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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:31 PM
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No offense against those very nice polite young LDS men....
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 05:31 PM by Virginia Dare
but just why in the name of sense would I a middle-aged college-educated lady like myself discuss with a couple of pimply faced 18 year old strangers who show up uninvited at my door, my religious tendencies or lack thereof? Does this crap actually work?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:34 PM
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1. It works, that's why they do it.
They get far more rejections and door slams, but they find some willing.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:34 PM
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2. "Does this crap actually work?"
It must, fastest growing religion in the world.

But then again, Amway was still in business the last I heard.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:46 PM
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7. Amway sure is. Offshored a lot of it, though.
Thanks, DeVos. :eyes: Republican, of course, and wants to run for president someday.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:35 PM
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3. Maybe they feel if they get one out of a hundred, it's worth it.
It is amazing that they really think that a stranger will discuss such things with them; however, it must work with a minority of people, or they wouldn't do it.

I'm just shaking my head; my husband just tells them, "I'm not interested."
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:52 PM
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11. I guess it's like playing the slots...n/t
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:36 PM
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4. I really need to get my eyes checked. I read "LSD men"
I knew a girl once who became Jehovah's Witness thanks to a band of merry men working her neighborhood. It didn't last long with her though. I think she was out of it within a few weeks.

I think it's like most sales, you have to hit the right person at just the right time, with the right product to make a sale. When what you're selling is religion, I imagine the return rate could be pretty high since no penalty for regretting an impulse buy after the fact.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:48 PM
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8. The penalty is eternal damnation, donch know.
The just reward from a loving god.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:55 PM
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13. Obviously I'm a pretty tough sale
That aspect didn't even occur to me. :P

Of course it would to others though. I just failed to consider it.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:36 PM
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5. You never make a sale staying at home!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:38 PM
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6. I really think the LDS church puts them in danger doing that.
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 05:40 PM by Cleita
I'm not proud of this but I purposely let the dogs bark at them so they don't go further than the gate when they approach our property. It does get rid of them and I know our dogs won't attack them, but yet I wonder what kind of trouble they could find elsewhere. I wouldn't let any children of mine do door to door proselytizing.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:54 PM
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12. I agree..
there are some psychos out there, but I guess that's why they travel in pairs. Normally I would have set the dogs on them, but I was expecting someone around that time, so I unwittingly opened the door.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:49 PM
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9. They ran my wife right out of Wyoming, and me by default.
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 05:51 PM by Texas Explorer
They just would not lay off their bullshit and leave us alone. Then, when I told them I'd rather join a satanic cult, they gave us the silent treatment and made us feel unwelcome.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:55 PM
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14. That's a good one..
we had to get downright rude to some very nice old ladies who were Jehovah's Witnesses. My husband was nice and polite to them the first time they showed up, so of course they were encouraged and kept coming back. I hated telling them to fuck off, but what else do you do?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:25 PM
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19. My friend's husband answered the door with a beer & a cigarette ..in his BVDs..they did not return
:rofl:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:49 PM
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10. i think there mission is considered a success if they get a single convert
My father's great uncle was the second longest serving president of the Church and spent 3 years in Japan on mission and did not get a single convert - long ago our family was linked to Young and Bennett families (incl first mayor of salt lake city) but have no mormon members in our family now. The greatest growth in the LDS church is in Latin American and in 10 years most LDS members will be native spanish speakers.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:17 PM
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17. That's interesting information.
I had read that was the trend (increasing membership outside of the country).

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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:53 AM
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27. That varies widely
My mission was like that, because I went to Rome, Italy, which at the time was one of the slowest/hardest in the world. But there are a lot of others that are not like that. A friend served in the Las Vegas mission, and his consistently had some of the highest numbers in the world. He said, believe it or not, that the Salt Lake area had a higher baptism rate.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:58 PM
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15. It works the other way, too. I put on my shiny self and tell them
I'm a very happy atheist and wish them a great day.

lol
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:00 PM
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16. I know. I've asked them that and asked to be put on their "do not contact" list.
I realize that a way to really understand your beliefs is to talk with strangers about them, but I don't want to. They have a list they are supposed to put you on, good for a yr or 2 or some such.
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:05 PM
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30. That depends, too.
Missionaries are supposed to have an "area book" with notes on people they've contacted. If your set are good record keepers, they'll make a note of your request and stay away for years. If you have slackers who forget to write it down, the next set might come back because they don't know.

A good area book would be detailed and say things like...
123 Main St. No one home.
127 Main St. not interested, do not contact
131 Main St. REALLY NOT INTERESTED, REALLY DON'T CONTACT
137 Main St. Young woman, small children, said to come back in evening when husband home...etc.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:20 PM
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18. I want to drag them in and espouse MY views sometime
I will probaby never do so...but I have always wanted to say "Oh good glad you are here, come right in!" and then once they are in my house I will proceed to rant and rave at them with MY views about politics and religion the stupidity of people who force their opinions on others etc etc--I will not allow them to talk and I will foist assorted reading materials on them about bush/the GOP etc.

As it is I just say, I am not even remotely interested in any of this so please don't stop here again--of course they typically just send a different team 6 months later to bother me again.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:41 PM
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21. I did that once with the wife of a Mormon couple I was
working with up in Idaho. I decided to play with her head for awhile and told her all about my belief in faeries and that God is really a goddess that's a Trinity (I read a lot of mythology) and I just went on and on as if those were my core beliefs. When I do this with my fellow Catholics and Protestants, they turn from me in disgust and tell me how I'm thinking "magically" or they get it that I'm having some fun with them.

Well, this lady got right on board with me and told me that she believed God did have a wife who was a goddess in herself and a myriad of beings that could be my faeries. I was the one who was dumbstruck this time. So be careful. You might find yourself in a strange conversation.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:43 AM
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25. LOL! LOL! Thanks for the warning!
That is just too hilarious!

I will definitely keep this in mind, before I haul any watchtower people into the house...that honestly sounds like something that would happen to me! lol
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:32 PM
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20. When you buy a hair dryer...
there's a label on it that says "don't use in the shower." Why, you ask? Because there's some really stupid people out there.

Knowing that, you actually don't believe that there's people that can be persuaded by a couple of pimply-faced LDS youths?
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Dawggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:52 PM
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22. Here in the SE I get little blue haired ladies coming to door wanting to "witness" and invite me to
their church.

I wish they were 18 year olds as I could hhave a lot more fun with them without feeling guilty. as it is, I just have to nicely say "thanks for checking, but no thanks."
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:57 PM
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23. I've heard they can be persistent
I told a couple of those guys I was spiritual--not religious--and starting questioning them about those famous gold plates.

They never returned.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:05 PM
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24. It must, because they keep it up
I have to say though, that they've always been really polite. So I don't mind. In fact, they usually look relieved when I say "no thanks".
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:46 AM
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26. I've been an LDS missionary...
Although I was a pimply faced young woman, and 3/4ths of the way college eduated, but I can tell you, that going door to door is generally considered a last ditch effort. It's about the least effective way of finding interested people, so the mission leadership encourages other ways first. Generally, missionaries are encouraged first to work with part-member families, for instance where one spouse is LDS and the other not. Getting members to introduce you to their friends who have questions is another good way.

We pretty much went door to door if we had a cancellation, or just a few minutes before our next appointment, or it was pouring down rain we might find a tall building to work so we could be indoors. We did meet an interesting set of people that way, though...lonely old people, pervy fat men who answered the door in bikini underwear, prostitutes "on the job", and a young woman who told us she speaks to dead people. :silly:
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:53 AM
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28. It's getting as bad a political canvassers.
It's getting as bad a political canvassers. Well, not quite that bad-- but I'm sure it will be soon...
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:58 AM
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29. I like this guy
his take on the whole thing really cracks me up! :rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fic56JN7aIw
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