Buzz Clik
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:04 PM
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Apparently, the "right' thing to do is endorse racist symbols. |
ayeshahaqqiqa
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:07 PM
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Any Southerner who flies this flag here in Arkansas gets a little lecture on history from me. This flag was used by the Army of Northern Virginia, and Arkansas troops west of the Mississippi never saw it. It was taken over as a symbol of the KKK during Reconstruction, and it is as that symbol that it is used today.
It isn't seen a lot around here. Even the Sons of Confederate memorial on the courthouse flies the Confederate Flag, not this racist rag.
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:09 PM
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3. Needless to say, here in Indiana, that flag has had a single purpose. |
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We still see it adorning pickup trucks occasionally, and the message is loud and clear.
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:11 PM
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I spotted a confederate flag on a coworker's vehicle, and I asked him why he didn't just drag the corpse of a slave behind his truck instead.
He didn't understand what I meant...
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:13 PM
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8. Slaves are hard to find. You might have suggested a homersexial, and he'd have cracked a grin. |
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:11 PM
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7. Indiana and Illinois have had a history |
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of KKK activity and race riots, sad to say.
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:15 PM
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11. When I first arrived in Indiana less than years ago, ... |
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... I had the pleasure (um... horror) of seeing someone wearing a Klan jacket in public. A basketball game, actually.
:wow:
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:17 PM
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14. Maybe you can corroborate something for me |
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A good friend of mine grew up in Kokomo, and he once told me that a nearby town had a "Welcome to" sign that included the warning:
"N****r, Don't Let the Sun Go Down on you Here."
I can't remember the name of the town, nor when the sign would have been removed (if it ever existed).
Did you ever hear of something similarly enlightened?
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Buzz Clik
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:21 PM
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18. Linton, Indiana. Southwestern part of the state. |
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Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 02:21 PM by Buzz Clik
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:22 PM
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:25 PM
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22. Yep. The signs were still up in the 1960s. |
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There were communities in the state where school kids recited some Klan pledge rather than the Pledge of Allegiance.
Indiana, particularly the southern parts, bears little cultural resemblance to the rest of the Midwest. It has a lot of nasty attributes we usually associate with the deep South.
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:21 PM
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Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 02:22 PM by ayeshahaqqiqa
In Illinois, ca 1909, there was a race riot in Springfield. During and after the Civil War, many towns in the state enacted "Black laws" which made it illegal for blacks to be in the city limits after dark. I know that this was the case in the small town where my mother grew up, because her older brother told me about it. Edited to add: This was in the 1920s and 1930s as far as my mother's town goes. I don't know of any town in Illinois now that would have a sign like you saw in Kokomo.
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:25 PM
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23. don't see it so much up here in NW Indiana. nt. |
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:28 PM
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26. No. Your neck of the woods is far more civilized. |
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:25 PM
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Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 02:25 PM by IndianaJones
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:08 PM
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2. Good grief, where did you find that disgusting thing? |
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Did you covertly attend a lynching? Or a GOP fundraiser?
But I repeat myself...
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:11 PM
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5. Maybe at a site where he lurks |
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Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 02:11 PM by Moochy
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Buzz Clik
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:19 PM
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15. I didn't always lurk. |
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I took great pleasure in exploding a few heads. And one day, they took away my membership pass, and then another and another and another.
They really don't like hearing how despicable they are.
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:11 PM
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6. You don't have to go too deep into the belly of the beast to find it. |
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The true knuckledraggers really snuggle up to the Stars and Bars -- and why not? It makes such a statement when you can show your despise for minorities and piss off "libruls" with a single gesture.
Stupid is as stupid does.
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:14 PM
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The Stars and Bars is not the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia. The link is to a webpage that correctly names all the "rebel flags". http://unitedstatesamericanflags.com/rebel_flag_wallpaper.htmAnd here's the Stars and Bars itself.
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:16 PM
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12. My ignorance. Thanks for the history lesson (we're keeping you busy!) |
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:14 PM
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10. Can I show my Tibetian good-luck symbol, then? |
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Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 02:17 PM by krispos42
:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:17 PM
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13. That one hasn't always been lucky. Maybe in Tibet... |
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:24 PM
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21. Native Americans use this symbol as well |
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for the four winds, I believe.
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:20 PM
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16. I see it every day here in GA. I saw a guy w/ a flag logo belt at the tire store today. |
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Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 02:20 PM by CottonBear
Heck, it's part of the Georgia flag. Frat boys, college graduates, poor working class folks, hunters, gun freaks and evangelical types all sport the flag in ways ranging from hats and clothing, accessories, tattoos, license plates, bumper stickers, business logos and actUAL flags flying at their homes, businesses and sometimes at their frat houses.
Ask any of these people what the flag means and they'll say it's "Southern heritage" but it really stands for racism. (I am a native Southerner by the way and I abhor the flag and its supporters.)
The "flaggots" in the state are mad at Governor Sonny Perdue because he wouldn't allow a vote on the flag issue (whether or not to go back to the racist 1950s flag)
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Thu Jan-10-08 02:20 PM
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17. South's gonna rise again baby!....n/t |
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