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Gato Moteado (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-08 11:37 PM Original message |
when was the last time a black person was leader of the most powerful nation on earth? |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-08 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. Egypt... n/t |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. that was my best guess as well (nt) |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-08 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
2. been a long time, been a long time, been a long ... |
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Gato Moteado (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. ....lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely time. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #11 |
19. thank you |
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
43. I would say black africa was only a super power during the beginning of mankind |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-08 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
4. More than likely some of our prior presidents had significant recent african ancestry |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. Rome.... |
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Gato Moteado (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. interesting.... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Here you go, Septimus Severus |
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kansasblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. cool, thanks for the info |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. You welcome |
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Gato Moteado (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. well.....it's only been about 1800 years |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. You welcome but far better than Egypt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 12:24 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Deleted message |
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 12:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Sorry to be quite pesky about this |
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rebel with a cause (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I agree it is racist much. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 02:31 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Deleted message |
rebel with a cause (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:13 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. It is all the same. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #27 |
52. So riddle me this, McCain does? |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #18 |
51. clearly not black |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Where exactly was he born? Africa |
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surrealAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. The thing is, it really is only skin tone. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Thing is Septimus Severus was referred as a black african by his |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Source? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Look up thread I posted a link |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. I see a link claiming he was a Briton. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. A link saying he was born in Africa |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Yes, I concede he was born in Africa. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. He was referred that way in the senate |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. You're making the claim. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. I did, several of them |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. None of your links supported your claim... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Open a book... have a good life, |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. So you can't substantiate your claim? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. IIRC folks we would consider "black" were called "ethiopian" by the Greeks and Romans |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Exactly |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. So was de Klerk. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. You were, the rest of us understood that the OP referred to a person of African |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Well we're all of African descent. |
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Gato Moteado (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
30. wow.....you've been here a few days and already polluting this place with racist posts.... |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #15 |
31. "Obama isn't black enough to count"?? |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #15 |
32. "Obama isn't black enough to count" |
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MJkcj (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
38. what? a "real" black? is that like a "real american"? |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #15 |
46. You know, there is probably not one person in existance whose race is pure |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
36. Thanks for this |
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mamaE (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #8 |
40. thanks - cool. Not the most powerful place but Mandela |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
55. Indeed.... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #5 |
37. North Africans aren't black. n/t. |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #37 |
50. Small point ... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. And as you know Romans referred to Septimus Severus as a black african |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Indeed ... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. No there hasn't. |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #60 |
87. None? |
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MazeRat7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-08 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
6. The Kings (Pharaohs) of Ancient Egypt n/t |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #6 |
39. Calling Egyptians "black" is very misleading IMO. |
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I agree. North africans are mixed, not black, but arabic nt |
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SweetieD (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #41 |
54. Ancient Egyptians were not arabs. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. you are confusing ethnicity and genetics. |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
72. You don't really understand what you're saying, do you? |
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. Arabs are not a race? Is bin laden caucasian? NO. Is he black? NO. |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #81 |
89. No, Arabs are not a race |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. So what is Obama again? n/t |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Oops, dupe. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Hmm, East African and White. Good observation, LOL! |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
64. Depends on which Egyptians you're talking about. |
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cemaphonic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #39 |
74. Generally I would agree |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #39 |
76. The most recent genetic/physical studies have shown that |
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DeltaLitProf (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
13. Thomas Jefferson |
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jacksonian (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. thomas jefferson |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Great point...but.... |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Thomas Jefferson's ancestors would have no bearing on his own ethnic background. |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
14. An African tribe conquered and established a dynasty in Egypt, ruling there for about a century |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #14 |
49. Thanks (you beat me) |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
17. Egypt, India... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
22. Define powerful. |
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XOKCowboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
24. Think what it means to this young man... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
25. I look forward to serving my new black overlords. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
26. 211 AD, in Rome. |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
29. Could be Sultan Abu l-Hasan Ali of Morocco (ruled 1335-1351 AD)? |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
34. Warren Harding, 1920's... |
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SweetieD (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
88. Harding was not Black. It was a smear campaign not unlike the Muslim smears against Ob |
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Tutonic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
35. Ok...is the US the MOST POWERFUL? |
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LibertyLover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
44. Egypt during the 25th dynasty |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
80. I was going to post "Kush" |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
45. Just think |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
93. "This election will show the US to be..." |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
78. To answer the question of the topic of the thread |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Yes, I thought of Mansa Musa myself. |
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cureautismnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
83. How 'bout former Secretary-General of the United Nations? - Kofi Annan |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. that's a good one. |
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MrsBrady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. yes, but it's not a country n/t |
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cureautismnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. True. It's 192 countries. n/t |
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