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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 12:01 AM
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When fallen Canadian soldiers return from Afghanistan....
Edited on Sat May-17-08 12:22 AM by JohnnyRingo
...The media is not banned from covering it:

It brought a tear to my eye just seeing the pix....
But that's probably why President Chimp wants to sanitize the event.

Link to pic:

<a href="http://pixdaus.com/single.php?id=45195&from=embed"><img src=""></a>
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 12:05 AM
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1. They tried keeping it under wraps.
The fuss and furor convinced them it really wasn't a very good idea.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 12:10 AM
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2. I'm just old enough to remember
...the news covering Vietnam soldiers returning home. I can't recall flag-draped coffins but I believe that was being shown too.

No doubt it was Cheney who decided we wouldn't show any of that this time, for precisely the reason you state. Sanitize and censor it and people don't have to reflect on the awful toll being paid. It's one of the worst manipulations this disgusting regime has worked on America.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 01:57 AM
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5. Whenever I'd see the coffins on TV,
I'd pause and reflect for a moment, and send off my version of a prayer to the fallen and their families.

Biden tells a story of how, when at their request, he went with a Delaware family to the base to get their son's remains. They were not going to allow him on the base. Biden, of course, raised hell and was finally permitted to accompany the family. Can you imagine?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 12:12 AM
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3. Bushco says they don't show the return out of
consideration for the families.

My feeling is that it honors our fallen service men and women. As often as I saw it during Viet Nam, it always gave me pause and I'd take a minute to send off a prayer for them and their families.

Bushco has turned these heroes into numbers -- not people.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 05:52 PM
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13. Bushco refuses to show them out of consideration of his and his mother's "beautiful mind"
It's all about Bush.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 12:17 AM
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4. Canada honors its war dead. The US hides them. Enough said.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 01:58 AM
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6. :(
:(
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 02:00 AM
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7. Glad I returned --
the pics were thumbnails when I posted previously.

These brought tears to my eyes and gave me chills.

Our troops deserve the same respect and honor.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 03:09 AM
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8. Amazing how much people WISH to pay their respects to the soldiers
if only they were given a chance to, no matter how much they might question the war itself.

Bu**sh** has forbidden us the opportunity to publicly salute the fallen, out of fear that we might question what they died for.

But we do that anyway. It is only the soldiers and their families who lose out -- they are shut out of sight like lepers, and never allowed to witness the genuine respect which, by all rights, should be lavished on their loved ones. I can't imagine that does anything but add to the pain of loss.

To the families -- George W. Bush does NOT feel your pain. Your fellow Americans, particularly Constitution-loving Democratic Americans, do.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 03:34 AM
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9. Very well said
It's clear our boys are exploited as revenue generating tools by this administration.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 08:08 AM
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10. Compare these pics with US soldiers' coffins being moved with forklifts
Edited on Sat May-17-08 08:31 AM by Divernan
out of cargo planes, and then stacked in hangars, and the story that US military forces' bodies in body bags were hung from overhead "meathooks" in transport planes returning to US, for lack of coffins. I don't have those pics saved. If anyone has access to them, please post them in this thread.

Re forklifts:
www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070407/news_1n7bodies.html

Father's anger helps war dead get their due

Caskets no longer flown in cargo holds

By Rick Rogers
STAFF WRITER

April 7, 2007

In a way, Army Spc. Matthew J. Holley's final service to his comrades came more than a year after his death from a roadside bomb attack in Iraq.

"I am sure he would've been glad that because of him, other soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen were properly honored," John Holley, with wife Stacey, said of his son, Army Spc. Matthew J. Holley, who died in Iraq.
Because of Holley, a native of Rancho Peñasquitos, fallen U.S. service members are now returned to their families aboard charter jets rather than in the cargo holds of commercial planes. The caskets are met by honor guards in white gloves and crisp uniforms instead of baggage handlers with forklifts.

The legislation ensuring such treatment bears his name: the Holley Provision, which the Pentagon quietly started following in January.

“I don't know what Matthew would've thought about this, because he was a private person. But I am sure he would've been glad that because of him, other soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen were properly honored,” said his father, John Holley.

“This is an awesome thing. I am glad the government has adopted the policy it should have had from the beginning,” said Holley, who tears up when talking about his son.

The story of how a father fought for his son's honor and in the process won honors for all of America's war dead is a classic tale of outrage gaining a following.


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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 12:42 PM
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11. I had no idea
I didn't know about the lack of coffins, transporting American heros like a comodity.

I thought the strip from Canada was sad, now I feel it's touching.
The treatment our soldiers receive from Buxh redefines "sad".
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 12:43 PM
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12. sometimes I wish canada would invade us.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 08:39 PM
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14. those unpatriot bastids!!
what with their honoring fallen soldiers and giving a damn about the dead... uggh!





:sarcasm:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 08:46 PM
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15. Wow.... That brought tears
Having buried three of my High School buddies
that served in Nam.....when the war was going on.

What the Fuck is wrong with this Country?

I know, you don't need to answer that

Kick nominated.
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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 09:14 PM
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16. It's not uncommon at all to see drivers on the overpasses of the 401
Edited on Sat May-17-08 09:18 PM by Heywoodj
in Scarborough pull to the side to salute the hearses coming down the cleared freeway into the city center. There have been about eighty so far, if memory serves.




Here, you get this:
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