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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:20 AM
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Heard Somebody On A Cable News Show This A.M. Saying Scotty's Book Will Be Forgotten By Next Week...
claimed it would be old news and not be talked about.

If you listened to Scotty this a.m. on the Today Show - IMHO - I think he came off as genuine and credible. Bartlett tried to discredit him - but he came off like he was spewing WH talking points against Scotty and not credible. Samw old, same old.

Scotty said he wrote the book to show the American people what goes on behind the scenes and to illustrate that we have to get away from the partisan politics and the continual campaign of each party wanting power and influence. (paraphrasing) He hoped we'd learn something from the book and not commit past mistakes going forward. He thought it was timely given the current election cycle.

He talked about being on the WHIG committee (White House Information Group or WHIG was the marketing arm of the White House whose purpose was to sell the 2003 invasion of Iraq to the public)during Ari's absence. He said he was/is disillusioned and not disgruntled - and that's why he wrote the book. He came to D.C. with all these hopes and fired up by *'s rhetoric and then he saw what really happened. He did claim that he felt deceived by Rove/Libby in the Plame affair - lied to - and as a result made to look the fool.

What he didn't say and wasn't asked about was projecting to the future about Iran. I'm thinking that an ulterior motive as to why he wrote the book is to prevent the WH from taking us into Iran. I think he had attempted to point out how we were deceived on Iraq and wants us to recognize the signs as *Co pushes for Iran.

He fingered Cheney and I believe that he put Condi on notice. What I mean by this - he pointed out that Cheney was/is very influential over Bush and that Condi probably should have challenged Bush more. I think this is to be a shot over both their bows to not go there with Iran.

At any rate - a couple of major points I want to make here: 1. We can't let this book or the message die - we need to keep this alive to prevent *Co from making a move on Iran and dragging us down the same route we've been down before with Iraq and 2. we also need to keep this alive and in perspective during the GE campaign to help whatever Dem candidate runs against McCain - though I think that Obama has a better position to deal with this as he was anti-Iraq war - this needs to keep coming up until November that McCain helped *Co sell this so-called war; 3. We need to contact our congressmen and senators and get them to get Scotty up to the Hill to testify on Leahy's and Conyer's committees. We need to make sure that this administration get put in their place and send a message to future administrations that we will never let this happen to this country again.

Overall we need to make sure that Scotty's message and his book continue to be included in news cycles until the GE.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:24 AM
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1. You'd better believe shrub thinks
bombing Iran can rescue McShames campaign.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:25 AM
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2. They wish.... We are too sick of them to forget any of this.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:26 AM
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3. The "WHIG committee"? Ooo, someone in the WH is ignorant of history!
Edited on Thu May-29-08 08:27 AM by TechBear_Seattle
Excuse me a moment...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Now that I have that out of my system, the Whig Party existed in the United States from 1833 to 1856. It was formed out of the ashes of the Federalist Party to oppose the populism of Andrew Jackson's Democratic Party. The name was adopted from the British Whig Party and, like them, the US Whigs supported the power of Congress over the power of the Executive and opposed autocratic rule.

Oh, the irony!


Added: Read more at the Wikipedia article for Whig Party (United States)
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:27 AM
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4. I watched the interview on the Morning Show.
Scott did not reveal anything that we did not already know. I want to know the real reason behind our attack on Iraq. We all know it was not because of WMD. We also know that Bush is just a marionette for Cheney, Rice and many others.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:30 AM
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5. The real reason can be found in the Bremer Orders.
Another Chile comes to mind.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:33 AM
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7. I don't know what Bremer's orders were but he surely
screwed everything up by following the orders.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 02:14 PM
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15. Bremer's orders are in this I did sometime ago.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:32 AM
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6. Everybody on DU knows it, but
does a lot of the audience know about what McClellan published?

And, from what I read about Rice in the papers from Scottie's book, she was just interested in pleasing Bush and not forming her own opinion.

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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:35 AM
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9. I think it was Bush who followed her advice because he
was not able to think on his own. I know it looked as if she was parroting him.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:38 AM
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11. You know that, I know that, but now millions of people who rely on the m$m for info
but will not even read McClellan's book know it as well--therein lies the value. Not only will they continue to distrust the WH, their eyes are being opened to the laziness, corruption, and manipulations of the m$m as well.

Just because it doesn't satisfy our political wonkiness hardly means it has no value; quite the contrary, in fact.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:40 AM
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12. As Someone Said On Another Thread Here On DU - Scott Really Confirmed All That...
we suspected and knew. As an afterthought to my original message here on this post - this is really a good opportunity for the MSM - whom Scott also implicated in his book as being complicit and allowing *Co to get away with this - to redeem themselves.

We should all encourage those that call themselves journalists (whom in protecting their own hides yesterday - like David Gregory)to go back and to dig out just how and why they/we were deceived or played by *Co.

This is a chance for them to get a do-over and make things right - by confirming what Scotty has written about.

Don't let the likes of Rove, Bartlett, Fleischer, Rice, etc - try to pull the wool over our eyes again. Don't give this corrupt administration the opportunity to re-write history. Hold their feet to the fire. Show side by side the rhetoric that got us into Iraq with what is being done to trump up an attack on Iran now. Use their words against them. Call them out.

Seems to be a lot of back-pedaling going on over at the WH now.

There's the challenge to you so-called media journalists. We know you nose around here on DU to get ideas and to see what people are saying about you. Go ahead and take it to *Co. Scotty has given you a chance to redeem yourselves. Don't shoot the messenger.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:34 AM
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8. That's what they are praying for...I haven't seen them in such violent spin mode since Scooter...
...Libby's sentencing...

This will go on festering for quite a while methinks...


You can always judge how scared these criminals are by the level and ferocity of their vitriol and spin..And looking at the last 24 hours these guys are scared SHITLESS....
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:37 AM
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10. Well, we can't let that happen, now can we?
We need to keep the pressure on Leahy and Conyers, as well as the MSM. I don't see Keith letting it drop, nor Tweety. They are going to have to come up with something really, really big to divert our attention. IF THEY DO THAT, we should be very concerned, as they are nervous about being exposed.

They probably figure that since we already suspected all of this stuff that Scotty brought up, we'll decide "nothing here...move on" but we shouldn't do that. Remember, we also know how they work and that's why they've gotten by with all this crap.

Heads up!
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:48 AM
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13. Remember We Are Moving Into A Very Newsworthy Weekend/Week.....
with the meeting by the RBC in D.C. on Saturday; Puerto Rico on Sunday and the remaining primaries on Tuesday and all the analysis on Wednesday - whether Obama claims victory or Hilliary says she's going to take this to Denver.

With all that hub hub - it's easy to see how Scotty's book will get knocked off the table.

Again - we can't let that happen. We need to encourage everyone here to contact Leahy and Conyers and keep this in the mainstream.

I know that the WH is counting on this furor of Scotty's book to be over by tomorrow - but we need to keep the ball bouncing.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 10:15 AM
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14. I agree, but Scotty is also starting his book tour and appearances on TV.
Hopefully, he will trickle out more and more comments the MSM will jump on, as they need something beyond the Dems to talk about. Surprise, surprise! I think they are a little titilated and probably saw enough of Scotty being pushed in a corner that they feel sorry for him. He is a likable fella and I think the * administration used him.

People don't like that.
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