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rsmith6621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:57 AM Original message |
Transient ordered to pay $101M for setting California fires |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yes, they should have given him a chance and cut the fine to 10 million. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
2. And people wonder what's wrong with America: |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Oh, please. All he has to do is run for The Senate as a Republican in Alaska. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. self delete |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
19. The fine part is stupid |
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loyalkydem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
4. Besides |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Everybody knows it would be impossible to recover that |
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nancyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
5. Well then, that should take care of it. |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
52. Word n/t |
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RollWithIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
6. Wait, so you're upset that an arsonist who caused over a 100 million in damage has to pay? |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I was wondering that myself. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Perhaps it's the absurdity of fining a homeless man |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. He's not an arsonist. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. why do people get away with murder by being mentally ill, but this guy doesn't? |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Crazy people do not "get away with murder" because they do not *commit* murder. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. not true. |
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RollWithIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #11 |
22. Ok, the guy is mentally ill, I'll give you that, but we're not talking about one accident... |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. "Mentally ill" people can indeed be arsonists, but this guy isn't one. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Then he should be locked up until he is cured and no longer a danger to the general public |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I agree, although I don't think there's a cure for schizophrenia |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #11 |
30. I've always wondered... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
44. Because we have become short-sighted and mean spirited as a nation. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
54. The stats on how many of those in prison are just people |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
47. Well he may never get ahead in life because of this |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
7. Tough Shit On Him. Being Homeless Doesn't Mean You Aren't Subjected To The Law. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. True, being elected pResident or Vice President is the requirement for being above the law...n/t |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. Yeah. What Was That Paranoid Schizophrenic Guy Thinking? |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Its right next to all |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
12. It's such an exercise in futility... |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
13. he is ahead right now. He now has a home for 4 years. |
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CitizenPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
14. he started 2 separate fires |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
15. They can order whatever the hell they want |
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LittleApple81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
16. He is NOT AN ARSONIST. see post 11. PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIC. |
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spinbaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. If you've ever known a paranoid schizophrenic, |
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LittleApple81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. I have a very dear friend that has that decease. It got so bad she was sleeping in the |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
24. I'm guessing it's mostly symbolic |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
26. Only four years in prison? |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
29. Well I think it's obvious they'll never see the 101 million |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
32. They should of dropped the fine and given him more time in jail. n/t |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. Why don't they treat his mental illness instead? |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
57. Hopefully he will get help in prison. Hell, prisoners get dental, etc. & we can't on the outside!nt |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
33. Maybe he can claim he's "too big to fail" and tap congress for a bailout. |
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123infinity (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
35. Well, he'll be 54 when he gets out...if he lives to 70 he can pay easy monthly installments of |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
36. How did they know it was him? |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. That's what I don't get. |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Oops, sorry it was just an accident. Just a bit of fun. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. No need to roll your eyes at me. |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. What part of arson don't you understand? |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Arson means the intent was to cause damage. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #40 |
55. thank you |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Yes. I can understand the strong feelings. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
37. So not knowing anything about this guys background, I can only suppose that |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
38. Four years isn't enough. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
39. So as punishment he gets a bed and meals for the next 4 years? |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Hey, as long as he's off the streets. -nt- |
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meow2u3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
50. Where the hell is a homeless guy going to get the $101M? |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
51. I know the fine for that person is absurd, but the fine is not contingent upon a person's ability .. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
56. If only this nation had some place where people with mental health problems |
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