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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 03:48 PM Original message |
Not a Single FUCKING mention of Mass Transit. BILLIONS for new Highways in BLUE areas. |
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Kazak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yeah, we need to get on that... |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. The problem is: Kerry was from Boston. Obama's from Chicago. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-28-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
56. Chicago's transit system sucks. I moved to Chicago from Boston, |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. See the Kerry-Spector High Speed Rail Bill |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Something stupid about HSR? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. No, the NYTimes article |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I am far left? And what the fuck does HSR have to do with transit? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Did you write the article? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. You honestly don't have a clue about the subject? Intercity rail has little to do with mass transit |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. I'm referring to the NY Times article |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. i think stimulus plans that call for $800 billion before a plan is in place are what's stupid. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Let's put it a different way: Obama can't fund something local Dems oppose |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I don't see Kucinich. I see Kerry. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Did Kerry write the article? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Thanks for the insult to the OP (me) |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. You write for the NY Times? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. What is? Could you tell us more? I know Kerry's a supporter of mass transit |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. So what's this? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Has nothing to do with rapid transit. Study the subject |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
8. There is a single major problem for new mass transit projects |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Americans would have to get used to people |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Adapt or pass away. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I'm a big supporter of HSR. But it has little to do with transit. It is long distance travel |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. People who become used to rail |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Now that, I agree with. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. You miss the point. NO ONE will Adapt or drown, just resist harder |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. I disagree. They will adapt. Just as the Europeans have and the Asians. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. But did I do the right thing with my kid or what? |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Yes I'd say you did! |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. The main problem with NYT as an example is people use it to beat the head as an exception. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Extending fast, safe, efficient mass transit into low density areas will be expensive. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Here in MD, the most liberal delegates just said that folks who wanted to spend more money on transt |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Is it me? Or did the US lose the stomach for thinking big? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
44. If I took the Amtrak Acela, which I'd love to do on a regular trip I take... |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. And that's another problem I was hinting at, the urban planning focus on affluent mobility |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. That is the biggest drawback to true mass transit outside of cities |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. That is also an argument against HSR or air travel. Also, why outside of cities? |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. See, I disagree with the notion that mass transit has to be noisy, messy, smelly, and unpleasant. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Read some of the airline threads |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. I guess it's a learned cultural standard, but it can be unlearned. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Agree |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Unfortunately, it appears nothing is done until after there is a body count. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
26. A great shame. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
30. Well, it's good to see somebody else stand up for American construction workers. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. if they combine public works with braceros, it will benefit neither immigrants nor US jobs |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
37. Thanks for the important thread Ghost! |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
40. I don't know about the rest of the nation, but Oregon manages to get federal funding |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. It seems to be learned helplessness. Not unlike the attitude of our leaders in general, I might add |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. It's amazing that planners don't include rail links to the airports |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
41. Why can't we do something like this? |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
48. I don't know all the ins and outs about public transportation, but shouldn't the local area & state |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. My point is that local and state refuse to support it even if their share of the funds is small. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. We're finally getting light rail here in the Phoenix area and it came about through |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
50. the high speed rail bill passed in cali |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. HSR is a lone bright spot on the horizon. Trouble is, with declining transit support at local level |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-28-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. it has to be better than the current system |
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