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Thu Apr-29-10 10:53 AM
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My Grandfathers Were Bootleggers From Canada. Did SARAH PALIN Make That Up? |
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Edited on Thu Apr-29-10 11:02 AM by Segami
"Claimed bootlegging Canadian grandfathers in Hamilton speech
Sarah Palin may have told a big fat one while she was here.
Or maybe it was just the rambling, convoluted manner in which she delivered her 65-minute speech at Carmen's that has anti-Palin web users across the U.S. trying to figure out if she lied, misspoke or gave Hamilton exclusive new insight to her family tree.
The controversy, which has gained momentum since the former vice-presidential candidate was in town April 15 for a fundraising dinner, revolves around half a sentence I wrote in my column that night. I was describing how Palin's speech was largely about her family: "From her bootlegger grandfathers in Saskatchewan and Alberta, to the five children we know so much about."
Her granddads? Canadian bootleggers?
I started getting e-mails when my column hit The Spec's website.
"She is such a liar, did she actually say her grandfathers were bootleggers from Canada?" read one.
Yes, she did. She said it within the first 10 minutes of her speech. After she said, "Hello. Bonjour," and that Hamilton would be "a great place for an NHL franchise."
Some say Sarah Palin stretched the truth here.
She said her grandfathers were born in Alberta and Saskatchewan and were bootleggers -- "but that was a long time ago."
That skeptical e-mail included a link to The Daily Dish on The Atlantic magazine's website, where there was an excerpt from my column and a thread of discussion.
"This is news, it seems to me," says one post. "In her novel, Going Rogue, she mentions her father's 'hometown of North Hollywood, California. He was born in 1938 to the celebrity photographer Charlie Heath, who specialized in shooting famous prizefighters.' Was Charlie Heath also a part-time Canadian bootlegger from Saskatchewan? And she writes that her mother 'was born into a large, educated Irish Catholic family in Utah. Her father, Clement James Sheeran --everyone called him 'Clem' or 'CJ' -- was a mediator for General Electric and was wild about Notre Dame.' Was CJ also illegally smuggling liquor in Alberta -- via his work for GE? Or did she have two other grandfathers who were in the Canadian bootlegging business? Could she provide their names? Is she referring perhaps to Todd's grandfathers? Or are we in Palin's alternate reality here? Maybe a reporter could ask her?"
....."Neither of Palin's grandfathers was a bootlegger, nor did either come from Saskatchewan, Alberta or Manitoba," McGinniss told me.
"She must have felt that because her appearance in Hamilton did not receive extensive U.S. media coverage she could say anything. And so, in an attempt to bond with her audience -- in order to assure that she received their adulation as well as her $100,000 speaking fee -- she told them things she thought they'd like to hear, no matter whether true or false."
McGinniss continues: "I've been observing this tendency over the past several months, and it seems to have metastasized to the point where it might be called pathological sycophancy (i.e. a need to bask in the adulation of others that is so strong that it overrides honesty, decency and self-respect, causing the sufferer not only to defame others with exaggerated falsehoods, but to invent from whole cloth engaging anecdotes about one's own personal and family history...)"
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<http://www.thespec.com/News/Local/article/759724>
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Thu Apr-29-10 11:02 AM
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Thu Apr-29-10 11:07 AM
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3. Did she mention her so called ' Canadian ancestry ' in her book ' Going Rouge? |
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Thu Apr-29-10 11:10 AM
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5. I don't know, I never read it. The Alberta, Saskatchewan references |
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Thu Apr-29-10 11:16 AM
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7. Seems that such a colorful detail such as ' bootlegging or Canadian ancestry ' |
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would have been mentioned on Wikipedia.:shrug: < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin>
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Thu Apr-29-10 11:21 AM
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11. I agree, and the people of Alaska blogging about her would |
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have been all over that, one would think.
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Thu Apr-29-10 11:06 AM
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2. Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger.......Nah..../t |
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Thu Apr-29-10 11:10 AM
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4. maybe she's confusing herself with the Pulitzer Prize winning author... |
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...Wallace Stegner, whose father really was a bootlegger from Saskatchewan down to Salt Lake City and who wrote extensively about that part of his life in several of his books.
She's no Wallace Stegner. And I can't imagine that she's read his books.
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Thu Apr-29-10 11:13 AM
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6. Hamilton did have an NHL franchise, decades ago. |
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I bet she got some chuckles, she seems more like a freak show than someone legitimately contributing to anything up here.
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Thu Apr-29-10 11:22 AM
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12. Back in the 1920's. Nothing after that. They have been trying to get an NHL franchise ever since but |
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and would need the approval of Toronto & Buffalo's franchise board which is more than likely not going to happen.
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Thu Apr-29-10 11:25 AM
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14. I didn't realize it was that long ago, I just remember my Dad |
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Edited on Thu Apr-29-10 11:26 AM by polly7
telling me about it.
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Thu Apr-29-10 11:18 AM
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8. It appears it's Todd with roots to a small town in Manitoba. |
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The same town my own grandparents were from. "A check with some southwest Manitobans monitoring genealogical records shows that it’s Todd Palin, Sarah’s husband, who has the roots in this province. Brad Coe, a history buff in Hartney, said Todd’s grandfather Frederick William Palin was born in the town in February 1905 before eventually living with his parents and seven siblings in the Rural Municipality of Grey, in the area of Elm Creek and St. Claude." http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2010/04/17/13628256.html
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Thu Apr-29-10 11:19 AM
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9. The article doesn't mention what type of people attended the event... |
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Edited on Thu Apr-29-10 11:20 AM by proudohioan
but I would love to find out that her audience happened to be a bunch of Prohibitionists and Carrie Nation admirers (Smash, ladies, Smash - Drill, baby, drill???)!
It would serve her right!
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Thu Apr-29-10 11:28 AM
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15. I'd like to ask her how that "Drill, baby, drill" stuff is workin' out for her... |
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Seems that action is causing us catastrophic death and destruction at the moment... not to mention financial responsibility we don't need right now.
She's a fraud from top to bottom. All her good ideas, aren't. All of them.
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Thu Apr-29-10 11:40 AM
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16. Of course you KNOW that she would deny EVER USING THAT PHRASE! |
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That woman is certifiable, IMO!
But I have to disagree with one thing, though; she had a good idea to make beau-coup $$$$'s, and that (unfortunately) seems to be working like a charm.
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Thu Apr-29-10 11:53 AM
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17. I bet she isn't paying taxes on it though... |
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Snicker... she's just that arrogant... and just stupid enough to think that she can hide that whilst living in a fish bowl.
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Thu Apr-29-10 12:02 PM
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18. I'll place my bet with yours...... |
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and I hope that when the day comes (and we know it will), the IRS will rip her a new a**hole!
"Hide whilst living in a fish bowl." I love that one!!!
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Thu Apr-29-10 11:20 AM
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10. Now she's just a bootlicker |
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to big oil and the far-right GOP nut wing.
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Thu Apr-29-10 11:24 AM
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13. If anyone has a subscription to Ancestry.com it should be easy to |
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find out where 'her' grandfathers spent their years and possibly what they did. Quite often there are whole trees submitted by people who've researched them.
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Thu Apr-29-10 12:33 PM
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19. chances are if it came from her lips it's a lie. |
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