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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:37 AM
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It's hard for me to believe I'm saying this.
But we might be on our way to seeing the United States' first black President, folks.

40 years ago black people couldn't ride in the front of the bus.

This is an important moment in history. And progress- real progress- is being made.
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:39 AM
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1. Go !!! Ameica !!!
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:41 AM
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2. Although I don't disagree with you, I still think that it is much to early to predict that....
That would work for me to be sure, but I just don't think that a win in Iowa is a win in the General.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:07 AM
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25. You're right
Except for the deepest RED states, America as a whole is younger, more ethnically diverse, and more urban than Iowa. :rofl:
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:44 AM
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3. I have to agree that we are on the way to our first black president.
And for sure, that is historic. But Obama would be a great president if he were purple. Did you catch the speech on CNN? WOW.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:46 AM
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4. Whoa, Nelly
Let's wait until February 5 before jumping to conclusions.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:49 AM
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6. I think that after Tuesday, we can start making some conclusions.
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ArtieBoy Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:49 AM
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5. His mother is white
His mother is white, y'know. If his mother was Jewish and his dad gentile, we would say he was Jewish. But if he has one drop of black blood, he's black? I say he's the first black president, but also the 44th white president.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:51 AM
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8. skin color trumps all when one is making a snap assumption of heritage
when you see someone across a room and are asked to identify them, you have no way of knowing whether a black man had a white mother or a black mother.

If someone is blonde, you do not necessarily know that they dye their hair, you only know that when you are seeing them, they have blonde hair:)
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:50 AM
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13. "If his mother was Jewish and his dad gentile, we would say he was Jewish."
What's your point?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:59 AM
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18. Oh pleae...here's how race is LIVED in America
When the cop gets a call that there's a "suspicious black male" in a white neighborhood, and he sees Barack Obama walking down the street, will he stop and question him because he "fits the description?" Of course he would. That his mother is white is immaterial in the true MATERIAL sense of the way race is lived.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:01 AM
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20. *groan*
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:05 AM
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24. The short answer to your question is yes. n/t
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:51 AM
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7. Hate to break it to you but Obama is going to bottom out after this
The honkers are not pleased.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:18 AM
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9. TOTALLY COOL.
I grew up in/during the Civil Rights Movement... We had some scary moments and losing MLK was just devastating to me.

It will hopefully be a sign of great heaing...but the same forces of evil and corruption are still very much in charge, so I hope we understand the seriousness of the times.

My only fear is our country turning into a 'police state' because of a domestic attack. This would force Obama to support the 'surveillance industrial complex' and National ID.

Since 'Defense' lobbying is off the table, the Democrats will be looking for contributions from corporate contractors working with homeland security. Everybody would get on that bandwagon, right away, as we have witnessed before.

Saboteurs could change things pretty quickly. Would Obama demand rightful investigations? Would Congress, FINALLY, do rightful investigations?
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:19 AM
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10. I'm waiting for a gay president (nt)
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:00 AM
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19. Probably had several already
What you're waiting for is an OUT President. :-)
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:14 AM
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30. That's true, at least statistically. nt
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:00 AM
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31. Honestly, i think we have one now.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:46 AM
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11. But this shouldn't be about color
It should be about the issues. I'm tired of people talking about the "first black/woman president". I don't give a shit, so long as it's a President who will undo the damage Bush has done.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:49 AM
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12. I disagree. I think it's important for our country's sense of political justice
to break that string of white, Christian males- one of the three, at least- in the Presidency. It's not just a coincidence, and it matters.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:50 AM
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14. You should give a shit that so many people are disenfranchised
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 01:51 AM by sfexpat2000
in this country. It's not really democracy if people of color or women or non straight people aren't included, is it?

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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:54 AM
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15. I don't think people get the point until they really look at that 230-year
chain.

That's a lot of white, Christian dudes to be elected in a row just by coincidence. It needs to be broken to show that we're better than that.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:58 AM
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17. We've been sold the idea that we're a classless society
and that racism has been handled. If we swallow that, we're not even trying.

I had a good laugh with my mom tonight, because here I have a choice between this brilliant black man, a connected powerful woman and I'm going with the white guy with the Southern accent.

:rofl:

:hi:
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:04 AM
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23. I wish Al Sharpton was our first black president. Or Huey Newton. /nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:08 AM
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26. I know. Me, too. n/t
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:58 AM
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16. Regardless if he gets the nominination or not,
the fact that he is where he is right now is pretty amazing. He is the first VIABLE black candidate ever.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:01 AM
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21. Absolutely agreed. nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:04 AM
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22. It's especially great because it's been pounded into our heads
that the country has gone conservative, that the "majority" is conservative. That's a lie, of course.

But part of the baggage of "conservative" is the racism of the GOP. The Republican Party couldn't function without it.

Tonight was a big kick in the teeth to all of that. :)
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Party Line Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:09 AM
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27. Is "multiracial"
too many syllables for you?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:13 AM
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29. No, it just sounds dumb.
Especially when he's black.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:09 AM
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28. this is a total historic day in history. (historic in a good way--for a change) n/t
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