Honesty.. that's the "real" issue.

[walldude]

You know, I read much about how this or that is the most important issue. I beg to differ. At this point in time honesty is what we need. Honesty is the basic issue. Look at how many web sites there are devoted to seeking the truth. Boy we could save a lot of time and energy if politicians weren't so full of shit. Imagine what could be accomplished if we could spend time solving problems instead of trying to figure out who's telling the truth about the problem.
I see threads about how the GOP attack machine is going to be in full gear once our candidate is chosen. Digging up the hidden dirt. Well, if our candidate is honest then there won't be much hidden dirt. We have come to accept lying as a standard way of life, especially lying politicians. Hell we even have a TV show devoted to giving money to people who lie their asses off and don't get caught. I don't have all the answers, but I might be able to get them if I knew the truth. Too bad the idea of honesty has become "quaint".

[Wiley50]

1. Honestly, I Think You're Right n/t

[annabanana]

2. "Honesty" is ridiculed and derided in those circles....

People who are working for "GOod GOvernment" are called "goo-goo types".. This is the scorn they hold for people who actually CARE.

[ArfDogMNO]

3. If you look for Honesty in a Politician, expect surprises.

Seriously, we now have 2 career politicians (McCain (R - Keating five) and Obama) and a career power-hunger schemer who essentially used her husband's position (president) to get priority on an open senate seat in a democrat-voting state she had never lived in since she could not have won against an incumbent in a place she had actually lived.

Honesty from any of these clowns?

[Mezzo]

4. "democrat" voting state.

IC.

IC U

[ArfDogMNO]

5. Are you being a spelling cop or is this humor? Do you believe in honesty in a politician?

[Mezzo]

6. I am pointing out the m.o. of a republican troll in ANY site.

saying "Democrat Party" instead of "Democrat-IC Party". It's an old Republican slur.

so IC (read...."I see") ICU (read, "I see you")

see how tidy brevity can be?

[ArfDogMNO]

10. you gotta be kidding

I have seen oddities, but using spelling police tactics as ad hominem attacks is among the more paranoid. Not all of us went to the special school where the adjective form of the party Democrat was taught.

I despise the GOP, and am amazed you don't see that the DNC and GOP are 90% the same, with some social issues and some relatively small foreign policy differences to keep the population under the impression it makes a difference which bunch of globalists get in office.

Wake up. The whole presidential slate (gop/dnc) is a bunch of globalists/free-traders/fortune 100-friendlies. The fight is over which senator's political party and machine control the punch bowl the next 4 years, who gets their next campaign financed by china (clinton has a head start on this with mr. hsu, but I believe both parties are dirty), and who gets to have their own charitable trust slush fund for 100 MILLION dollar payoffs!

Or maybe you will find that honest soul in one of these candidates /sarcasm

I will go a step further - read through my post history. If you are able to be objective, you will see i don't like ANY politician of any party. I consider myself a realist. Have you ever heard the expression "meet the new boss, same as the old boss?"

[Mezzo]

11. not really kidding at all...

and while you go into a pretty long history, I find it odd that you haven't heard that before.

There's no need to be offensive. I was just letting you know what was up.

Calm down

[ArfDogMNO]

12. otoh, care to respond to any of my views?

My post was about more than knowing secret DU code!

[Mezzo]

14. well it's not really DU code...

it's real life code. And I think some of your views come across to me as a bit extreme.

But I am battle worn

[ArfDogMNO]

15. can you answer in specific

on issues such as globalism as a mind-set of all 3 candidates, the influence of foreign money in our political system (I consider it obviously bi-partisan given how the cox report was not pursued), the role multinationals have in dictating trade and other policies, and finally why a GOP candidate who raised more money in q4 than any other gop candidate was minimized by the media, and got not an iota of positive coverage? I don't agree with many of ron paul's views, but the fact he was so minimized despite clear popular interest says the media actively pruned/worked to alter the end final candidates.

All are globalists. Topics including corporate tax policies, trade policies, and our policies towards our main banker, china, are not even being mentioned. Don't you consider this a major issue, compared to the social fad of the day which divides gop/dnc voters?

[Mezzo]

16. No

what part of battle worn don't you understand?

[ArfDogMNO]

17. lol given your correction of my use of democratic,

maybe battle-worn should be hyphenated? If this is the level of conversation that is available, I can help.

/semi-humor

[kentuck]

7. To thine own self be true...

If we cannot be honest with ourselves, then who can we be honest with? Is honesty really that difficult to discover and define? As ol' Doc Watson says, "If you want a good cool drink of water, you gotta dig a little deeper in the well..."

[TahitiNut]

8. For many, being "realistic" is synonymous with being dishonest.

That's a fact. After all, truth is the first casualty of war. Professional politicians operate as though they're at war. That's why it's so easy for them to behave the way they do.

IMHO, of course. :shrug: YMMV

[lonestarnot]

9. Ain't that the troof!

:toast:

[NoBushSpokenHere]

13. They should have to take a polygraph to run for office..nt