I Channel Surfed Between MSNBC/CNN Coverage and No One Mentioned Voting Machine Fraud!

[KoKo]

They all did intropectives about "Race Vote, Women Crying Vote, Cell Phone Users Not being Included, and
whatever else reasons they could throw in...but NOT ONE PERSON in the Pundits, Analysts or the rest MENTIONED the DIEBOLD/CLONE TOUCH SCREENS!

Even though I don't think their was "Touch Screen Voting Manipulation" in New Hampshire...it's just INCREDIBLE that given that since "Selection 2000" that the "McCorporate Media" would have called in EXPERTS AND PUNDITS AND WHATEVER...and NOT MENTIONED...that "TOUCH SCREEN VOTING" might be a factor...REAL or NOT...they've been getting mail from "Verified Voting Activists" for YEARS about this problem. Many of us have e-mailed them REAMS OF INFO from the MOST Reliable of Sources. Books have been written about these CRAP MACHINES...yet they go to "Older Women, Lying Poll Takers and everything else they can find to EXPLAIN WHY THE POLLLING DATA WAS SO WRONG!

I don't know if there was fraud with the "Touch Screens" but, I would have liked for THEM to have mentioned it in their "whore fest" mix of misinformation.

Anyone else who watched the coverage "Channel Surfing" notice that? :shrug:

[alcibiades_mystery]

1. Were They Doing a Special on Paranoia?

If not, then I'm not surprised.

[ORDagnabbit]

3. why are you afraid of transparent and verifable elections?

[alcibiades_mystery]

31. Because I'm a Freeper troll controlling your mind on orders from our Corporate Masters

:rofl:

[Roland99]

2. Why should they? I'm not aware of ANY reports of machine malfunction or election fraud.

[ORDagnabbit]

6. then perhaps we can help you out.

www.bbv.org

http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=681

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4009174&mesg_id=4009174

[Roland99]

9. Bethel Bible Village? Ron Paul claiming, what, Romney benefited? And a list of stats?

Proof of... what?

Obama voters voted early via absentee (paper), perhaps?


Your paranoia is showing.

[ORDagnabbit]

12. proof that I am not scared of hand counts to verify machine tabulations

all hand counts = obama win
all machine tabulation = obama loss

all hand count = paul at 15%
all machine tabulation = paul at 9%



why not hand count the results and compare them to the machine tabulations.

[Roland99]

17. mmmkay

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4009174&mesg_id=4012627

[Missy M]

4. Perhaps because there was none.

[Captain Hilts]

5. Large % of Dem voters were undecided. No conspiracy. There you go. nt

[ORDagnabbit]

7. then you would not be oppossed to a hand recount to verify the tabulation machines?

[TreasonousBastard]

16. You want to count them? OK, knock yourself out.

[ORDagnabbit]

18. just like jury duty and punch card duty back in the day...volunteers are need for every election

to verify that tabulation machine counts = the ballots cast.


are you afraid of verifable and transparent elections?

[TreasonousBastard]

24. Actually, there are pollwatchers at our polls, and...

they do watch what's going on.

But they rarely have any reason to spend hours, and hours, and hours, and hours, and hours, recounting.

[Bitwit1234]

8. Will the doodle boppers please take off to outer space

they might find an alien planet more suitable to their view of fantasy land.

Hey Hillary and Edwards supporters let all write to Iowa and the govenor of Iowa and the mayors of the towns and everybody we can find an address for and tell them we want an independent investigation that we think they are all a bunch of crooks in Iowa and that they were paid off to give the votes to Obama...AND DOESN'T IT SOUND SILLY...IF THE DOODLE BOPPPERS ONLY KNEW THAT'S HOW DAMN STUPID THEY SOUND.

[RB TexLa]

10. Maybe there wasn't any?

I'll save you the time typing a reply.

"No, my person didn't win Diebold stole it!!! Rove was involved, no way my person lost! It was stolen!!"

[City Lights]

11. Say it ain't so, Koko01! Not even Wolf Blitzer?

He had did a CNN Exclusive not too long ago about it, but nothing today, eh?

Color me shocked, Koko01!

[KoKo]

32. Sadly...it's true...after all these years they are "hunting under beds" and running "everywhere" and

they NEVER MENTION the TOUCH SCREEN MACHINES or the "Opti-Scan" Tabulators where the polling folks call into "central location" and it's "reported."

Sad thing..for those working since 2000 Bush vs. Gore to see. But, it shows how AFRAID THEY ARE...

Still doesn't help us much...their fear, though. :-(

[Fresh_Start]

13. No touchscreens in New Hampshire

paper ballots across the state.
Many read by optical reader. Some handcounted

There's a paper audit trail.

Now where's that audit trail for Iowa?

[ORDagnabbit]

14. audit the diebold tabulation machines in NH and compare to ballots

[Fresh_Start]

15. sure...reconvene the caucus in Iowa

and do a recount there too, while you are at it

[ORDagnabbit]

21. strawman arguement....

i raised the alarm about fraud in Iowa and had a number of posts deleted right before the iowa caucus.


in NH you have hand cast ballots counted one of two ways...

counted by hand =

obama win
Paul at 15%


counted by machine
obama loss
paul at 9%

[Fresh_Start]

22. the handcounting is performed in areas without readers

its not the same population

[Fresh_Start]

23. so how are you gonna check the tally in Iowa?

there's paper to check in NH

[ORDagnabbit]

25. sadly no idea on that one.

[Fresh_Start]

27. statistically the hand tally and the optical readers cant be compared

because they are different populations..not statistical sample pulled from the same population

there's town by town counts floating around
you can see just how volatile the results were


Obama vote was virtually identical from Iowa to New Hampshire, just 1% less even though there was about 4% fewer 17-29 year olds.
Obama vote was on target with the pre-primary polls, as was Edwards....
only Clinton went up (neither Obama nor Edwards lost support)
the undecideds decided

[ORDagnabbit]

28. actually you can in NH

every ballot is a paper ballot and they are counted one of two ways..


1. by hand
2. by a diebold machine


take all the ballots and hand count them and compare them to the machine tabulations

simple as that

[Fresh_Start]

29. you're answering a different question

I'm responding to his strawman about the difference in the hand tally and machine count

If you look at the thread you'll see that I confirmed that its all on paper.

[KoKo]

34. NO...you do have the "OPTICAL SCANS" in Dartmouth and other College towns...

:shrug:

[tritsofme]

19. Probably because they are not paranoid/delusional

Everyone besides the blogosphere can seem to accept their candidate losing an election, but some people around here its ALWAYS voter fraud.

[WinkyDink]

20. Yes, because Democrats RIGGED the MACHINES! WE ARE CRIMINALS!

[Lex]

26. How about Karl Rove being behind it. Did they mention that!??!!111

nt

[KoKo]

33. LOL's ...One of our NC Activists asked me on the phone the other day...WHERE

IS KARL ROVE? I said "I think he's retired." Activist said: "...YEAH...RIGHT...he's RETIRED, from DC..but WHAT'S HE UP TO!"

I have to wonder...where is the "DR. DEATH ELECTION GURU" working these days? Karl Rove Retired is like such a FARCE! ROVE is probably VERY INVOLVED ...but "under the radar" just like always..

[karlrschneider]

30. I noticed they had nothing to say about the possibility of little green men tampering with

the results either. Damn them! (the media AND the LGM)

[Roland99]

35. It's TRUE!!! The GOP *WANT* Hillary to win! They know she's a LOSER!

:rofl:




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