Very confused about disinterest in what international news sources are calling India's "9/11"...

[republicansarewhores]

The news from Mumbai is horrifying and has serious implications regarding the already fragile state of affairs between India and Pakistan. Work news sites are calling this India's "9/11" and also likening it to the London bombings.

And I am barely seeing any discussion about it here in any of the major DU sections, we're still focused on "Palin in 2012", the Walmart trampling and our economy.

No one is curious as to how this will be effecting the state of world peace on the other side of the world? It's effect on our own occupation in the middle east, and possible escalation? Who is responsible? Why?

It blows me away how the world collectively came together for us in 2001, but I'm barely seeing any concern from the US or outcry of the same level because we are so absorbed in our own issues and bubble here.

Shame on U.S.

RAW

[JI7]

1. there are many threads on it

[babylonsister]

2. Bull. We just had 3 days of non-stop news. Yes, it sucked.

How about years of war since 2003. Have you heard about that? What do you make of that?

Shame on us for lots of things. LOTS.

[republicansarewhores]

3. Really?

I haven't seen barely a peep about it today with the other details coming out and the past couple days I didn't see much about it aside from the breaking news threads. We are a short attention span nation.

RAW

[Enrique]

5. have you posted any of this news here to DU?

:shrug:

[republicansarewhores]

9. Well here are some for ya.

'I was told to kill to my last breath': Captured terrorist's account of Mumbai massacre reveals plan was to kill 5,000

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1090546/I-told-kill-breath-Captured-terrorists-account-Mumbai-massacre-reveals-plan-kill-5-000.html

Grief, anger as India reckons with its own "9/11"

http://in.reuters.com/article/topNews/idINIndia-36780320081129

Mumbai attacks: 'It's war' declares Indian press
The world's media reflect on the terrorist attacks in Mumbai

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2008/nov/28/mumbai-terror-attacks-pakistan

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[babylonsister]

11. Yes. Lots. Look it up. He's been incredible. nt

[republicansarewhores]

13. LOL.

Wow.

Guess I touched a nerve with people who are more interested in "Black Friday" and holiday shopping.

Whatever guys and gals. Sorry to have woken you up or guilted anyone unnecessarily.

Back to the regular topics. Move along.

RAW

[babylonsister]

16. I didn't shop, and you're an ass. We found your nerve. nt

[tekisui]

45. Go to the GD Forum, order posts by author,

and find the page with 'tekisui' posts. You will see a LOT on the Mumbai bombings. A LOT.

[republicansarewhores]

4. Years of war since 2003...

What do I make of "THAT"? LOL. Check my history to see my input on this forum brainiac.

RAW

[babylonsister]

7. OK. nt

[elleng]

6. You may be interested in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4559369

[republicansarewhores]

8. I see a lot of reactionary defensive responses

And going back 12 pages in this General Discussion forum to Thursday yields maybe about 4 topics on each of the pages. The rest is about Black Friday, American politics, Thanksgiving, Palin in 2012, etc.

I've been getting the news from news sites when I usually find the big stuff and details here in the past.

Just sayin'... it's very curious.

RAW

[babylonsister]

14. Contribite to DU. You can't search this site til you do. And

this joint is jumping, occasionally. Lots of info here.

And if you can't find it, ask.

[republicansarewhores]

18. I don't have to contribute to search...

I just went back 12 pages to two days ago when the story broke to see what's been written and it ain't much.

Why so many people are jumping on the gangbang questioning me and not talking more about the story with this pipsqueek terrorist they took alive seems to be a waste of effort don't you think?

I'm curious as to what more they will find out from him if anything about who masterminded this and why or if something will happen to silence him despite the fact he will be a treasure trove of information for investigators.

I feel worst for the families and victims as I would assume most people would. There were more victims discovered now than they originally thought, the death count is up to 300 from earlier estimates of under 100.

RAW

[muriel_volestrangler]

28. Well, there are these:

GD:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4554548
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4551953
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4553626
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4551106

LBN:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3620671
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3622202
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3621284
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3621316
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4548752

And those are the easiest for me to find, because those are the ones I've posted to in the previous 48 hours. But there are plenty more. Try a Google search:

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ademocraticunderground.com+mumbai+terrorist&btnG=Search

As for the 1 captured terrorist: it's not easy to know how much coming out is reliable information, and how much is what journalists' contacts somewhere in the police/anti-terrorist squad/whatever have heard as rumours, but are passing on as if they were present at the interrogation. Like all major sudden stories, lots of things come out which prove to be inaccurate a few hours or days later. We can speculate here, but none of us really know anything - there's no-one here who has even worked in the Indian police, as far as I know, or dealt with Pakistani terrorists. It's surprising how many people had never heard that Bombay had been renamed to Mumbai. DU isn't really the place to come for knowledgeable speculation on this matter, I'm afraid. We can do a bit of collating from news sources while they speculate, that's all.

[Bluebear]

10. I don't remember seeing you here for three days talking about it. Why not?

Why didn't you start a topic on this here three days ago?

Why?

[republicansarewhores]

12. Ummmm....

Because as more details are coming out now that they captured one of the terrorists alive there is more to disseminate and examine?

Defensive much?

RAW

[Enrique]

20. i'm not defensive, you are

[Forkboy]

22. .....

:rofl:

[Trajan]

24. A-hole much ?

Geez ... And I was just about to throw you a 'Welcome to DU' party ....

Fuck that ....

[Bluebear]

26. Aw they've been a member since 2004, with 500 or so "confused" posts

The welcome wagon done came and went for this one. :rofl:

[Dorian Gray]

30. I would have liked to see

more discussion on the topic, myself, as I've been fascinated by the story and checking up on all news sources about it since Wednesday night. However, instead of "reprimanding" us for not including more topics about this (which, to be fair, there were many more Black Friday topics like you said), why don't you start some topics, including the news sources that interest you. I'd be thankful for those, as I'm sure other posters would be.

[progdonkey]

15. maybe because there were already so many threads about it?

And the OP didn't want to get lost in the mix. ;)

[merwin]

17. Last night in the Hotel I was in, the only channel to have anything about it was

FOX News. Of course, it was breaking news. Everything is breaking with them. Even breaking wind.

[republicansarewhores]

19. That's what I mean...

It's as big as the subway bombings but the coverage doesn't seem to be as extensive with horrific details coming out and death toll and I find it curious since it's not a "white" country. I guess I'm wondering if this has something to do with what seems to be dispassionate outcry or reaction.

RAW

[Waiting For Everyman]

21. It's been on CNN every time I turned it on.

But nothing very interesting is being said, not that I'd expect that for a while until more is known.

Personally, I don't appreciate the "shame on U.S." attitude as usual. No thanks, I'm not accepting any "shame" on behalf of my country, I'm done with that. Just what should we be doing? We have a lame duck idiot who we're better off not responding, and a President-Elect not in office yet, who sent his condolences. I'm sure there's more going on behind the scenes too, which we aren't privy to.

Just what is so missing? Hand wringing? I'd say we have enough that we DO know about for that. This reminds me of the threads that want us to be mad at Obama before he does anything.

Ok here you go... bad, bad terrorists! I think it's a given that we all abhor this kind of thing, isn't it? Or by not saying so endlessly, are we siding them now?

Actually the one thing I'm curious about so far, is why the terrorists chose what is called the "financial capital" to do this in? I don't expect to hear that answered anytime soon.

[Trajan]

23. Whining that DU's children wont conform to your needs ...

DU is what DU is ....

If you don't like it, you know where the door is ...

[AZBlue]

38. WTF?

Have a bad day? Take it out on someone else.

[Hekate]

25. Try a Search. My biggest concern is that CNN seemed to be the only news station doing real reporting

CNN did a great job on this by putting on their international news team, which is always better than Wolf Blitzer et al.

MSNBC, however, was a gross disappointment--they held to their regularly scheduled program of marathon prison-based reality shows, which are nauseating enough, and completely and utterly ignored India's 9-11.

As for DU, I just did a Search for Mumbai and was told that my "search criteria returned too many topics. Only displaying first 189 pages." I'm not sure why you didn't find good discussions among all of that.

Shame on us? I don't think so. Do write to MSNBC, however, because they totally fell down on the job.

Hekate

[dipsydoodle]

27. Odd expression

given that they'd call it 11/9.

[hlthe2b]

29. And YOU are the ONLY ONE who cares...

Ok...Right :eyes:


What an incredibly childish post... much like its author.

[AZBlue]

39. Based upon the replies in this thread, it almost seems like they are.

[muriel_volestrangler]

43. No - this has been the only thread they've posted on , for a whole week

They didn't 'care' enough to make a single remark on the Mumbai attacks, until they started a thread to complain that 'no-one is talking about it'. And when people have replied pointing out the multiple threads in which it has been discussed, they haven't bothered replying to those posts. Perhaps because they've been shown to be wrong.

They came here to slag off DUers, rather than discuss the attacks, or even engage in a discussion about the coverage.

[TexasObserver]

31. Oh, stop it! Stop with the "shame on U.S." nonsense.

There have been terror attacks by extremist Muslim groups (and others) for the past 40 years. While these events are terrible, only after 9-11 did we completely lose all perspective and act as if one event should define the world.

This event in India is a tragedy, but keep it in perspective. It's on the order of someone shooting down a commercial airplane.

The worst thing we could do, as Americans, is act as if every time a handful of goobers with AK 47s kill a bunch of innocent people, we have to change anything we're doing. Ignoring them, ignoring their cause, and treating them like the isolated nutjobs they are is the best path.

It's a tragedy, but life goes on, and we'll all get over it except those directly affected by the cowardly deeds of these cowardly men.

[AZBlue]

40. There's a big difference between being paralyzed by fear and discussing relevant matters

in an intelligent and civil manner.

[w4rma]

32. Sure, it should be in the news more. But, we have many issues to deal with here that will affect

everyone else, also.

[AZBlue]

41. Unfortunately this affects us just as much as the bad economy or anything that happens here.

[treestar]

33. The one thing the US still manufactures is war materials

Now the India has all the jobs, they can afford to buy military hardware. Maybe the MSM is secrety happy and too ashamed to show their glee? Nah. :sarcasm:

[G_j]

34. I don't know what to say,

except that I am horrified.
I've been keeping up with the news.

[lunatica]

35. You don't know what your talking about. Look at these threads...

Before you get all uptight about what we're doing, how about what you're doing? And while your busy criticizing everyone on this thread look at what other threads there are just in the Latest Breaking News page:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=102

As of my post right now these are the headlines just in the first 19 threads

Taj Mahal hotel owner: We had warning
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3623429

CNN: Taj Hotel Siege Over, last 3 attackers killed
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3620671

Indian media react angrily to Israeli criticism of Chabad rescue operation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3622500

Minister 'quits' over Mumbai attacks
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3623677

[Quantess]

36. You're making an assumption that people don't care because there aren't many heated discussions

about it.

Usualy, if there is nothing to argue about, people have no interest in discussing it. It does not mean that we don't care.

[AZBlue]

37. I agree with you and even posted something last weekend about it.

Surprisingly too many DU'ers feel that unless it happens here, it doesn't matter. It's sad.

[bigtree]

42. The reticence may be out of concern about yet another excuse for the cons

. . . to justify their 'war on terror' and escalate their anti-democratic responses. I would follow Pres. Obama's cautious lead and watch for any overreach, deliberate or otherwise.

[TexasObserver]

44. 150 dead is hardly "India's 9-11"

It's a tragedy, not unlike many such tragedies that we've seen the past 40 years.

NOT responding like it is another 9-11 is the sanest approach.

A year when there are no Islamic extremists killing a few hundred innocent people would be news. This is the same story that runs every year or two, with a different group as the perps, but the same idiotic approach. The best we can do is to punish the guilty states who support them.

[bunkerbuster1]

46. More to the point, it's not anything like the worst attack India's experienced.

Not to minimize the horror and brutality of last week's murder, but I suspect that Indians (including those I've spoken to) put this in perspective better than we tend to.

The independent nation emerged from a hideously violent war that happened within living memory, and has had three wars with its neighbor since then. We haven't.

[TexasObserver]

47. India is a billion people with hostile nuclear powers on either side.

Kashmir is a longtime hot spot, a tug of war point among those nations.

India will weather this, and do so much better than the US dealt with 9-11.


One of the memes I have loathed the past several years is the "India's 9-11," or "Spain's 9-11," or "Britain's 9-11."

3000 dead among 300,000,000 is not remotely close to 150 dead among 1,100,000,000. It was a tragedy, and India will quickly recover from it. They'll do so without overreacting, the way America overreacted to 9-11.