Jackpine Radical
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:03 PM
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This may come as a shock to some of you, but I suspect that there is a chance... |
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that the Republicans may not play fair in the November election.
They might, like, say bad things about our candidate--things that aren't entirely accurate.
Also, the media may just find their candidates more exciting, admirable and personable than ours, and want to share their enthusiasm with the public by putting out good stories about the good guys--them--and bad stories about the bad guys--us.
Could be that some voting machines will malfunction too, and just by chance they may favor Republican candidates.
And another thing--in their zealous efforts to keep people from voting when they shouldn't, the Republicans may occasionally--purely accidentally--exclude someone from voting who should not be excluded. And, wonder of wonders, the excluded persons may tend to have dark skins or come from poor districts or things like that.
Now of course any events like these totally hypothetical scenarios I just dreamed up are improbable in the extreme.
But just to cover all our bases, do we have any contingency plans about these wildly demented speculations of mine?
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:04 PM
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1. Do we have any contingency plans ? |
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:07 PM
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3. Yes, the contingency plan involves finding a cave and HIDING. |
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Preferably on another continent with friendly natives who can show you how to survive on roots and rocks. BHN
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:19 PM
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13. You HOPE so......Is that a pun about Sen. Obama? |
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:42 PM
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17. excuse me? did I accidently slip into GD-P? |
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:05 PM
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2. With GHW's public endorsement of McCain- I'd say there is MORE than a chance. |
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I'd say it's a foregone conclusion. BHN
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:07 PM
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4. Poppy ensured the funding and slime today. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:14 PM
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10. Poppy announced the powers that be intentions to crown McCain their next puppet. |
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Make no mistake about it. And, like I said upbthread- be mindful that McCain will enter office with ALL the Hitlerian powers that Bush signed into executive order- It will then officially be past time to get the fuck out of this country.
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:07 PM
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5. My Plan...vote for Hillary...solves problem... |
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They been attacking her for years...most Americans know the line and will get sick of it...so they had to create someone else...Obama fits perfectly...new, fresh...but they have someone new to destroy...after creating him...
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:09 PM
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8. And that would be because Holbrooke and Albright are advising her? |
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BIG change, huh?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Lord, I wish I could believe as you do. Hang onto it as long as you can.
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:19 PM
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14. I still have my hope for a real future...not one with a false prophet! |
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:22 PM
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15. Do you know WHO the players behind the curtains are? |
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Methinks not. As I said- hold onto the optimism as long as you can. Ignorance IS bliss these days. BHN
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:37 PM
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16. unfortunately, yes...and it's not us...we're just chattle to them... |
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and all these primaries are just distractions for the masses...
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Tue Feb-19-08 10:40 PM
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19. Chattle and Delusion- exactly. |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 10:53 PM by BeHereNow
AS IF the powers that be are going to allow anyone who will not further their agenda to take power. The belief in that possibility is unbelievably naive to me.
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:08 PM
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6. I don't trust the Republicans. You are correct, sir. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:09 PM
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7. never, ever underestimate the republicans. nt |
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:10 PM
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9. Overwhelming friggin landslide is our only hope... |
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Take the day off and vote no matter what. Parrallel elections would be cool too...
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:15 PM
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11. Maybe someone who knows politics, Chicago-style, |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 09:16 PM by sandnsea
would have an idea or two. Hillary hasn't done a damn thing about voter suppression, disenfranchisement, or the media for the last 15 years.
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:16 PM
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12. Sharpen the pitchforks, light the torches??? |
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Wed Feb-20-08 08:35 AM
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30. Damn. I'm glad you said that. |
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I thought it was Sharpen the Torches, Light the Pitchforks. No wonder my attempts at fomenting a Jacquerie have never gone quite right.
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Wed Feb-20-08 10:52 AM
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33. Right. Teach revolt in public schools. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:47 PM
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18. No problem! We'll just dust off the plans from 2000 and 2004! |
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Tue Feb-19-08 10:47 PM
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20. Ah, now you're just talkin' crazy |
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But you're right about the Republicans talking bad about our candidate, and some (all) of them may not be entirely true. Which is something I hope folks bear in mind this summer.
I do think we're better organized this time around, and the rapid response to disparagement by both the Obama and Clinton campaigns is encouraging.
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Tue Feb-19-08 10:48 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:00 PM
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I tried to break it gently.
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Tue Feb-19-08 10:49 PM
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22. Well as long as they don't lockdown a critical counting station |
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in a key state...not like that could happen.
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Tue Feb-19-08 10:55 PM
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23. They're kicking Democrats off of voting rolls and vote caging like crazy. |
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My contingency plan is to keep pointing this out over and over and come June to actively recruit people to work election protection and to train voters to defend their votes. I have no idea if that will be enough.
We know where they will try to steal.
Whe know who they will try to steel from.
We see it coming a mile away.
What else do we need to know? :)
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:02 PM
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25. You're assuming they are still organized |
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They are in disarray. They will attack like a rabid animal. True, they will lash out aggressively. Yes, they will froth at the mouth. But they are also disoriented, easy to catch, and aimlessly wandering about looking for a place to die a deluded death.
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:22 PM
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27. They are very organized when it comes to election fraud. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:27 PM
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28. No one will commit fraud for an obvious loser |
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Why risk jail time when there is no longer adequate protection from the top dogs?
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:31 PM
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29. Two reasons. (And I agree that the Republic candidate this year |
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is on a suicide mission.)
But, information has been surfacing that Democrats are being kicked off of voter rolls and that vote caging operations are in full swing all over the country. So, I'm assuming 1) They are thinking ahead and building a "profile" up in swing states and 2) they are thinking about down ticket races, i.e., Senate seats and House races.
Nobody is doing this for McCain or whoever. But the machine is in full swing for the party interests.
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Wed Feb-20-08 08:36 AM
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31. Well, since when has GWB not been an obvious loser? |
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Or Reagan, for that matter. They have a knack for turning sows' ears into dismal Presidents.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:39 PM
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39. Election fraud is their main goal |
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and if you cannot believe that... I don't know how we can convince you otherwise
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:21 PM
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26. truthfully, I don't see the republican machine busting ass for MCcain |
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I think they WANT to lose..and then hope that all the dominos topple during a democratic administration...then they roar back with a vengeance in '12 with the Jebster or Romney..
There's a whoile bunch more shit about to roll downhill, and I'm not so sure they want any chance of being blamed..
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Wed Feb-20-08 08:38 AM
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32. In my darker moments, I often entertain exactly that thought. |
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And these days, I have a LOT of dark moments.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:05 AM
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35. you can count on it getting ugly |
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It always has and always will . I don't think people have seen anything yet .
Another thing is there is a party split in the Dem party , This is where all the bashing from both sides did not help things .
You have to know there will be some voters who will either not vote or vote against their own party strictly out of revenge .
There are twice as many dem voters so it has been said but with these primaries and caucus who can really tell when there are independants and repuds voting dem .
It's a pretty screwed up deal this time around .
Add to this the black box machines are still out there in many areas as well as Rove and many others who do not want things to change . And you have the corporate owned media who have destroyed all other good dem candidates .
Plus there is still almost a year left of the bush /cheney machine ramping up yet another attack .
I heard Scott Ritter on the Malloy show last night and you can't count this out from what he had to say .
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:28 PM
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36. Support the election integrity group of your choice with some $$ now. |
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Folks are giving hundreds of millions to the campaigns, with nary a cent to the election integrity groups who are doing their best to organize now to protect the election as best we can.
So -- give at little something money-wise to Election Integrity now, especially if you can't give time. The smaller groups and especially the state-level groups need support, ASAP.
Do it now. Don't wait until next December.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:35 PM
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hey everybody. conspiracy nut!
our contingency is to lose again. then a few of us will scream ourselves hoarse, while most of us shout "conspiracy nut!" and make sure that nothing changes before the 2010 midterms. "elected" "democrats" certainly won't do anything.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:38 PM
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38. If 2004 is any guide, we will fold |
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most like to forget that Gore fought all the way to the USSC (Bush V Gore decision of December 12, 2000 the day the country died)
But in 2004 there was no fight, as far as we could tell
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