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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:16 PM Original message |
Price of gas causing truckers to start parking their rigs |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. Look For Barge Traffic to Pick Up in a Big Way |
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donco (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. O.......barge delivery ,ok. nt |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
93. Intermodal (rail, barge, truck, etc.) was largely sacrificed to the Highway Lobby. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #93 |
130. The highway lobby? When in the 50's and 60's when the interstates |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. Actually it can work. You are not thinking it through |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. So we should tear up our highways and streets |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #133 |
166. Congestion charges. Tear up and *NARROW* the streets. Build Transit. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #166 |
167. Been to Zermatt. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #167 |
174. But it suggests another way we could live. |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 05:09 AM Response to Reply #174 |
186. Oh sure. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 07:21 AM Response to Reply #186 |
190. If your offered the choice of that or starvation, you may lose your sarcastic attitude. |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #190 |
192. It don't work that way Tesha. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. Not good at all.The gov't goes out of its way to subsidize a lot of |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. but most of these guys are owners/operators, they are self employed and pay all their bills |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. No reason not to help them out, especially if their situation will have a bearing on the economy |
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fed-up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. the Oil Company execs and stockholders should help them out/not taxpayers nt |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. That works, but you know it would still have to be the gov't to force them to do it. No way |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
94. How 'bout if they spend all day listening to Right Wing talk radio and voting Republican? |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. "Most of these guys"? As in most of the guys mentioned in the article? Or most truckers? |
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Mugu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
49. These trucks are causing global climate change. |
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liberal4truth (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 03:18 AM Response to Reply #49 |
64. So are the millions of humans born each year. Whatever happened to "population control"? |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 03:20 AM Response to Reply #49 |
65. Right, so how so do you get the goods you need to live without trucks? |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #65 |
95. Trucks are fine for local delivery, but do the long-haul shipping via rail and barge. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. The railroads do not go everywhere, all deliveries are local |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Railroads used to, and still go many places, and will go everywhere again. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. No, (lack of) customer demand caused this country to abandon the railroads |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #100 |
120. Rail is not the magic answer |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #120 |
127. Cheap isn't the only term in the equation...quick is a bigger one to many people. |
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liberal4truth (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 03:29 AM Response to Reply #49 |
69. I guess you dont like to eat or wear anything, do you? No Trucks=No Full Stores. |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. and the dumb piece of crap in the white house |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. Fuel prices are going to be a much bigger issue |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
6. They should park them in the middle of the fucking freeway. |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Oh, that will please people no end. How long do they park there? |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Shut the fucking place down until somebody fixes it. Park right in the fucking middle. |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Ah, yes. Shut the fucking country down. And who is this mysterious "somebody" |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. No one said anything about putting oil in any holes. Just shut this shit down until |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Your solution is horses, mules and buggies? |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. I haven't heard you offer a fucking solution and you're too much of a chickenshit to |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #37 |
51. I can drive a "rig" if I want to. I don't. Meanwhile, how does parking yours in the middle |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #51 |
86. I know an even better place for a rig at this moment in time. |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Tell your uncle dad I said hi. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #88 |
137. your motherfucking head. |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #137 |
148. Pardon me, I had you confused with somebody with a brain. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #148 |
149. Wish I had heard you the first time mm. |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
48. It's what they would do in France |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. The republicans are responsible for plenty of shit without blaming the consumption of gas |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #54 |
145. Gas when Clinton left office: $1.47 |
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liberal4truth (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 03:25 AM Response to Reply #28 |
68. Just think: we could have all those truckers making horsewhips again... |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 06:41 AM Response to Reply #25 |
74. WHat is the average airspeed velocity of a laden budgie? |
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BelgianMadCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:36 AM Response to Reply #74 |
80. European or African budgie? |
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Popol Vuh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 06:45 AM Response to Reply #25 |
75. Actually that's fucking brilliant |
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newfie11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
168. Hey I have horses and mules I will sell. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #15 |
91. That's such a French thing to do! |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #10 |
83. Henry David Thoreau's 'Civil Disobedience' would be a good primer |
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windbreeze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
85. The time to park them trucks is NOW!! |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 02:17 AM Response to Reply #6 |
62. No, park them in front of oilmen's offices. |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #62 |
119. Why would you suggest they park in front of this building? |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 03:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
63. Now that would be a powerfull statement |
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liberal4truth (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 03:23 AM Response to Reply #6 |
67. Yeah, that way when you go shopping, the shelves will be bare because no one trucked it in. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #67 |
92. No sacrifice for change? Is that what you are saying? There are other ways of transporting goods |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
8. I think they all should just pull their truck out on the highways and park them |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. What would be a fair price for gas (or diesel)? |
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spag68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. gas prices |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. I'm very much aware of the factors that make up the price of hydrocarbons... |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:21 AM Response to Reply #19 |
77. You were in the oil industry? |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #77 |
90. Still am. I worked my butt off in the oil fields since I was in junior high school |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #90 |
107. Thanks.I appreciate it. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. He had that coming too him. |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. Did you buy stock in an o factory? |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. Your latte would be cold too. |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. !!111!11! OMFG!11!!1CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!11! |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. I'm just not very happy to be thought of as some asshole because of what I do for |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Its not so much what you do |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. The California electric thing was pretty significant but it was far from global, like the oil |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #118 |
124. The volvo comment |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #124 |
126. Okay I can see that but I actually do drive Volvos (2 of them, 1 is 26 years old) |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. Volvo makes a good car |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. I have problems with it too. I've posted a few times that I think we are crazy to NOT have been |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #129 |
134. Fusion is easier than you think |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. Actually, I'm familiar, somewhat, with the Broussard claims - I put them in the 'perpetual motion' |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. Here we go with the gas prices are too low argument again |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Deleted message |
liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. You had to twist it didn't you |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. Apparently twisting in the wind. I wouldn't waste my breath if I were you. |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #32 |
50. Well, nobody has managed to explain how shutting down the roadways will help to solve the problem. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #50 |
171. Well if they are shut down on the fucking highway which causes others to not use the hw, then there |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Great minds think alike (see above) |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. I have been thinking they should do that for 3 years now |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Or park the fucking truck. I thought we would see it when they opened the borders |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. I thought they would blockade the border on that |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Is it still going on or was it haulted? |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Here is the latest I can find on the issue 2/12 |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. 2/12/08? If so, no ruling yet. Not long enough. |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #38 |
57. haulted? Is that something like fahrted? |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
139. Hoof Hearted asshole. |
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fed-up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. BINGO! ....nt |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 05:43 AM Response to Reply #8 |
73. Protest what? That the world is running out of oil and we have no back-up plans? |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 06:54 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. The sky is falling, the sky is falling so lets give all our money to the oil companies |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #76 |
102. What part of "finite, non-renewable resource" is so hard to grasp? |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Well here is the result - pay up.. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Yep, as the age of cheap oil comes to an end, we will all suffer |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. Right now it is just the oil companies screwing us while the automakers |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #106 |
155. The hybrid system in the SUV's is just for starters. |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 06:03 AM Response to Reply #155 |
157. Meanwhile we will all be too cash strapped to afford one |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #106 |
161. The problem is that we needed to be working on this decades ago |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
9. It's a problem that is never going to "go away". The days of sub-$3 gas are |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
12. What's unfair to these people is that they were tricked... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Instead of a sensible train policy, we have offered so little |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Yes. Big oil controls because we let them. |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
35. So, out of curiosity, how long have you been working in the transportation industry? |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
52. unless |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. I think it would be easier to switch to biodiesle. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Except there is a real |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #59 |
109. Industrial Hemp. |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:30 AM Response to Reply #52 |
60. There is no absolute barrier that I know of, to safe and efficient fusion power |
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Yellow Horse (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #60 |
162. oooh like the "Mr. Fusion" device powering the Delorean at the end of "Back 2 The Future" |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #35 |
53. Agreed. |
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liberal4truth (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 03:38 AM Response to Reply #35 |
70. It amazes me how many people don't know how much freight today is moved by Intermodal locomotive. |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #70 |
79. self delete |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #79 |
144. To hell with self delete, I want to know what an "Intermodal Locomotive" is. |
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liberal4truth (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:56 AM Response to Reply #144 |
156. Intermodal locomotives are those trailer cars that have truck trailers placed on them for .... |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 07:54 AM Response to Reply #156 |
158. Actually, no. Those "trailer cars" are known as "piggy back" rail cars. |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #158 |
163. I know several owner operators making good money hooking up to |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #163 |
165. No doubt. That is where the "Intermodal" part comes in to play. |
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liberal4truth (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #158 |
176. And my point is still the same: Lots of freight is hauled in this manner no mattter what you call it |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 05:20 AM Response to Reply #176 |
187. Are you aware of the fact that in smaller towns built on both |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 05:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
72. Train jobs? Great solution... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #72 |
81. FWIW, the US carries far more freight by rail than the EU, already |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #81 |
97. how does Europe move their stuff around? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. More by road |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
13. This does not sound good. We need them to move our food, |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. All we need is a lot more horses, mules and buggies. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Well let's see what you come up with when we're way south of peak oil. |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #36 |
58. Jeezusfuckingchrist we are ALREADY on the 'south side' of peak oil |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #58 |
138. Where's your goddamn brilliant solution? Higher fucking gas prices. |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #138 |
150. My daddy was a small independent oilman, I have been the same for 45 years. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:52 AM Response to Reply #150 |
151. I knew there was an oil connection and there is nothing tough about it. |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #151 |
152. You hate me because I worked for years to produce oil? Is that what you're saying? |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #30 |
78. dammit, we've fallen behind the Amish! |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
34. And yet another sign of the Bush economy emerges. God damn it. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
39. We ain't seen nothin' yet |
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liberal4truth (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 03:21 AM Response to Reply #39 |
66. Bingo! And not just truckers but farmers too. Those farm tractors all use diesel fuel ! |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
42. The beginning of the end??? |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. or the beginning of a new start? |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
45. They don't park because the price of fuel has gone up, they park because their credit has run out |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
47. thank you Mr. Bush |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
55. I live near I84 |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
61. Bottom line--we have to invent the next energy economy, and fast |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 03:41 AM Response to Original message |
71. At some point it must become clear to even the thickest raygunomic |
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DiverDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
82. We need this discussion ...2 years ago |
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elizfeelinggreat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Great idea |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
84. "hauling lumber is no longer making money because of soaring gas prices..." |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #84 |
110. ding ding ding! |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #110 |
121. and there are a lot of home despot's across the country... |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. home despots |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #122 |
147. yep...but at least you usually have a choice- home despot, or blowes. |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #147 |
154. True enuf..........and, how crappy is it that those are our choices? |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
89. Park the military humvees and similar - give the truckers a price cut (nt) |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
96. Can someone explain to me how Europeans move goods??? |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #96 |
104. Well, they have to drive a lot less distance for one thing |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #104 |
115. and, as a general rule |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #104 |
116. They also are strictly regulated |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #116 |
125. Some trucking companies here are strictly regulated too. |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #104 |
123. It takes as much gas to go through Chicago as it does to go through Kansas. |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #123 |
131. Ummmm...I think your math is a little off, there.... |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #131 |
135. Argh...okay I wasn't very successful at making a point, apparently. |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #96 |
141. They use trains for long distance! |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #141 |
159. No, not really |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
140. Truckers still on the road (IS 85) between Charlotte and Chapel Hill |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #140 |
143. "A miserable trip as ever, thanks to the truckers" |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #140 |
146. Here's a little exercise to do, next time you're on a drive |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #140 |
160. That's pretty funny. Whenever Mr. Tesha's driving us on a long-haul trip... |
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liberal4truth (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:56 AM Response to Reply #160 |
177. Does he like it when those large trucks tailgate your car, going well over their posted speed limit? |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:52 AM Response to Reply #177 |
178. Usually the only time I see a big rig tailgate a car |
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liberal4truth (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:09 AM Response to Reply #178 |
179. You certainly have a right to your observations, but they dont match mine at all..... |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 07:35 AM Response to Reply #179 |
180. Let me guess.... |
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liberal4truth (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #180 |
183. Let me guess. You are one of those truckers who love to tailgate every car on the road. |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #183 |
184. Nope. I USED to be a trucker (20 years, 1.5 million miles accident free) |
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liberal4truth (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #184 |
185. None of your assertions give Truckers the right to speed or tailgate, if you wont obey the laws.... |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 05:25 AM Response to Reply #185 |
188. Always drive with the speed of the traffic unless you as a driver |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 05:51 AM Response to Reply #188 |
189. So true, its safer to go the same speed as everyone else... |
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liberal4truth (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #188 |
193. If the prevailing traffic is going faster then the speed limit the cops can "cherry pick" your car.. |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:19 AM Response to Reply #193 |
195. I've been doing it for at least 30 years |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 07:48 AM Response to Reply #185 |
191. Does every single truck you have ever been near tailgate you? |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #178 |
182. It also happens when thecar is poking along in the middle lane... |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #177 |
181. It doesn't happen to him but he travels at the prevailing speed of the traffic. (Hint, hint). |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
142. The OP should have read the price of DIESEL FUEL, not gas... |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #142 |
153. Diesel is more expensive than gasoline. There is a reason for that, and it's not |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #153 |
164. you tell us, you know alllllllllllllll about that oil. |
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liberal4truth (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #153 |
194. What IS the reason? |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
169. How the fuck does somebody learn to be this inarticulate?????? |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #169 |
170. Oh what, you never make mistakes I guess. Purrrrrrrrrrfect. |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #170 |
172. The fuckheads whole life is a mistake. This society deserves what is coming |
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morgan2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
173. retarded |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
175. The Owner Operator is History a sad kick and Nom. |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
196. If your milk,butter and bread (Walmarts?) stopped getting their goodies to sell |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 08:13 AM Response to Reply #196 |
198. And if they had trouble getting to the Walmart because a rig had been abandoned in the middle of the |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
197. The recipe for a Recession.. |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
199. How much worse can a recession be...? ok. $4-$5.00 gas |
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