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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 04:02 PM
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WP editorial smackdown! "The (destructive) Joe the Plumber Wurzelbacher Effect"
The Wurzelbacher Effect
Government has been spreading the wealth for many decades
Sunday, November 2, 2008; Page B06

Whatever Tuesday's voting brings, the national conversation sparked by the driveway encounter between Barack Obama and Joe the Plumber seems likely to have a lingering, and potentially destructive, effect. Consider: Eight years ago, George W. Bush was selling himself to the country as a compassionate conservative. Today, it is hard to detect even the faintest note of compassion in John McCain's railing against Mr. Obama as "redistributionist in chief."

The tired trope of campaigns past -- Democrats as voracious tax-and-spenders -- has been augmented in the closing days of Campaign 2008 with the accusation of socialistic wealth-spreading. The two charges are related but fundamentally different, in ways that matter for the future debate about the proper role of government. The tax-and-spend charge goes to the question of the size of government; the spread-the-wealth charge goes to the core of government's function. It is fair to worry about taxes being so high that they impede growth, or the safety net so comfortable that it discourages work. But Mr. McCain's anti-redistributionist argument, taken seriously, has profound implications for the nature of modern American government and the stability of the post-New Deal consensus about the government as ultimate safety net.

Take a look at the biggest-ticket items in the federal budget: Almost all, outside of spending on defense and veterans, are premised on at least an element of wealth-spreading. In Social Security, as the Congressional Budget Office has calculated, retirees who earned less get back a greater share of what they put into the system than higher-earning retirees; the Supplemental Security Income (SSI) program provides extra help for low-income elderly or disabled. That's wealth-spreading. Ditto Medicaid, the shared federal-state program to provide health care to the poor; unemployment insurance; the State Children's Health Insurance Program, for children whose families earn too much to qualify for Medicaid; food stamps; and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, the modern welfare program. Medicare, because of a sensible change adopted under the Bush administration, requires better-off seniors to pay higher premiums; it provides extra subsidies for low-income beneficiaries to pay for prescription drugs. The bulk of federal spending on education goes to students in disadvantaged schools (Title I for kindergarten through 12th grade) and to help lower- and middle-income students pay for college (Pell Grants). Most pointedly, since it mirrors the refundable credit that Mr. Obama proposes, the earned-income tax credit -- which Mr. McCain described in 1999 as a "much-needed tax credit for working Americans" -- provides extra income to the working poor....

Ironically -- perversely, even -- the railing against wealth-spreading comes at a time when the wealth has been spread less evenly than ever, although the economic downturn will no doubt reverse the trend temporarily....Mr. Obama's proposal to roll back the top bracket tax cuts and to bolster the bottom with refundable credits is an effort to address this inequity.

"I don't know when we decided to make a virtue out of selfishness," Mr. Obama said in Missouri on Friday. Not quite "ask not what your country can do for you" lyricism. But a start, perhaps, in explaining to the country the essential common sense of supposed gaffes: It is patriotic, as Democratic vice presidential candidate Joseph R. Biden Jr. said, for the rich to pay more for a country that has helped them gain more; it is "good for everybody," as Mr. Obama told Joe Wurzelbacher, when you spread the wealth around. These represent, in fact, a rather mainstream view -- and not a bad governing philosophy for the country in its current straits.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/01/AR2008110101797.html?nav=most_emailed
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 04:08 PM
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1.  "I don't know when we decided to make a virtue out of selfishness," Mr. Obama said ...
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 04:09 PM by stopbush
That would have been when Reagan took office.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 04:10 PM
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2. That sounds right. nt
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 04:14 PM
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3. When repugs at work bring up "wealth spreading"
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 04:14 PM by louis-t
One statement shuts them up: "Oh, so you'd rather the richest 5% get all the money and your clients get no money and then can't do business with you?"
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