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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:52 PM Original message |
Has a black man or woman even ever been a candidate for the job of leading any European country? |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. I don't think so... |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. There's quite a few black politicians in the UK |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. It's funny, but I don't think of the UK as 'Europe'. nt |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. See post #1. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 03:46 AM Response to Reply #10 |
29. Technically, we are. We are part of the EU. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #29 |
62. As far as corporatist economics and politics are concerned, we are an offshore platform of the US, |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Do you know their |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. England abolished their slave trade long before the U.S. |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. Yes, right after the Sugar Beat under priced Sugar from Sugar Cane, |
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Journeyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. Benjamin Disraeli, British Prime Minister (1868, 1874-1880) . . . |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
58. Leon Blum - three-time Prime Minister of France was Jewish |
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Journeyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Thank you for that. . . |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. For political office, certainly; though not yet as party leaders |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
47. Who sees "England as farther ahead in race relations"? The UK has had race riots in the recent past |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. As long as we have the racist anti-immigrant tabloids.... |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. Not in modern times, no. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
5. "Is America really the most progressive country in the world" |
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Coventina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
6. Whoops! I misunderstood the OP, sorry! *self delete* n/t |
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WilmywoodNCparalegal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
7. I remember a couple of years ago there was a mayor of |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
8. In northern Europe they don't have black residents in significant numbers, so, why would they? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. Black residents? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
11. Racial composition of GB. Most of the minorities are recent immigrants. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 03:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
31. While many are recent immigrants, over half were born in Britain, but with immigrant parents or |
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Hope And Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
12. Yvette Jarvis who is an African-American woman was elected city councilwoman in Athens, Greece. |
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Eryemil (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 03:49 AM Response to Reply #12 |
30. Wow, she's pretty |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
14. No, but the USA is more of a progressive meritocracy |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Wrong. The US is tied with the UK for the lowest rate of mobility in the industrial world |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
15. Women but not minorities |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 05:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
36. TomClash |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 05:56 AM Response to Reply #15 |
38. Several women in Latin America too... |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 07:29 AM Response to Reply #15 |
45. A few more... |
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Hope And Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
16. Sweden`s current integration and equality minister is a black woman... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Canada's Governor General & Commander-in-Chief is also a black woman (from Haiti) |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Prior to that the GG was Adrienne Clarkson... |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. The governor-General is an honorary position, it has no real power |
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kskiska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
20. Most European leaders do not come from the general populace |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 04:29 AM Response to Reply #20 |
33. I don't think this is truer nowadays of most of Europe than the USA |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 08:04 AM Response to Reply #20 |
48. This is doubly true in the US, where Harvard and Yale are the "finishing schools" of the elite. |
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Thorandmjolnir (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #20 |
52. That is a load of Sh*t |
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kskiska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Elite political class of Europe |
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Thorandmjolnir (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Like I said, |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. An opinion piece in the highly Eurosceptical Telegraph means nothing |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
22. Unlike the US, most European countries have little history of importing blacks |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
23. Napolean |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
27. Although I'm actually starting to feel giddy about a win, I'm |
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Eryemil (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 03:57 AM Response to Original message |
32. Have you looked at the racial demogrpahics of Europe? |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 04:45 AM Response to Original message |
34. Nevermind, misread the OP. n/t |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 04:51 AM Response to Original message |
35. And heck, here in Norway, not only are black (or Asian) Norwegians |
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entanglement (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 06:28 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Europeans are very progressive in matters concerning other Europeans |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 07:15 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. That is true. |
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roberto (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #40 |
49. This is true |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 05:53 AM Response to Original message |
37. Perú elected a Japanese-Peruvian in 1990... nt |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 06:43 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Of course he proceeded to steal the country blind! |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. LOL... |
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entanglement (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 06:19 AM Response to Original message |
39. "Liberal" Europe's (minus UK) business, political and intellectual leadership is ethnically cleansed |
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roberto (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
41. is it a joke ? It depends rather in the idiosyncrasy of the country. |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
44. Margaret Thatcher. Prime Minister of U.K. in the 80s |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
46. Here's some irony for ya. Middle and Far Eastern countries including |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. We don't trust women to host a game show on TV or to be spokesman for investmen firms. nt |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
50. A woman ran in France against Sarkozy (sp?) |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
55. America? Most progressive? Laugh. nt |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
57. Cannot recall specifics but am quite certain that some of the Scandinavian |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
59. How many times in how many versions is this question going to be asked? |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. some of us dont have 24/7 to read every single post in GD |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
60. Who cares? |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Amen Jeep |
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