absolutely agreed. nt |
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Fri Jan-04-08 02:04 AM
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22. It's especially great because it's been pounded into our heads |
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that the country has gone conservative, that the "majority" is conservative. That's a lie, of course.
But part of the baggage of "conservative" is the racism of the GOP. The Republican Party couldn't function without it.
Tonight was a big kick in the teeth to all of that. :)
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Fri Jan-04-08 02:09 AM
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too many syllables for you?
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Fri Jan-04-08 02:13 AM
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29. No, it just sounds dumb. |
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Especially when he's black.
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Fri Jan-04-08 02:09 AM
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28. this is a total historic day in history. (historic in a good way--for a change) n/t |
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