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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:34 PM
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Who published Secret Service code names for the entire Obama family? MSNBC
Edited on Mon Nov-10-08 05:51 PM by wordpix
about to reveal them to the nation. (Thanks Tweety! not) This seems like the height of stupidity or a deliberate attempt to make the Obamas' security less secure. I would not doubt this is more Bushit from the worst of the repukes. :puke:
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camera obscura Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:34 PM
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1. Chill out. It happens every administration.
These codenames are mostly PR.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:52 PM
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13. so why have code names if they mean nothing?
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:01 PM
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19. Easy identification
It's the same reason phoenetic alphabets are used for a lot of things. You have a set of words that are very difficult to confuse with one another, which gives you something to work with more unambiguously over crowd noise, staticky radios, etc.

They're often quicker to say than "the First Lady" (there's situations where a quarter second is a big deal potentially), and more unambiguous than "Bush" ("Which one?!").

There's other sets that actually are genuine code words, but we don't get to hear those ones.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:04 PM
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22. Mainly for fun and tradition
That's all.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:35 PM
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2. These are all public names.
Yeesh. Calm down.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:36 PM
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3. Theorectically, Obama was already code named "Renegade" - n/t
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:37 PM
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4. They change them when the press finds out.
Happens all the time.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:39 PM
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5. actually I don't think they do
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:41 PM
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8. one of the girls is called radiance and I forget the other. :)
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:42 PM
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9. Rosebud - isn't that sweet? Michelle is Renaissance. Cool names. -eom
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:42 PM
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10. Rosebud (Sasha).
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:44 PM
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11. There's multiple sets of names
The public ones are just used for unambiguous identification like a phoenetic alphabet with a lot more letters; there's an additional set of classified ones used for planning and the like that we don't hear about, and which is probably a lot less gimmicky than some of the publicised codenames.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:40 PM
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6. The "code names" arose in the days before secure encrypted
communications were available. They are an old tradition, but releasing them does not compromise current security measures.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:40 PM
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7. ROFLMAO!!!!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:45 PM
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12. Here's a whole list:
President-elect Barack Obama: Renegade

Michelle Obama: Renaissance

Malia Obama: Radiance

Sasha Obama: Rosebud

Vice President-elect Joe Biden: Celtic

Jill Biden: Capri

President George W. Bush: Tumbler

First Lady Laura Bush: Tempo

Bill Clinton: Eagle

Hillary Clinton: Evergreen

Chelsea Clinton: Energy

George Bush: Timberwolf

Barbara Bush: Tranquility

Jimmy Carter: Deacon

Rosalynn Carter: Dancer

Amy Carter: Dynamo

Ronald Reagan: Rawhide

Nancy Reagan: Rainbow

Gerald Ford: Passkey

Betty Ford: Pinafore

Richard Nixon: Searchlight

Pat Nixon: Starlight

Lyndon Johnson: Volunteer

Lady Bird Johnson: Victoria

Lynda Bird Johnson: Velvet

Luci Baines Johnson: Venus

John F. Kennedy: Lancer

Jacqueline Kennedy: Lace

Caroline Kennedy: Lyric

John F. Kennedy Jr.: Lark

Dwight Eisenhower: Providence

Harry Truman: General

Ted Kennedy (during 1970 campaign): Sunburn

Kitty Dukakis: Panda

Scott McClellan: Matrix

Jed Bartlett: Eagle and Liberty

C.J. Cregg: Flamingo

Zoey Bartlett: Bookbag


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-obama_code_names_bdnov09,0,7865884.story?page=1
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:56 PM
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14. and why do they call bush tumbler?
for fALLING ON his face all the time?
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:57 PM
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15. for falling down while eating a pretzel?
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:03 PM
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20. I figured he spent too much time draining them (nt)
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:43 PM
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23. You Forgot Two Names - Though Their Retired Now.......
John McCain - Gramps

Sarah Palin - Caribou Barbie
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:57 PM
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16. Code names are now more of a Secret Service tradition, and no longer necessary for security.
It used to be that they'd use old fashioned unscrambled analog police radios, and they'd have to speak in code, using these code names, in order to prevent breaches of security.

Now they use encrypted digital communications, so they no longer have to worry about eavesdropping, thus the code names are no longer required for security. They are keeping them around for fun and tradition.
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:59 PM
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17. Al Gore is so boring that his Secret Service code name was...
Al Gore.

Al Gore told that one on himself, and I think it's hysterical.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:01 PM
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18. Obama's code name was "44" a few weeks ago
someone called Ed Shultz a few weeks ago and said he was told the SS were already calling him "44".
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:03 PM
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21. These names have no real security value any longer
We aren't in the 1930s any more.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:45 PM
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24. These have been out for a while now
I saw them on Wikipedia a few weeks ago.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:49 PM
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25. NBC Nightly News just showed them
I do expect the Secret Service has planned for this.
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