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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:47 AM Original message |
*** Official Senate Judiciary DOJ Hearing- #2 *** |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. Ted Kennedy up! |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Starts by thanking him for the few steps he HAS taken. . look out below! |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
3. Thanks Anna! |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
4. "like saying "you're opposed to theft, but not sure if bank robbery would qualify" |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
5. Answer is like saying stealing is illegal but not sure if a robbery should be prosecuted |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
6. CIA continues to use stress positions, sleep deprivation and thing the military won't |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
7. There are some PO'd Senators in the room |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:52 AM Original message |
"Would waterboarding be torture if it was done to YOU?" |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
8. K&R Thanks annabanana! |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. OMMFG! Mukasey is a supreme piece of shit |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #13 |
56. just another tool of the * regime. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #56 |
68. Nothing but....no different from Gonzales |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
9. I would "think" that it was. . . |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
10. Would waterboarding be torture if it was done to you? |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
11. Go Kennedy |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
12. Kennedy says |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
14. muk "there is a difference of opinion" |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. again "I can't answer BECAUSE I am the AG. . " |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
16. This guy has legal speak down to an artform. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
17. He can't answer, apparently, unless he is CURRENTLY being waterboarded! |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. (personally I say... let's get on that) |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
18. What circumstances would it be legal to WB |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
20. Can't tell our enemies what to expect... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
21. "We may not maim, we may not rape.. but waterboardingisn't on that list" |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. The Geneva Convention doesn't specifically mention beating people with |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
22. I'm livid! That groveling, cowardly, collaborationist in torture |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
43. WORSE! He ruled admissable torture obtained evidence leading to Padilla. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #43 |
51. I know, L. Coyote and you're right...worse...much worse |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
23. DHS received 1.4 million naturalization apps |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
24. Now asking about backlog in the naturalization of citizens.. who OUGHT to be |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
25. Rec #5 - Give it 5 more *** Kennedy getting to voting rights and naturalization |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
26. Homeland security now processing naturalizations papers |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
27. Grassley will be up next, then Biden. . |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
29. Grassley says he did not get answers to all his questions... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
30. Will I get these answers before a year has passed (#64-83 apparently) |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
31. I'm reminded of the "Greased Pig" contest at the country fair, an evasion game! |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
32. a question on whistleblowers... "they should be protected" |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
33. Asking for responses he asked for several months ago. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
34. What about "National Security" wistleblowers?. .individuals... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. (wait.. this isn't a sybil question is it?) |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
36. I'm going to need a shower after this...the slime oozing off Mukasey |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
37. You said that protections for NS whistleblowers are unconstitutional! |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. We NEED a secure venue for NS whistleblowers. . |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
39. Oh this IS a slippery damn answer.... |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
40. brings up whistleblowers situation. |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
41. brings up whistleblowers situation. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
42. A law that passed Congress unanimously isn't good enough for you? |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
44. "executive's right to suprevise his employees". . HEY They're OUR employees. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
45. oh my thanks for the reminder, just upset about my candidate |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
46. Grassley is being surprisingly tough... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
47. Biden up |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
48. This guy is a fascist pig. |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
49. OH NO, |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
50. Asking about Muk's methodology.. "Maybe I'm a little slow" - HA! |
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Irishonly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
52. He's been coached well |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. I am not too |
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Irishonly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #58 |
109. I hope you are right n/t |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:09 AM Original message |
Why is waterboarding a "relative" question?? and thumbscrews aren't? |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
53. Shit, my cspan stream went out. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
54. Biden!!!!! |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
55. "There IS a statute under which it IS a relative issue". . good god |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
57. "the cruelty vs the value" |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
59. So the "shocking of the conscious" IS a factor... |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
60. OK, back on now - phwew... |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Biden says shocking the conscience refers to civilized behavior. n/t |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
61. the costs...er...I meant... fucker |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
62. I've never heard of "shocking of the conscious" being tied to the info sought! |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Go BIDEN!! |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
64. I can't wait to see this transcript, balancing heniousness and value of torture!! |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
66. "I remember Cicero, too". . good on Biden! |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
67. Biden is ONE SMART COOKIE |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #67 |
72. I finally figured out Wash DC. The Corrupt Bastards Club vs. The Altar Boys |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Beautifully put! |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #72 |
89. Most likely why Biden does not LIVE in DC |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #72 |
95. sounds about right to me L Coyote. |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
69. Go Biden! |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
70. "Violent crime is down - your stripped down $ response is sufficient?" |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. please reconsider your response to my bill. . |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
73. LOL - you screwed me, now here I am.... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
74. Sessions up (ugh) |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
75. I'm going to the john & to fill up my coffee cup |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
77. Mary, mother of my friend Edmond, please someone smack Sessions |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Sessions is lying..that picture of the dead prioner in the used iced bags |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
78. this Mukasey is a slimy piece too. |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
79. Just tuned in... |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. he's a good guy. |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
81. Did sessions just basically get Muk to admit that the CIA has waterboarded in the past? |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #81 |
87. but that's their defense...it was the past... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #81 |
91. yes. yes he did. |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
83. Sessions is such a joke. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #83 |
86. we do torture, and the rest of world knows it. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
84. Can anyone youtube the Biden portion. Maybe TPM is on it. |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
85. Someone make it stop. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. aren't all the repigs delusional. |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #88 |
94. yes, they are. It seems to be a requirement for belief in their weird world view. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #85 |
92. A liar too |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
90. Can't listen to this guy anymore. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
93. Herb Kohl (D- Wisc) up |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
96. Funding of anti violence initiatives discussion |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
97. This guy is a slightly taller version of Gonzo. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #97 |
103. better spoken, smoother. . better at being slippery |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #103 |
108. you are right. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #97 |
104. This guy is just a new Greased Pig of larger stature with better grease |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #97 |
110. of course, these guys all signed the * loyalty act. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
98. TPM: Mukasey: CIA Tapes Investigation May Cover Interrogation Techniques |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
99. Should we close Guantanemo? - Yes, as long as we know how to deal |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
100. Looking for a *SUBSTITUTE* for Habeas Corpus?? |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #100 |
106. from the man who said torture could be constitutional under article 2 |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
101. the "President" has also said " we don't torture" |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
102. What to do with Gitmo? |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
105. I'll be going to bang my head into the wall now.. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
107. Thread #3 UP! |
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