Th1onein
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:30 PM
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Do you think Bush knows, now, how HATED he was by his own people? |
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Edited on Tue Jan-20-09 01:31 PM by Th1onein
I think he might have. I'm wondering if, at last, he did the right thing by not nuking Iran, not issueing pardons to himself and his fellow torturers?
Nah.
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:31 PM
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1. His faced turned red during part of the speech... Anyone else notice that? |
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:32 PM
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as he walked out. He heard them.
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:34 PM
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how SURROUNDED he was by Secret Service Agents??
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:35 PM
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8. Ready to take a shoe for Lord Pissypants |
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:34 PM
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6. Also looked pissed during parts of Obama's speech |
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:38 PM
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13. That's probably the closest thing we'll get in the way of justice n/t |
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Edited on Tue Jan-20-09 01:38 PM by cynatnite
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Tangerine LaBamba
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:31 PM
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2. I suspect he ended up scared, |
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knowing how badly he'd fucked up, hearing talk about criminal charges being brought, and I further suspect that he made a deal with Obama - an orderly and civil transition, no antics, no monkeyshines by Fuckface, and Obama would let him off by not pursuing a criminal investigation.
However, there's no saying what Congress might do.
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:40 PM
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15. It would be a hoot to hear that Bill and Hillary were stage-whispering "investigation" and "illegal" |
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to each other the whole way through the ceremony.
Payback's a bitch you Republicon chicken-puckers.
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:57 PM
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17. Look. Justice is not a matter of going after this person or that person. |
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It is a matter of addressing wrongful conduct. If anyone in the Bush administration committed a crime, that person will face justice. If no crimes are found to have occurred, no criminal charges will be brought. Neither Obama nor any other president (other than Bush) has the authority to pursue a vendetta against someone. But every president has the duty to punish violations of law. Bush is claiming he did not violate any laws. We shall see. I think the torture authorizations violated U.S. and international law. We shall see.
This is an important distinction. That is because we want to focus on the rule of law, not political vendettas.
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Tangerine LaBamba
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Tue Jan-20-09 02:21 PM
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19. Look. Who said anything about justice? |
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I've spent my life as a lawyer. There's justice and there's justice. Your rhetoric is uninformed and doesn't take into consideration the realities of the political world.
I think your second and third sentences are indicative of a serious break from reality. You might want to re-think what you wrote, because history is not on your side.
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Tue Jan-20-09 03:56 PM
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23. You misunderstand me, Tangerine. I'm for prosecutions, but of |
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acts, specific violations of law. I have listened to Obama, and I believe that he agrees with me. It's not a matter of prosecuting individuals because we don't like them. It is a matter of prosecuting individuals because of their acts. Some of the language used on DU suggests that we are advocating for the prosecutions of members of the Bush administration because they are who they are. We are advocating for their prosecutions because of specific acts they committed -- such as torture.
I'm sorry for you if, as a lawyer, you would prioritize "the realities of the political world" ahead of justice. If we prioritized as you seem to suggest, we would not see what we see today -- the success of the civil rights movement. Barack Obama is president today because millions of people were brought to understand that the rule of law, justice, ultimately prevail over political realities.
And, by the way, I too am a lawyer. I've dealt with a lot of lawyers who have lost the faith in justice and the rule of law. They demean our profession which I consider to be a sacred trust.
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Tue Jan-20-09 03:59 PM
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24. I didn't put anything "ahead of justice". |
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Unlike you, I acknowledge the realities of political life.
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:33 PM
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4. Walking down the hall to the dais |
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he looked lost, lonely, scared and like he was ready to get this over with. Poppy looked frail.
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:35 PM
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9. Poppy could barely walk |
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That was a surprise. He had to hold on and use a cane.
Babs had two knee replacements, I read somewhere, and that old twat was just as mobile as could be.
I hate her most of all.
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Tue Jan-20-09 04:03 PM
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you tell them.
>I hate her most of all.
I wanted to change my sig file, but I do not EVER want to forget the nasty, unbelievable things that evil old woman had to say. I don't want anyone else to forget, either.
Julie
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:36 PM
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10. I confess to likening the elder Bush's to the "Weebles"...I told my |
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daughter (she's at class and was on the phone) that they were just weebling along.
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Tue Jan-20-09 02:15 PM
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18. I was waiting to see if he'd fall down the stairs like he (almost) did at the Olympics. |
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Then, while he and the President were walking down the stairs on the opposite side of the Capitol, I kept whispering to myself, "Push him. Push him NOW!":evilgrin:
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:34 PM
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He has no sense of anything except himself.
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:36 PM
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11. Yes he now knows the full hatred directed towards him. |
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I'm sure he's known it for some time, on some level even if that level was unconscious. But there is no denying that he now knows the vile directed towards him on all levels.
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:37 PM
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12. He will never go out in Public like Carter, Bush sr., Truman, Clinton did |
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Ball games and restaurants I'm not seeing it.
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:39 PM
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14. He's never been a bright one, |
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but who could look out at that crowd and not see how big it was in comparison to his crowds?
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:43 PM
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16. it was great watching him stew in his poutage |
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as Obama tore down the last 8 years as the catastrophic error it was.
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Tue Jan-20-09 02:25 PM
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sociopaths never acknowledge their weaknesses or faults.
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Tue Jan-20-09 02:27 PM
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He lives in that alernative universe where he can only see one perspective. He's the poster child of modern Conservatism and any self-reflecting he may have done was to justify his nefarious reign of error. He's too arrogant and dim-witted to realize most of this nation find him an incompetent buffoon.
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Tue Jan-20-09 02:33 PM
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he lives in his own reality. :-(
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Tue Jan-20-09 04:01 PM
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25. He'll never know. n/t |
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Tue Jan-20-09 04:02 PM
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26. I think he knows, but he doesn't care. |
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He still thinks he was right and that he had a mandate.
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Tue Jan-20-09 04:02 PM
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27. Maybe the question should be.. |
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Does Bush CARE what the American people think? No..no..and No.
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