Vinnie From Indy
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Sat Nov-15-08 09:04 PM
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Why Have No Other Westerners Been Beheaded in Pakistan & Iraq? |
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It seems a bit odd that men that would so publicly murder an American would just stop. Of course, the murder of Daniel Pearl and the others happened JUST as the Bushies needed an extra umph to sell the Iraq War and the veiled War on Islam to get Americans scared. I have always wondered if these guys were killed by the Bushies solely for propaganda value.
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Sat Nov-15-08 09:07 PM
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1. Sounds like you're disappointed. |
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Sat Nov-15-08 09:08 PM
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2. Why did Moussaoui send an email from Nick Berg's laptop? |
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That one always bothered me.
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Sat Nov-15-08 09:31 PM
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8. What the fuck? I thought you were kidding until I looked it up. |
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Sat Nov-15-08 09:35 PM
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9. You're like the 10th person that's told me that |
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It's just really, really weird.
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Sat Nov-15-08 09:44 PM
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11. This is just conspiracy free-association- I'm just thinking out loud but... |
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...the thought just occurred to me that if he was a pawn in someone's game, with a tidbit like that they could have played him either way. They could have set him up as a terrorist-by-association or an innocent who happened to be a victim of a number of unusual circumstances.
I...I...guess I have to admit that such a possibility exists. Not specifically for Nick but whether intelligence agencies/organelles/agents would have the intel to be able to carry off manipulations like that. The last time I ever heard of anyone being played like that, actually it wasn't even near what I'm speculating about- but the last time I can recall anything approaching that magnitude was when Cheryl Hanin seduced Israeli whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu and, in the throes of their affair, lured him from London to Rome where the Mossad kidnapped him. That was way back in '86.
My point has nothing to do with Israel, it's that stuff like that seemingly goes down only in the rarest of circumstances.
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Sat Nov-15-08 10:16 PM
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13. That way lies madness |
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But that way is a way I can't help going sometimes.
Kind of like 9/11.
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Sat Nov-15-08 09:09 PM
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3. Ugh! The thought makes me sick. |
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Edited on Sat Nov-15-08 09:10 PM by tblue
I think there are more evil secrets in our gov't than we'll ever know or even dream of. From what I know and have read so far, anything is possible. It would shock me, but it wouldn't entirely surprise me, if that makes any sense. Good question. What was so compelling about Daniel Pearl? His death didn't accomplish as much as would, say, the assassination of a political leader, from the perspective of the perpetrators, I mean.
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Sat Nov-15-08 09:09 PM
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4. Oh, the horror of his death. The shock of being reminded of it. |
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I knew him as a teenager, a wonderful boy and very charming. Brilliant and charming. His parents and sisters, one of the best, most loving families I've ever known. How someone could takehislife so brutally is beyond my imagination. I understand it, but I'm incapable of understanding it.
The horror. Truly, the horror.
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Sat Nov-15-08 09:13 PM
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5. Wrong question - should be why don't we HEAR about Westerners Been Beheaded in Pakistan & Iraq |
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Sat Nov-15-08 09:15 PM
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6. Because they found the "price point" for |
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such heinous behavior. The terrorists saw that their losses in terms of world opinion and in perhaps future converts outweighed any gains they sought in the world and their fellow believers.
They will still do terrible, awful, blood curdling things -- but not that.
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Sat Nov-15-08 10:01 PM
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Heinous as it was, the beheading of a supposed CIA agent doesn't come close to blowing up a market full of women, or a bus load of children - which they HAVE done. He was (claimed to be) an enemy agent, and a legitimate target. Not an innocent.
The reason it hasn't happened again is that the black ops team moved on to Iraq.
I will believe to my dying day he was murdered by this administration.
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Sat Nov-15-08 09:31 PM
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7. Pearl besides, I have always thought the other ones were Psy-Ops. |
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Throw-away people.
Nothing was right about those images.
Wearing watches and speaking in bull-shit dialect.
Nothing was right.
That's the first thing you look for.
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Sat Nov-15-08 09:36 PM
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10. At the time some website of video-heads did a breakdown of the Berg beheading tape... |
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...and though I have a serious aversion to gory images (I can recall images very vividly, sometimes unexpectedly) I went through their thread. I can't remember the name of the website. America or American something. Anyway, I haven't seen analysis that good outside of Zapbruder film buffs. It sounds like you're talking about the Berg tape and if you are, I agree. There are a number of things in that video which just don't add up based on who the purported killers are.
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Sun Nov-16-08 03:46 PM
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Sat Nov-15-08 10:18 PM
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14. The real reason? The Shi'ites killed the muj |
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After Margaret Hassan's death the Shi'ites went absolutely bat-shit angry/insane and wiped out the Sunni muj and every other Sunni within arm's reach.
It's sick and it's sad, but that's why.
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Sun Nov-16-08 04:33 PM
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16. there's nothing much to wonder about |
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it seems clear to me that * "let it happen" thru carelessness or stupidity when it came to 911, he "let it happen" as far as bin laden escaping into pakistan by providing such a long lead time before we actually went after the guy, and so on
pakistan was given a free reign to harbor terrorists at such time as it suited bush to provide that free reign, for propaganda purposes is one way to describe it, but ask yourself what is the purpose of the war on islam? do you really think * is such a good christian that he wanted to re-fight the crusades?
naw...the purpose was to destabilize the region and inflate the price of oil, resulting in massive profits to halliburton, exxon-mobil, and so on
follow the dollar
* gave pakistan a long leash, deliberately, for purposes of personal profit
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