Oakland Ca ... dumpster set on fire .. Bart Protesters

[proud patriot]

live news coverage has broken into nightly programming .

KRON 4 BART is not stopping at 2 Oakland stations..

edited for link to follow new developments

http://www.kron.com/

[thunder rising]

1. And here we go.

[Uzybone]

2. The authorities need to quit dicking around and charge that fucking cop

Do they want to wait until people take to the streets?

[CreekDog]

12. Is the Alameda County DA doing anything???

Have we heard a peep from them on this? :wtf:

[CreekDog]

18. They could at least investigate

The DA seems to be silent on this.

[my2sense]

3. I hope they charge the bastard that shot

Oscar Grant before all this gets out of control.

[proud patriot]

4. Both Fruitville and Lake Merrit Stations are closed

They are asking people to get off at the Coliseum
Station and bus to Fruitville and Lake Merrit.

[rvablue]

33. Wow...moved from there several years ago...but it does not surprise me what

happened is causing this outrage..........

[dixiegrrrrl]

5. Link to very clear new video of the shooting...

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/01/06/18559091.php


edited to add:
The officer has resigned...

http://www.mercurynews.com/peninsula/ci_11401111

[proud patriot]

6. Holy smokes

thanks for posting that

[Canuckistanian]

8. "That's fucked up" - over and over

And even BEFORE the shooting.

The people on that train knew what was happening. And the gunshot just shocked them into silence.

[fishwax]

27. thanks for posting that

:grr:

[stranger81]

29. I'm utterly speechless -- that video is a punch to the gut.

The crowd should have rushed those officers on the spot.

I literally feel sick now.

[Cults4Bush]

37. Not murder, just assassination.

From one gang to another.

[malaise]

40. Execution by cop

Jail for life - nothing else will do.

[Zywiec]

42. WTF?

The cop shouldn't of had a gun out in the first place. How did he feel threatened in any way?

Thank God for cameras!

[proud patriot]

7. KRON reports protesters laying down in the streets taunting cops

"they are raising their shirts asking the cops to shoot them"

:patriot:

[StudsT]

9. i wonder how close we are to a greek like explosion?

this is the kinda thing that could push folks over the tipping point.

StudsT

[proud patriot]

10. People are at their tipping point I'm afraid

it won't take much more IMO

[truedelphi]

30. Slightly off topic, but

Didn't you die recently??

Maybe it takes a whole lot more to keep a great writer from posting and you found a way to do it from Beyond the Great Beyond, but thanks for all the reading pleasure you've given me over the decades, Mr T.

[CreekDog]

11. Though it's wrong to set a dumpster on fire

the protest has been largely peaceful.

and they didn't shoot and kill and innocent person as the BART cop did.

[proud patriot]

14. The news is reporting protesters tried to tip a police car

and when they couldn't do that the protesters set the
dumpster on fire .


The video posted below shows what happens

[CreekDog]

15. i prefer nonviolence but i'm focused on the greater crime

that's for sure. i hope the protestors keep protesting until the DA does the investigation this case merits.

[proud patriot]

17. Same here , that's why I'm here and not out there right now

I'll get my protest out with a sign in my car window .

[proud patriot]

13. New Video of confrontation with police 30 min ago on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DzqfE-LDzM

[StudsT]

16. K&R

thanks for sharing :toast:

StudsT

[Liberal_in_LA]

20. At the end they are trying to tip the police car but don't have the strength.

[TroglodyteScholar]

19. K&R

The vid linked by dixiegrrrrl is both damning and heartbreaking.

What the fuck is going on in this country?

[CreekDog]

22. what's even more damning is the lack of action from the County DA

to even investigate this.

[TroglodyteScholar]

25. I just learned of this story a little while ago...

Has the DA not even made any kind of statement?

[High Plains]

21. "No justice, no peace. Fuck the police."

A sentiment dear to my own heart.

[RedCappedBandit]

23. How can we expect nonviolent protest

in a country whose government kills its own citizens?

just sayin.

[proud patriot]

24. KRON is showing a car fire near a line of cops

block by block, very disorganized bands of very pissed off people

[proud patriot]

26. Mayor Ron Dellums is talking with angry citizens , trying to calm things down

saying "let justice take it's course" the Mayor wants to "see justice" .

[proud patriot]

28. Dellums told the police to disburse

and is walking with protesters back to city hall

[stranger81]

31. God bless Ron Dellums.

Oakland is lucky to have him, especially right now.

[CreekDog]

36. Dellums has been a terrible mayor, and is rarely seen, however tonight he gets credit

for coming out.

[CreekDog]

32. but the DA has to start investigating for justice to have a chance

that's the failing here.

[slackmaster]

47. Ron is a good guy

I hope people listen to him.

[Moochy]

34. K&R

I can attest to this, there were loads of armed BART cops!! :mad: inside the 12th st. station and the doors didn't open.

[npk]

35. They are setting black owned businesses on fire

From article:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/07/MN2N155CN1.DTL


Protesters smashed the storefronts of McDonald's as well as stores called Creative African Braids and Oakland Yoon's Pharmacy. Cars along 14th Street were smashed, and some were set ablaze.

A woman walked out of Creative African Braids holding a baby in her arms.

"This is our business," she shouted. "This is our shop. This is what you call a protest?"

Nia Sykes, 24, of San Francisco, a protester who was with the group, said, "I feel like the night is going great. I feel like Oakland should make some noise. This is how we need to fight back.

"It's for the murder of a black male," said Sykes, who is black. The demonstration "is totally appropriate."

Sykes had little sympathy for the owner of Creative African Braids.

"She should be glad she just lost her business and not her life," Sykes said. She added that she did have one worry for the night: "I just hope nobody gets shot or killed."


How exactly is this getting justice for AA.

:wtf:

[Marrah_G]

38. Unbelievably fucked up

The new video of the shooting that is.

No wonder people are rioting.

[dysfunctional press]

39. shouldn't this be in the california state forum?

:shrug:

it's not really a national story.

[malaise]

41. It's not just national

It's an international story. Cops are not supposed to execute citizens in democracies.

[Heidi]

43. Google News yields 950 news items related to this story, and it's being reported internationally.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24887896-5005961,00.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/4149902/Family-of-man-shot-in-back-by-police-sue-for-25m.html

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-01/08/content_10624186.htm

http://eurweb.com/story/eur49936.cfm

[Bluenorthwest]

44. This is an international story of shame

And it should be in every single forum. Each state forum should right now be discussing this murder, and trying to find ways to make sure such abuses do not happen in those states. That's what I think.

[my2sense]

45. WTH

You mean a BART officer being judge, jury and executioner of a citizen he is charged to protect yet slaughters in cold blood with several video accounts is NOT national news.

You better think again - this could have been any of us. Unfortunately it was the life of a black man which in America doesn't seem to have much value. Some folks would be able to muster up more outrage had it been dog.

[slackmaster]

46. Like most rioters, they're crapping in their own yard

No good will come of it, other than some entertainment value.