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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:06 AM
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Health Care Armageddon: Health Expenditures Climb, Life Expectancy Goes Down
Health Care Crisis? We are way beyond that. Americans are now dying from this nation’s lack of a comprehensive national public health policy. From a recent Washington Post report on a University of Washington Study

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/21/AR2008042102406.html?hpid=topnews

For the first time since the Spanish influenza of 1918, life expectancy is falling for a significant number of American women. In nearly 1,000 counties that together are home to about 12 percent of the nation's women, life expectancy is now shorter than it was in the early 1980s, according to a study published today.
The downward trend is evident in places in the Deep South, Appalachia, the lower Midwest and in one county in Maine. It is not limited to one race or ethnicity but it is more common in rural and low-income areas. The most dramatic change occurred in two areas in southwestern Virginia (Radford City and Pulaski County), where women's life expectancy has decreased by more than five years since 1983.


This does not normally happen in industrialized countries, not unless one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse appears.



Disease, such an influenza pandemic that kills a large number of people can cause a temporary decrease in life expectancy, but the number rebounds quickly after the epidemic is over. War, like the U.S. Civil War, will cause a temporary decrease by killing lots of young men. Anything that causes massive crop failure and starvation could conceivably cause wide scale death, if the effect were global.

However, the U.S. has suffered none of these. We just have plain old Death creeping up on people, mostly women, at earlier ages, because the government is doing nothing to combat the epidemics of obesity, lack of exercise and smoking which lead to hypertension, diabetes and heart disease. Rather than invest in a few cents of preventive health care through a European model universal health care or health insurance program, we deny care to many millions of Americans (almost 50 million are uninsured and another 16 million are under insured) and then offer expensive futile treatments at the end of life—at tax payers expense through Medicare. This results in a net loss to the tax payer, more suffering to the sick and earlier death.

We are buying death with our health care tax dollars rather than investing in life.

If you look at the original study

http://www.plos.org/press/plme-05-04-ezzati.pdf

You will see that while life expectancy rose for men and women between 1961 and 1980, during the 1980s and 1990s certain groups---poor people especially in the South and minorities, had a worsening of their mortality rates compared to the rest of the country. This included deaths from lung disease and cancer as well as the causes listed above. This despite the fact that the U.S. health system was supposed to be improving mortality rates for all Americans.

This health gap occurred the same time that the income disparity under Reagan began to widen, and it is quite likely that the two phenomenon are linked. Living in poverty in a society which actively promotes wealth disparity has been shown to increase the risk of certain health problems for those living in poverty. These problems include depression, suicide, drug and alcohol abuse, infant mortality, violence and domestic violence. The increase in these problems is worse for those living in poverty in a country with wealth disparity than it is for those living in the same degree of poverty in a country without wealth disparity—i.e. inner city USA vs. Jamaica for example.

In order to promote health lifestyles for those living in poverty , health care professionals may need to use more intensive measures. However, the current system in the U.S. ignores those who lack money. So, the ones who need intervention the most, get the least.

The government already pours money into programs that are supposed to remedy this situation. Unfortunately, as a series of articles published this week in the Fort Worth Star Telegram reveals, many local governments, especially in the south, could care less about the health of their indigent populations. We all know that some states have abysmal rates of registering eligible citizens for Medicaid and SCHIPs, even though the programs are paid for mainly with federal dollars. There is a deep prejudice in some parts of the country against providing any sort of social service for the poor, so states will set up obstacles that make it difficult or shameful for people to apply for public services.

This Common Wealth Fund article describes fow 2/3 of children who qualify for Medicaid or SCHIP are not enrolled . The authors discuss how automatic enrollment (currently illegal by federal law) has helped other programs like Medicare B achieve near maximum enrollment. (This link is also useful in making the case for automatic enrollment in health insurance as opposed to voluntary enrollment.)

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/publications_show.htm?doc_id=376814

Here are links to the series in the Fort Worth paper about the shoddy treatment which the uninsured residents of Fort Worth (Tarrant County) receive at the tax payer funded hospital, John Peter Smith.

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/606891.html
“JPS Patients Get Shortchanged as Cash Surpluses Keep Growing”
The John Peter Smith hospital has managed to accrue a cash surplus from the taxes it takes in of $97 million last year. It actively courts private patients—people with insurance who can pay for their treatment. However, if you are one of the uninsured that the hospital is being paid all those millions to care for, you will stay in insect infested rooms with dirty toilets, filthy linen, you will be dumped on other ERs (illegally, just because), illegally detained and then find that the staff has destroyed your records. Equipment needed to sterilize equipment does not work. Charts can not be found. If this was a private doctor’s office, it would be shut down. Because this is a county hospital and the only place where people with no insurance can go, they are expected to be grateful and no one in a position of oversight says a word---what do the working poor expect? Decent quality health care? This is not western Europe where people like them matter. Note that the truly poor are all on Medicaid and Medicare and off in the community seeing private doctors at private hospitals.

http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/608041.html
“Trapped in a Waiting Game at JPS: Delays and Bureaucracy Discourage Some People From Obtaining Care”
Read about the young man with 90% occlusions of his coronary arteries sent home from the JPS emergency room to die when he should have had a follow up stress test. Or the woman with the breast mass who will wait months for a mammogram—this in a city with dozens of radiology centers. Getting an appointment or a prescription filled is an near impossible task. I guess JPS wants to hang onto its $97 million .

http://www.star-telegram.com/817/story/609395.html
“Copay Means No Treatment for Some”
And you can only talk about one problem per visit. Even if you have to wait 3 months for an appointment. As a doctor, I know that people’s number one concern is often not their number one health problem. They may be bothered by their back, and their chest pain when climbing the stairs may be an “Oh doc, by the way, I have to take the elevator now, because I get indigestion every time I climb the stairs.” That one complaint a visit policy is a death sentence.

http://www.star-telegram.com/local/story/609399.html
“Aggressive Price Hikes at JPS Hurt Many”
Public hospitals all do this, raise their prices through the roof to maximize their insurance reimbursements. Guess what happens when no insurance people come through? They pay $5 for a Tylenol. When I took my own son to my old residency ER ( John Sealy Hospital) in Galveston for asthma and my insurance delayed paying, they wanted to charge $2000 for doing one albuterol updraft. That is a crime. And it hits the uninsured, leading to bankruptcies that people can no longer write off.

What is wrong here? No one cares. The folks in charge of JPS do not think that they are partners with the people that they serve. They think that they are opponents. Their job is to keep the riff raff from “stealing” public money for their frivolous health needs. So, they have created a system that discourages people from seeking medical care until they are at death’s door. It tells people “You have no right to good health or health care. Never mind that this hospital is tax payer funded. That money is not for you you uninsured, indigent deadbeat. You are poor. You are worthless. That money is meant for more important things. “

Which is pretty much what the whole Reagan-Gingrich-Bush health care ethos has been about. Funnel all the health care spending into the pockets of the pharmaceutical companies which have been allowed to raise the prices of the top ten drug which they sell to the elderly under Medicare (when any sane government would have used its purchasing clout to force them to lower their prices). And into the pockets of so called Medicare Advantage HMO’s which are helping the drug companies bankrupt traditional Medicare by getting extra high reimbursements from the government for treating cherry picked healthy seniors who require little care. The money goes towards a FDA that rubber stamps bad drugs and bad procedures that cost us lots of money but do not help us. The budgets for research are cut. Who needs prevention? Not the companies that make up the Medical Industrial Complex. They get rich off preventable disease.

Here is more bad news.

http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2008/04/28/prl20428.htm

While medical costs continue to sky rocket, quality of care is lagging. That is right. We are pouring money into health care like never before. It is practically a black hole. But we are getting less and less improvement for our dollar.

The pace of health care quality improvement appears to be slowing, according to the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality's fifth annual report compiling federal and state data on more than 200 quality metrics.

A composite measure of health care quality improved at a 2.3% average annualized rate between 1994 and 2005, with the rate falling to 1.5% from 2000 to 2005. And in a first stab at examining the cost efficiency of the American health care system, AHRQ noted that costs, as estimated by the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, jumped 6.7% from 1994 to 2005.


You know, if the American health care system was a business and quality health for Americans was supposed to be its product, most of us would call it a failure. However, in these days of corporate welfare, throwing money into the black hole of John Peter Smith Hospital or the American health care system as a whole and getting diminishing returns---why, that is just sound business!

Maybe there is a Fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse, Greed.



Meanwhile, a companion AHRQ report on disparities found that while some gaps were reduced or even eliminated, most metrics of racial and ethnic minorities' access to quality care have stayed the same or worsened.

You can read both reports here as pdf files.

http://www.ahrq.gov/qual/qrdr07.htm.

It is great to do annual reports on disparities and on quality and on mortality, but I think by now we get the picture. As long as health care is viewed as discretionary---and as long as it is up to the discretion of someone in a suit and tie with an advanced degree who thinks that members of the working class who lack health insurance because they work at a store that does not offer it do not deserve the same health care that they and their college educated friends get---as long as that is how the health care system in America is run, we are going to be going backwards instead of forwards in this country.

The only sane way to spend our health care dollars is on universal health insurance or health care, and the only sane way to start such a program is through automatic enrollment, since this will ensure that everyone, including the people who need it most, participate. We do not need two thirds of the most vulnerable population failing to sign up, as they have failed to sign their kids up for Medicaid or SCHIP. Once everyone is covered, then there will be no need for “public hospitals” and the John Peter Smiths of the world will have to clean up their act or be driven out of business by market forces. As people begin to see good health as a right not a privilege they will begin to think about taking care of their bodies. As the government begins to see health care costs as something that can be managed through prevention (since everyone will have access to health services) it will have a financial incentive to invest in disease prevention.

Here is a different health solution, the one proposed by the group Physicians for National Health Program which is different from that of both the Democrats since it cuts the insurance companies out of the equation altogether and puts everyone on an equal playing field. It is very democratic. And it eliminates Greed . I like it.

http://www.pnhp.org/publications/proposal_of_the_physicians_working_group_for_singlepayer_national_health_insurance.php


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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:29 AM
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1. Single Payer is the answer. Both Hillary and Barack are not proposing that.
The answer lies with the American people bringing pressure to bear on CONGRESS to get rid of insurance companies once and for all.

HR676.

http://www.hr676.org/
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budedis Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:33 PM
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23. And the federal government is the only organization that can be the payer.
The reason single payer can work is that it eliminates the power that providers have over consumers. My sick 80+ yr old parents can't do too much health care shopping. The so-called "free market" is the problem not the solution.

McCain's plan (a recycled Bush plan) - tax credits and tax cuts - will make it worse for everyone except pharma and insurance. The profit motive is not a good thing for the consumer when the consumer is desperate. Everyone who has ever had a clipboard full of forms shoved at them to sign when they are bleeding to death on a table in the ER knows that the market isn't free. They have you by the balls. No time to get estimates from at least three body shops or call around for the best rates on CT scans or check Craig's list for a good deal on O+ blood.

After a bicycle accident I walked into the closest ER with BP 60/40, a ruptured spleen and a road burn from eyebrow to kneecap. You sign the papers even though your glasses are wrapped around your neck, your face is covered in blood and you left the skin from all of your knuckles on the asphalt. And they've just given you a morphine injection and started the first of four units of blood. I'm sure that I agreed to pay whatever they wanted to charge minus whatever the big blue insurance wanted to pay for whatever they felt like doing to me.

I have nothing but praise for the triage nurse and the hospital where I spent the next five days. That nurse and the friend who drove me to the hospital saved my life. The staff, nurses and doctors treated me wonderfully and they should be well paid.

All nurses should get a big raise and all the insurance companies should be eliminated to pay for it.

But as long as pharma, med co and insurance co are funding political campaigns and lobbying (ie bribing), nothing will change.

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:29 AM
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24. agree as to single payer as answer - but Hillary has that as option
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:39 AM
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2. Decrease in life expectancy happened in the Soviet Union
just before it began its total collapse. Maybe it will take a complete collapse of our own society to get meaningful change.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:40 AM
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4. and we'll probably end up with a country that operates a lot like modern day russia.
yay.
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lefty2000 Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:27 AM
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8. That Can Be Avoided
But only by an enlightened social policy.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:38 AM
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3. Moore's movie "Sicko" outlined the problem well
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:58 AM
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5. Kucinich has the answer, and it's detailed fully in HR 676
Dems really need to get vocal and actively lobby the presidential candidates and their congressional representatives to get behind HR 676 now, or live with the "Insurance" based remedy that is likely to result.
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MiJaMu Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:25 AM
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6. a European model universal health care or health insurance program
Europe is in very bad shape. You would know if you've been there recently. Anytime someone suggests we need to adopt the practices of Europe, i get skeptical. Why not adopt the EU free trade policies while we're at it? :sarcasm:

Don't get me wrong, our health care is declining. But Europe is NOT the answer.
~ MiJa
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:33 AM
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9. Blow it out your ass.
Europeans are not losing their houses because of medical bills. They are not dying because of lack of health care. They are paying for health care and actually getting health care.
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MiJaMu Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:45 AM
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13. WOW
wow,
I love your generalizations. Also your appeal to emotion. And the insult is the cherry on top.
your convincing arguments have swayed me, sir.


Come on. There are solutions out there (single payer being a good example). What happened to dialog? My whole point "we need to adopt Europe" is a cop out. Let's stop shouting each other down and start uniting around good ideas.
~ MiJa
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:56 PM
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18. My patience with people spouting RW talking points ended a long time ago.
It left about the time I lost my house to medical bills.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:06 PM
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22. me too Lars, me too
but if it walks like a duck, acts like a duck, talks like a duck...well, let me just say this.
The duck pond is getting full here ifn you know whut I mean.;)
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:04 PM
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21. France has the BEST plan out there
what do you have to say about that?
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:22 PM
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25. And the thing that the Euopeans are totally LOSING out on is
Edited on Fri May-02-08 06:23 PM by truedelphi
Major national deficits due to two losing wars.

The two trillion dollar war we have going on in Iraq right now could have bought health care for every American from the age of one day to death for about five years.

Maybe longer.

Like Michael Moore has said, there is no way that the RW argument about our not having the money should ever be listened to again.

As far as I am concerned, our populace should repossess the mansions owned by the swindlers for the big helath care insurance conglomerates.

And as it stands right now, the top executive for United Healthcare recieves more monies each year than the combined salaries at one of the Rhode Island hospitals that has been asking for an increase of 10% for their charge outs at United Health Care.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:34 AM
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10. It's doing a lot better than we are.
So's Canada. No one is saying that their systems are perfect. What we are saying is that, by every measurement, they're doing a hell of a lot better than we are.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:59 PM
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19. Well, Europe is ONE of the answers, as are the 36 countries that rank ahead of the US...
... in this study comparing 190 individual health care systems along a range of criteria that includes everything from infant mortality rates to healthy life expectancy to equality of access to services.

And not only do we do a fairly shitty job of providing health care even to those with insurance, it costs more here per capita than any other country in the world.

I'd say that's a big 0 for 2 and it's only getting worse.


wp
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lefty2000 Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:26 AM
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7. The Reagan Revolution
We are witnessing the fruits of Ronald Reagan's legacy. The new deal/great society had its problems, but it did a lot of good for the people. Our prosperity is built on the backs of the poor. One of the things I remember about the Reagan years is people living under bridges, until the state troopers moved in and cleared them out.
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Sam Ervin jret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:47 AM
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11. We are Rome. What will we be after the fall is still to be decided.
A greater more perfect union that cares for it's people and has true open markets that allow for real open trade and still takes care of the most needy among us. A republic that has liberty, freedom of mind and body and respect for the people. OR

Will we be lost.

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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:38 AM
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12. If we are anything like Rome, we are not going to fall at this time
No, we will lose the Republic, instead. An emperor would be the logical conclusion of the lesson of Rome.

Then, much later we can truly fall and descend into anarchy/fiefdoms.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:09 PM
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14. k&r (n/t)
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:28 PM
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15. Hate to sound like the grim reaper, but...
I think this country has officially passed the point of no return concerning the relationship of government to the governed and the lofty goals of promoting "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

As the OP makes clear at least a dozen different ways, this country is no longer in the business of promoting life -- if it ever was -- for its own citizens or anybody else around the world, as Iraqi and Afghan women and children would be the first to tell you.

There's one study missing from the litany of US medical horrors; it's the one released in 2004 by a DC-based policy analysis organization called the Institute of Medicine. This study blames lack of medical insurance for about 18,000 deaths each year in the US.

I've seen a more recent study by the same organization that ups that number to 22,000, but I can't find it now so 18,000 will have to do. Either way, I somehow doubt that there's another "rich" industrialized country on the planet that owns such shameful statistics, or actively promotes a medical system that by its very nature will inevitably kill a small town's worth of humans every single year.


Nor is promoting "liberty" a function of government any more. Just the opposite. That's obvious in any number of examples of Bushean domestic repression and the series of incremental moves toward building and implementing a lock-down national security state. You'll have to either trust me on that one, reject the premise out of hand without checking, or read through this post that lists about 80 percent of the fascistic programs and regulations the Bushies have put in place -- and that's just the ones we know about -- to make damn sure that no independent progressive thought goes undetected or unpunished.

Here's an interesting take on the use by corporations of health benefits as social control mechanisms to increase employee insecurity and therefore keep them working in the kind of useless, soul-shriveling jobs that, if they lived in a country with a national health care program and other elements of a real social safety net, they'd quit before the sun set on another miserable day of frustration, boredom and hopelessness.

So much for the freedom to choose the life you want rather than the one the set of American restraints on real liberty -- with no access to health care at or near the top of most people's list -- chooses for you. Here's an excerpt from the above-linked article:

THE EFFECTS OF MARKET-DRIVEN CARE

The real effects of market-driven health care on people's lives suggest that the primary corporate motive for imposing this type of health care system is to allow employers to have more control over their labor force.

What are the results of market-driven health care? First, market-driven health care makes people feel insecure about their prospects for receiving health care when they need it. Second, it destroys the trust that patients once had in their doctors by making doctors "gatekeepers'' whose role is often to block access to care. Third, by making health care a commodity to be bought and sold like any other, it expands the growing economic inequality in the United States to include health inequality. Fourth, it pits health professionals against each other in competing physician groups and hospitals. These are four classic methods of social control: make people feel too insecure to challenge those in power, destroy people's trust in one another, make them more unequal, pit them against each other.

Even before the rise of market-driven health care, corporations relied on the insecurity of health care to control workers. For decades, large employers (and some regressive labor unions) have preferred to link health benefits to employment, knowing it gave them more control over their employees. According to a New York Times/CBS poll in 1991, 32 percent of workers did not quit jobs they disliked because they were afraid of losing their health benefits. In June, 1998 General Motors threatened to deny medical benefits to striking workers in Flint, Michigan in order to pressure them back to work. Raytheon actually did cancel health insurance for striking workers in Massachusetts in August 2000, to force them back to work.

Additionally, making health benefits depend on independent agreements between employer and employees in thousands of different companies gives employers the upper hand by preventing employees from acting as a single nation-wide block. This is why American corporations don't want the situation in Europe, where wages and benefits such as health care, vacation, and maternity benefits are negotiated on a country-wide basis between representatives of labor, the government and corporations.


In other words, a scared employee -- thrown to the wolves as an overwhelmed individual rather than as a member of a union or some other organized counter-weight to full corporate totalitarianism -- is the perfect wage/debt slave and will do whatever he/she is told to avoid increasing their already suffocating levels of uncertainty and insecurity.

Just one more way the American dream works to enrich the corporate piggies, control the (disappearing) middle class, exploit the working classes and continue to insulate the elites from their richly deserved day of reckoning with the people they've screwed to the wall, allowing them to keep on wallowing in their hard-earned dividend checks instead.


And then there's the really big lie: American government and its alleged role in encouraging "...the pursuit of happiness."

I know quite a few writers, artists, musicians and people with other "non-marketable" skills who are slowly withering and retreating inward under the stifling influence and sheer awfulness of forced daily subservience to corporate America. Because most of them bought into the debt slave trap, they couldn't cover their bills if they were to opt for a reduced standard of living that would get them out of the corporate death trap and let them refine their abilities and gifts so that, with a little luck and a lot of talent, they might become self-supporting artists in a few years.

They'll likely never make a ton of money, but they're not motivated by money anyway -- just by the lack of it. But this is heresy and runs completely contrary to accepted norms in a country where the national religion is capitalism and its most venerated icon is the dollar sign.

And because heretics are generally threatening to people invested in mainstream cultural values, it makes many corporate androids absolutely crazy that some of these insults to the system have gotten away with flipping off corporate America and have still managed to carve out a decent living in the arts or some other non-destructive pursuit.

To compound their sins, heretics' days don't involve life in a cube, buried in the middle of a cube farm, a small and unimportant member of a department in a building decorated by the department of architectural sterility, a disposable cog in the hostile machinery of a company that operates as a totalitarian fascist state and treats its people far worse than it treats its IT systems.

Unfortunately, people who take the non-corporate option in America might just die before they ever make enough money to afford private for-profit medical coverage on the open market. That's not enabling the pursuit of happiness by anyone's standards; that's wage slavery imposed by a system that places value solely on a person's ability to generate profits for a corporation.

Conversely, it accounts for the time spent on other "wasteful" activities -- things like creating art, music, literature or anything else that increases the value of humanity's collective assets but doesn't have some sort of bottom line corporate benefit -- as a net negative and an unproductive waste of time.

Well, fuck them twice over in every uncomfortable and/or painful orifice for their miserable capitalist world view and the debilitating effects it's having on life on earth. And fuck them again for inflicting this greed-driven failure of a medical system on 300 million people who really deserve better.

Even at political end times, that would still be heresy and highly offensive to all who spend their days grubbing for ever more money because they're so fucking clueless that they actually believe the bumper sticker that reads "He who dies with the most toys wins."

But if it won't fit on a bumper sticker, it probably won't fit between the ears of the average American corporate android. So I suppose these nitwits and modern America were made for each other. Too bad so many other decent, more rational and less co-opted people have to live alongside this oversupply of frauds and fools.


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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:58 PM
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16. Thanks for posting about the lives lost through lack of health insurance.
That is another way of looking at the statistic about declining life expectancy. I think that the decline in life expectancy is even more of a shocker. The average secular Calvinist indoctrinated American will hear "uninsured" and think Reckless SOB who had it coming even though we all know that there are plenty of reasons that a person can lose health insurances---like becoming too ill to work and not having the $10k a year to pay for the COBRA so they can no longer get treatment for their illness and they die. People have been conditioned not to think about that. They are told If you are poor, it is because you are lazy . And If you do not have heath insurance, it is because you frittered away your money on something else and did not plan for the future. .

So, no one really gives a damn if 18k people die a year from lack of health insurance. It is like saying x people die a year from riding motorcycles without helmets.

When you can say that the life expectancy is going down by 4 years for women living in certain areas, I think people begin to see that we are engaged in slow genocide. That federal government should have been all over this epidemic of premature death. Especially since it can be correlated with things which are easy to modify---lifestyle factors like diet, smoking, exercise and (more than likely) environmental factors like pollution (these are always hidden in there when cancer mortality goes up--remember toxic facilities and dumps are built in the backyard of the poor in the south).

As for the use of insurance to keep workers complacent, this has been a big factor in the past, however the health insurance industry has gotten too big for its britches. It is now charging the nation's largest employers huge sums of money to insure their valuable skilled workers whom they must have in order to do business. The employers are pissed off. Now the employers want the government to step in and take over the burden of handing out insurance and keeping their workers healthy and productive like they are in Europe and Japan. Once the nation's employers and the nation's health care providers get on board the idea of a national health plan, the nation;s health insurance industry is toast. They can keep donating heavily to the Republican Party, but eventually that Party will be out of power and then they will have few friends. Esp. if the nation goes into depression. The health insurance industry overhead and profit that is tacked onto the 15% of the GNP that the nation spends on health care will be one of the first items that is trimmed in a full blown depression. The health insurance industry is B Arc, along with the telephone sanitizers.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:53 PM
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17. More lousy numbers and more condemnation from the WHO...
Here's the news release that accompanied that 2000 WHO study comparing 190 individual health care systems along just about any criteria and metric you can imagine.

And here's one of the more damning statements in the release, which is also a good summary of the disconnect between how much the for-profit bastards are gouging us for -- more money per capita than any other country in the world -- and what kind of results we're getting for all that money -- we rank 37th overall on the WHO's set of criteria that define a quality health care system and we're sinking fast. Here's what the WHO's director of health policy evaluation had to say back in 2000:


The United States rated 24th under this system, or an average of 70.0 years of healthy life for babies born in 1999. The WHO also breaks down life expectancy by sex for each country. Under this system, U.S. female babies could expect 72.6 years of healthy life, versus just 67.5 years for male babies.

"The position of the United States is one of the major surprises of the new rating system," says Christopher Murray, M.D., Ph.D., Director of WHO's Global Programme on Evidence for Health Policy. "Basically, you die earlier and spend more time disabled if you're an American rather than a member of most other advanced countries."

The WHO cites various causes for why the United States ranks relatively low among wealthy nations. These reasons include:

* In the United States, some groups, such as Native Americans, rural African Americans and the inner city poor, have extremely poor health, more characteristic of a poor developing country rather than a rich industrialized one.

* The HIV epidemic causes a higher proportion of death and disability to U.S. young and middle-aged than in most other advanced countries. HIV-AIDS cut three months from the healthy life expectancy of male American babies born in 1999, and one month from female lives;

* The U.S. is one of the leading countries for cancers relating to tobacco, especially lung cancer. Tobacco use also causes chronic lung disease.

* A high coronary heart disease rate, which has dropped in recent years but remains high;

* Fairly high levels of violence, especially of homicides, when compared to other industrial countries.



The 2000 WHO report's statistical abstract is available here, downloadable as a pdf file from the bottom entry of this menu:

REPORT BY CHAPTERS
- Director General's Message
- Chapter 1: Why do health systems matter?
- Chapter 2: How well do health systems perform?
- Chapter 3: Health services: well chosen, well organized?
- Chapter 4: What resources are needed?
- Chapter 5: Who pays health systems?
- Chapter 6: How is the public interest protected?
- Annexe statistique


There are so many more sources of health care information out there, and every single damn one of them -- except those from the AMA or some other group of for-profit medicine shills -- without exception says the US system is not only one of the worst performers, but the most expensive by thousands per capita per year.

If I were able to get any more pissed off about this hideous scam fobbed off as a free market solution, my blood pressure would rise into the danger zone. So, not wishing to have a stroke this evening, I'll check out for now.

Also, if you want to read a GREAT ARTICLE on the whole crock of shit and a demand for a single-payer system to replace it yesterday, here's a link to a REALLY WELL WRITTEN PIECE by modesty forbids from earlier this year.


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20. You can call it anything you want. It is a class war. K&R for a great OP. n/t
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