"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?" McCain said at a GOP fund-raiser in Washington.

[ecstatic]

...only a few news outlets, like the Phoenix New Times in Arizona and the National Journal, have run an Associated Press story reporting McCain's 1998 joke suggesting that Chelsea Clinton was ugly and that Janet Reno and Hillary Clinton were lesbians.

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?" McCain said at a GOP fund-raiser in Washington. "Because Janet Reno is her father."

...

If McCain has had trouble keeping his story straight, he has enjoyed a charmed life with the national media. Besides largely ignoring McCain's anger issues, the media have run few details of McCain's bouts with malignant melanoma, a deadly form of cancer that can spread quickly throughout the body, and have rarely cited a litany of inappropriate comments by McCain over the years.

...


A July 5 NewsMax.com article quoted former Sen. Bob Smith, a New Hampshire Republican who served with McCain on the Senate Armed Services Committee, as saying, "I have witnessed incidents where he has used profanity at colleagues and exploded at colleagues . . . He would disagree about something and then explode. It was incidents of irrational behavior. We've all had incidents where we have gotten angry, but I've never seen anyone act like that."

...

Democrat Paul Johnson, the former mayor of Phoenix, saw McCain's temper up close. "His volatility borders in the area of being unstable," Johnson has said. ""Before I let this guy put his finger on the button, I would have to give considerable pause."

"I think he is mentally unstable and not fit to be president," former congressman LeBoutillier said.

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/8/30/123006.shtml

McCain is an ugly, mean, delusional old man with a bad temper. We need someone to act as a "gnat" and rile McCain into displaying his ugliness for the world to see.

[polichick]

1. OMG - he HAS lost it!! nt

[ecstatic]

8. Mind you, he said this while Chelsea was still a teen

I'm guessing she was no more than 18 years old at the time.

[polichick]

11. Oh - I guess he lost it a long time ago then!! lol

[zbdent]

17. and the MSM let the Bush twins slide (in fact, coming to their defense

where a restaurant could be federally charged for serving alcohol to minors) EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE OF LEGAL AGE PRIOR TO BUSH TAKING THE OATH OF OFFICE ...

[Vinca]

24. Chelsea got the best revenge - she turned into a major babe!

What a pig McCain is.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

34. Brilliant too -- she went to Stanford, and Oxford for grad school.

Wrote her thesis on her dad's handling of the Mideast peace process.

[teacher gal]

45. If I remember correctly

she was only junior high age. It was a cruel, inexcusable remark.

[Red Zelda]

2. Fuck this militaristic thug.

McInsane is a deranged dinosaur. His feeble brain is dangerous. We must do everything in our power to stop this demond old hag.

[RavensChick]

33. You got that right!

The most important thing we can do to stop this prick is VOTE!!!!! I want change just like the rest of America! If we get another 8 years of repugs I'm moving to Canada!

[bluedawg12]

53. We must not let this squirrel into the WH- vote,vote and

vote!

According to some polls this creep could win either dem match up- see other thread.

Cannot let him get there.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/2008_republican_presidential_primary

[bdamomma]

66. there is no way this man should be pResident, maybe

he should have a mandatory mental health assessment done, all of them should before taking office, never mind about physical.

[DesertFlower]

3. i thought it was rush limbaugh that made those

statements. called chelsea "the whitehouse dog".

McCain has referred to the vietnamese as "gooks". he also has a very bad temper. i heard he got so angry at a meeting that he "passed out".

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

4. Classy.

I can't believe I used to have a little bit of respect for that idiot (way, WAY back before the 2000 election, and before I found out who he really was)

[Xipe Totec]

5. This is McCain's idea of what's pretty

[OnionPatch]

28. I think we should all save a copy of this pic and pass it around.

It sums up McCain in one picture....an opportunistic ass-kisser. I'll be sending it around to everyone and putting it up everywhere.

[redwitch]

6. Paging Al Franken...

:-)

[Drunken Irishman]

7. I didn't take the joke as Hillary being a lesbian, more Reno being a man.

But either way, it's a horrible, hateful thing and McCain should be utterly ashamed of himself for speaking such vile trash.

Ugly, big-headed, skin-falling-off-face men should not trump the ugly card.

[xultar]

9. I can picture Hillary picking her teeth with his teeny weeny peeny right now.

[tularetom]

10. But Bill clinton said McCain and Hillary just love each other

and that a campaign between the two of them would be well, just a big fat love in.

This is why Hillary has to stop listening to Clinton. He's far too concerned with appearances and getting along with the people who, ironically, hate his guts.

[glarius]

12. He is smart enough to have figured out that if he welcomes the media and

always gives them some of his time and often a quote or two, he will get favourable coverage by them. Simple as that, in my opinion.
I personally can't stand the man and find him rather creepy.

[featherman]

13. This is true... and something everyone should remember

How could anybody vote for such a man... Chelsea was a teenager at the time... beyond disgusting

[LeftHander]

14. John McCain: Time's "Man of the Year"

Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran!

[Gato Moteado]

15. McPain had the nerve to call someone else ugly?

that guy's face is so assymetrical, he always looks like somebody just did the irish jig on his head. and what a tough guy to pick on a teenage girl.

ok.....let's see if the posturing DUers have the nuts to come after me when i say this yet again:
"republicans are human garbage!"

[ecstatic]

18. I firmly believe this little incident will be the end of McCain. No self respecting woman

will vote for a sleezebag who at the tender age of 61+ found it appropriate to take a jab at a young girl's looks. The women who would go for that type of thing are part of Bush's base of 28%, but those folks don't like McCain. He's finished.

[renate]

26. no self-respecting parent, for that matter

What kind of father (especially a father of daughters) would criticize a young girl's appearance ever, let alone in public.

I think you're right... this kind of thing leaves a nasty taste in the mouth and speaks volumes about the kind of person he is. And IMHO it would be okay to bring it up now, because Chelsea grew up to be gorgeous, so it'd really be talking about her as an abstraction, i.e., the growing-into-her-skin young girl that she was at the time--not as Chelsea herself.

[demigoddess]

41. no officer and a gentleman would either. My NCO dad had better manners than

that.

[Freddie Stubbs]

49. The end? He said this almost ten years ago

[NewJeffCT]

16. Speaking of anger - don't forget McCain's "gay sweater" comment

he supposedly got angry with some of his handlers wanting him to dress up in a sweater, so he made a comment about not wanting to wear a "gay sweater"

I guess a gay sweater is one that comes out of the closet, instead of a bureau?

[knitter4democracy]

61. Knitters had fun with that comment. I know we won't forget it.

What a stupid thing to say. It adds to the long list of stupid and crazy things he's said.

[MonkeyFunk]

19. Hillary should bring that up in a debate

against him if they're the nominees.

He'd have nothing to say - he'd be shut down, and she'd look like a strong lioness.

[stanwyck]

72. Now that would be a moment. Hillary asking

her opponent if it's presidential to refer to another person's child as ugly...and then repeat the "joke". I don't think America really wants the type of "ugly" John McCain represents. I've always found this story deeply unsettling. The idea of a man of his stature making such a degrading joke at the expense of an innocent (and completely wonderful) child.
It's indefensible.)

[VP505]

20. OK John,

Chelsey is ugly and your old, she can improve her looks but your still OLD, asswipe!

[Le Taz Hot]

62. I'm sorry, I have to interject.

Being old is not inherently a bad thing. Ours is the only country that discards its elderly and "wishes they would just die off." Absolutely disgusting. And it's "you're," not "your." :mad:

[Swamp Rat]

21. John McCain had a black baby and he's a traitor.

Thanks Karl. ;)

[Aristus]

22. Who's ugly????

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/01/28/chelsea29107_wideweb__470x390,0.jpg

OR




McCain, you fugly, droopy-dick fuckwad, you only think she's ugly because she's better than you. Light-years better...

[Le Taz Hot]

64. Intelligence is ALWAYS more attractive

because it transcends physical features.

[pauldg0]

23. Listen.........

I am a Edwards supporter, and that is crude.

I think she is a pretty young lady. Of a matter of fact I think Hillary is and was a nice looking woment.

Your a jerk!!

[paparush]

25. Chels is a Hottie eom

[OnionPatch]

27. She is NOT ugly!!

:wtf: Americans have become so freakin shallow, I can't take it anymore. Just because someone doesn't look like Brangelina, doesn't mean they're ugly! Chelsea is a nice looking woman, in fact, I myself, would call her "pretty." If McCain wants to see ugly, he need look no further than the mirror, or his heart.

[DiamondJay]

43. or Cindy Lou, who has had many, many facelifts

but cmon Chelsea WAS hideous and looked like the unpopular girl. But she is kind of cute now, sorry Rush Limbaugh caught her in the awkward teen stage. But also, who is McCain to make fun of adultery, thats the reason he got divorced from his first wife. I don't give a fuck if he served in the military, it doesn't mean he has anymore character than Bill Clinton. Not to mention McCain did it because he had his family's legacy. I bet he woudln't have even made USNA without John McCain II. He is a war hero, hero that is in keeping the war in Iraq going.

[morgan2]

29. judging the comment on purely a comedic basis

brilliant!

[Blue_Roses]

30. we shouldn't be fighting over our candidates when we have

this boring, over-rated, angst-ridden, out-dated guy who obviously continues to make crude and rude comments ...that's what he runs his campaign on since he is so out of touch.

I for one, cannot listen to him DRONE on and on for four years...can you?

[Zech Marquis]

31. Chelsea is no where near ugly

She was always cute as a young child, and she has certainly grown into quite a smart and beautiful woman in every single way.

[LanternWaste]

32. Ugly? I think not...

Ugly? I think not... let's try 'classy', 'dignified', 'attractive', even... But ugly? Only McCain's thought...

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/01/28/chelsea29107_wideweb__470x390,0.jpg

[LisaL]

38. And even if she wasn't. WTF says that about a teenager?

[Javaman]

35. Chelsy is very attractive, she just doesn't belong to the mortar and spackle crew

like mclames wife.

[Olney Blue]

36. McCain's campaign is NOT going to be a cake walk.

[calimary]

42. Gee - did somebody say "ugly"?

Hey folks, let's make sure we keep this nice picture handy, shall we?

Who's yer daddy, john? Kiss-kiss!

[timtom]

37. Actually, I think she has a classic beauty.

She just doesn't fall into line with the manufactured concept of beauty that has haunted us since the beginning of "Vogue"!

[WinkyDink]

39. Her looks aren't the issue, people! Stop the compliments! It's MCCAIN'S UTTER CRASSNESS.

Not to mention verbal child abuse.

[Postman]

40. McCain is a N-U-T. Period.

n/t

[Canuckistanian]

44. Sure, calling Chelsea "ugly" sure worked for Rush

It probably lead to the death of his TV show.

But a front-runner in a Republican campaign?

OK, maybe I shouldn't be so shocked.

[jmowreader]

46. Oh God, we're dredging THIS up?

That McCain has become Shrub's bestest buddy, that he's about as old as Reagan was when Ronnie was elected, and that he wants to leave the army in Iraq for...was it a thousand years?...are far more important reasons to work to keep him out of the Oval Office than that he told a joke targeting one of the Clintons. Beating up on Clintons--Bill, Hillary, Chelsea, even the cat--is what Republicans do. It's expected.

[stanwyck]

73. Why this is valid

A "joke" of this type has a visceral effect on decent people. It's base. He attacked a child he doesn't even know. A child. And he make this swaggering "joke" in front of his tribe. He's asking these adults to laugh at a child's physical appearance. This goes directly to character. This is not a light-hearted comment. It's a deeply ugly insult which resonates with our protective nature of the defenseless. We know the world isn't fair, but we fight for fairness. Who would want a leader this depraved?

[troubleinwinter]

47. Why the FUCK do you have to post ten year old shit on a thread title?

[1620rock]

48. Lest people forget.

[troubleinwinter]

51. I said, "thread title". No couth was shown. The point could have been made other than in the title

[troubleinwinter]

52. Like people here support McCain? We must post his ugly smears in titles as if we are freepers?

DUers are so unclever that they can't figure out a way to put this ugly quote into the body of a post instead of using it as a cheap catch to read a post? Must this shit be forever used against a person who was a child at the time? "Progressives" USE this as a come-on to get a post read?

[Djinn]

50. yes it's appalling for McCain to say that

and it's a 200 post thread of approval when someone here calls Ann Coulter ugly or a man, it's OK for people here to call the Bush twins sluts, Limbaugh fat and disgusting etc etc

In this thread there's abuse of McCain for being old and ugly and having a droopy dick

Hardly of import when you consider the nightmare of life in the US for the millions of working poor, or the nightmare of constant oppresion for anyone living anywhere the US views as strategically important.

Chelsea Clinton wasn't going to be winning any beauty contests in her youth - who fucking cares that somemone said so

Honestly if politically interested people are obsessing over handshakes and ten year old poor form jokes you absolutely DO deserve the shitty governments you've had for the last 100 years, unfortunately it's the rest of the world that suffers most and I doubt anyone currently living with a US military boot on their necks give a flying fuck that McCain thinks Chelsea Clinton is a fug.

[troubleinwinter]

56. I will print your post, transfer it to cloth, embroider it and hang it on my wall.

I use REAL nasty swear words. I say fuck and shit.

But I don't use name-calling or slurs against anyone. I call them republicans or bush or the president. I abhore 'repigs', 'repukes', etc. I don't call Coulter anything. I call no one fat or droopy or smelly or ugly or old. It gets us nothing and makes us look stupid and juvenile.

I still will say fuck often, as in, "I am so FUCKING FED UP!". Cuz I get fucking fed up.

I must be off to my embroidery project now!

[NewJeffCT]

69. There is a difference, though, Chelsea Clinton was a child in 1998

Ann Coulter, Limbaugh, McCain and the Bush sisters are all adults. The Bush sisters have been involved in several embarrassing incidents as well.

Chelsea Clinton was a child and has done nothing to warrant that sort of attack.

You're right that it doesn't amount to a hill of beans when compared to almost 50 million uninsured, millions struggling in low paying jobs, etc, etc. However, it does give insight into what sort of person is John McCain that he would stoop to picking on a teenage girl.

[Djinn]

70. so if Chelsea had "embarassed"

herself it'd be OK to call her ugly, or a slut?

You're theory gives anyone the right to slag off anyone as long as they have "embarrassed" themselves.

Just admit it - it's JUST as puerile when lefties do it.

[Jacobin]

74. I don't think the government has been bad for the past 100 years

FDR was a great president.

I'll grant you that the last 7 years have seemed like 100, though

[Eurobabe]

54. He was a DICK in 1998, and is even MORE unstable now

Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. There will be many more wars. Someone needs to compile all the off-the-wall comments this old curmudgeon has said since the 90s. And circulate it on the internets.

:grr:

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[VotesForWomen]

57. what a dick; that's a little refresher for those who forgot what the clintons went through for 8 yea

years, and blame them for 'not doing more for progressives.'

[OneBlueSky]

58. so he's not only stupid, he's also blind . . . just what this country needs . . .

:sarcasm:

[Rose Siding]

59. I can understand Hillary being cordial to him in public,

or to work with him on legislation when possible, but I've always been puzzled by the reports of them having an actual friendly relationship. Bill C even advanced that impression recently.

I can't relate, no matter when it happened. McC was obviously willing to pander to donors by smearing their child for money. My unhappy conclusion is that they have a shared recognition (and exceptence) of being willing to say just about anything in politics.

He must have apologized at some point and maybe HC just has a Mother Theresa-like ability to forgive that isn't otherwise evident, but I still wonder how that works in her relationship with her daughter. Family first and all, you know?

[raccoon]

60. Even if she were ugly, this remark shows McCain to be a mean-spirited asshole

to be making such a remark about a child.

[bdamomma]

63. that is really rude comment, this man has no business

being president.

[Bigmack]

65. I remember that "joke"....

and I prefer to remember what Dumbya's goons did to McCain in S.C. in 2000. Now that's funny.

Here's a nice review.....

FACT SHEET: at

http://www.bartcopnation.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=522

Bush Waged Nasty Smear Campaign Against McCain in 2000
Bush Supporters Called McCain “The Fag Candidate.” In South Carolina, Bush supporters circulated church fliers that labeled McCain “the fag candidate.” Columnist Frank Rich noted that the fliers were distributed “even as Bush subtly reinforced that message by indicating he wouldn’t hire openly gay people for his administration.”

McCain Slurs Included Illegitimate Children, Homosexuality And A Drug-Addict Wife.
Among the rumors circulated against McCain in 2000 in South Carolina was that his adopted Bangladeshi daughter was actually black, that McCain was both gay and cheated on his wife, and that his wife Cindy was a drug addict.”

Bush Campaign Used Code Words to Question McCain’s Temper.
“A smear campaign of the ugliest sort is now coursing through the contest for the presidency in 2000. Using the code word "temper," a group of Senate Republicans, and at least some outriders of the George W. Bush campaign, are spreading the word that John McCain is unstable. The subtext, also suggested in this whispering campaign, is that he returned from 5 1/2 years as a POW in North Vietnam with a loose screw. And it is bruited about that he shouldn't be entrusted with nuclear weapons.”

Bush Supporters Questioned McCain’s Sanity.
“Some of George W. Bush's supporters have questioned Republican presidential candidate John McCain's fitness for the White House, suggesting that his five years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam drove him insane at the time.”

Bush Supporters Spread Racist Rumors About McCain’s Daughter.
Bush supporters in South Carolina made race-baiting phone calls saying that McCain had a “black child.” The McCains’ daughter, Bridget, was adopted from Mother Teresa’s orphanage in Bangladesh. In August 2000, columnist Maureen Dowd wrote that the McCains “are still seething about Bush supporters in South Carolina spreading word of their dark-skinned adopted daughter.”

Rove Suggests Former POW McCain Committed Treason and Fathered Child With Black Prostitute.
In 2000, McCain operatives in SC accused Rove of spreading rumors against McCain, such as “suggestions that McCain had committed treason while a prisoner of war, and had fathered a child by a black prostitute,” according to the New Yorker.

After Rove Denied Role In McCain Whisper Campaign, Reporters Concluded He Was Behind It.
A December 1999 Dallas Morning News linked Rove to a series of campaign dirty tricks, including his College Republican efforts, allegedly starting a whisper campaign about Ann Richard being too gay-friendly, spreading stories about Jim Hightower’s involvement in a kickback scheme and leaking the educational history of Lena Guerrero. The article also outlined current dirty tricks and whisper campaigns against McCain in South Carolina, including that “McCain may be unstable as a result of being tortured while a prisoner of war in North Vietnam.” (DMN, 12/2/99) After the article was published, Rove blasted Slater in the Manchester, NH airport, “nose to nose” according to one witness, with Rove claiming Slater had “harmed his reputation,” Slater later noted. But according to one witness, “What was interesting then is that everyone on the campaign charter concluded that Rove was responsible for rumors about McCain.”

Rove Was In Close Touch With McConnell, McCain-Feingold’s Chief Opponent.
Senior White House adviser Karl Rove was in close contact with Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY) during McConnell’s effort to fight the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Bill in the U.S. Senate. According to Newsweek, though Rove and Bush have publicly kept their distance from McConnell on the issue, “sources tell Newsweek that Rove is, in fact, in close touch with McConnell as GOP experts study the bill for hidden land mines.”

Bush Campaign Accused of Using Push Polls Against McCain.
College of Charleston student Suzette Latsko said she received a telephone call from a woman who identified herself as an employee of Voter/Consumer Research, and that the caller misrepresented McCain’s positions and asked if Latsko knew McCain had been reprimanded for interfering with federal regulators in the savings and loan scandal. Voter/Consumer Research is listed as a polling contractor on Bush’s Federal Election Commission filings; the Bush campaign has paid Voter/Consumer Research $93,000 through December 31, 1999. Bush spokesman Ari Fleischer denied the call was a push poll, but said it was important that the Republican Party remember McCain’s role in the S&L crisis.

Bush Campaign Acknowledged Making Phone Calls.
Tucker Eskew, Bush’s South Carolina spokesman, acknowledged the Bush campaign made such calls, but claimed they were not “push polls.” Eskew added, “Show me a baseless comment in those questions.”

Bush Used Fringe Veterans Group to Attack McCain as “Manchurian Candidate.”
“In the case of Ted Sampley, the same guy who did Bush's dirty work in going after Sen. John McCain in the 2000 Republican primaries is doing the job against Kerry this year. Sampley dared compare McCain, who spent five years as a Vietnam POW, with ‘the Manchurian Candidate.’”

Sampley Called McCain a “Coward” and a Traitor.
“Sampley… accused McCain of being a weak-minded coward who had escaped death by collaborating with the enemy. Sampley claimed that McCain had first been compromised by the Vietnamese, then recruited by the Soviets.”

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

67. Somehow, this photo has to be used against him

[WinkyDink]

68. PRINT IT. DISTRIBUTE IT.

[Mountainman]

71. Newsmax? Attacking a wingnut? I don't get it.

[Mendocino]

75. Hey John, picking on young girls...

...now you, Rush, and Karl Rove have a common interest. Or do you just crap on women in general? Should we ask your first wife?

[Fleshdancer]

76. Your subject line has been my sig line for the past few weeks

Had he insulted Bill, I would have rolled my eyes and shrugged it off, but he didn't. He chose to go after Bill's child instead. I can forgive several character flaws in a President, but this isn't one of them.

[treestar]

77. Why is John McCain so ugly?

Haven't even checked out his wife and kids.

I mean is there really anything like the right wing for irrelevancy?

And Chelsea Clinton turned out to be pretty damn good looking. Those who are beautiful in the preteens usually aren't the same ones who are beautiful when older.

But John McCain is ugly, inside and out, all the time.