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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:41 PM Original message |
Are DUers not concerned about the latest Wikileaks release? |
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EmilyKent (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. No, there hasn't been a peep on here |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
54. +1 |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
67. You do realize I was specifically asking re: critical facilities document |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #67 |
118. I would be concerned |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. it gives our enemies and other assorted terrorists a good list of targets |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Bullshit arguement. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
20. really |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:16 AM Response to Reply #20 |
35. And simple google search for pharmaceutical companies would reveal the same thing. |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:29 AM Response to Reply #35 |
62. Somehow... |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #62 |
169. Google will also censor certain images by request of governments. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:34 AM Response to Reply #20 |
47. IMO anti-venom vaccines & insulin are not targets for those people. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
159. those factories were listed as priorities in those cables |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:40 PM Response to Reply #159 |
176. Depends on your operational objectives |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 12:35 AM Response to Reply #176 |
181. and we all know that terrorists subscribe to the Geneva Convention |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 12:45 AM Response to Reply #181 |
182. Hey I have been shot at plenty of times |
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benlurkin (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
27. Bullshit |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:20 AM Response to Reply #27 |
39. Easy enough to find with a google search. |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #27 |
41. You mean those four or five trans-Atlantic cables |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:52 AM Response to Reply #41 |
91. those were trans-Mediterranean cables, damaged twice in one year. |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 01:47 AM Response to Reply #91 |
183. Cable damage hits 1.7m Internet users in UAE |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 03:27 AM Response to Reply #91 |
184. More. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:50 AM Response to Reply #27 |
52. I'm more concerned our SOS has been stealing computer passwords at the UN |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:06 AM Response to Reply #27 |
71. True, they don't show it. But there are numerous private companies |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I don't mean to imply this entire issue is "black and white..." |
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HipChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. Listing out 'targets for terror' against the US makes it easy, listing the importance to US |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:03 AM Original message |
Many Wikileaks cheerleaders take great glee in US vulnerabilities being exposed |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
51. Sounds like you're a little low on duct tape nt |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:21 AM Response to Reply #51 |
63. delete... (sorry-- posted wrong place) |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:35 AM Response to Reply #51 |
83. low on duct tape! |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:14 AM Response to Reply #51 |
100. OMG Thinking the same thing. The info war is getting to everyone |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
74. I notice you didn't address my point that secrets come out freely when TPTB WANT them to. |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:56 AM Response to Reply #74 |
92. Cyberwarfare is hardly overhyped |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #92 |
160. Yes, because a cyberwarfare attack will not end civilization. The rest is espionage. |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
75. what bank account? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
164. We are cheering for freedom of the press .. vs "national security" state -- |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
28. Do you honestly think they didn't already know where most of it is? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
37. If the terrarist dont know about BAE Systems, for example |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
43. Assorted terrorists. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Bang on. nt |
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itzallanillusion (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
80. Nailed it! |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #2 |
97. I call BS. I could care less about the US being embarrassed - |
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Jeffersons Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
99. exactly |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
120. Not just targets, but soft targets. |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yes, I'm sure that without this list they wouldn't have a clue where to start. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. +1 |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
36. +2 nt |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. His threat gives TPTB a good reason to shut down the Internets. |
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PSPS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Hardly. Doing so would negatively affect the top 1%, so it's off limits. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Yes.. this thought has certainly occurred to me... |
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PSPS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Hardly. Doing so would negatively affect the top 1%, so it's off limits. |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
21. Well, if TPTB have the power to shut it down, might as well be with this rather than waiting... |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
55. there would be war if that happened. |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
8. I can't believe how many DUers there are who don't believe in a free press. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. that is a load of crap. nt |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. No it isn't. And from your post below....well.... n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. yes it is. you had to work really really hard to tie it into freedom of press |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. No I didn't... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. the old school didnt steal the mail out of these diplomats offices.... |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:01 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Neither did Assange or Wikileaks steal this mail from the offices of diplomats. They |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:27 AM Response to Reply #26 |
79. and in the day, journalists would not put out gossip, but report relevant. nt |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:33 AM Response to Reply #26 |
102. Thank you! And 'Deep Throat' spoke to REAL journalists and Ellsberg |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. they were crimes. not gossip about an alpha dog. nt |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #104 |
109. Is there gossip in the cables? Yep. Is there more relevant info? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #109 |
114. if you are going to have the info, and put it out, there comes responsibility. he failed |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #114 |
121. One example of many - again DO YOUR HOMEWORK. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #121 |
125. he is a piece of shit. but make him your hero. time will bare it out. betcha. nt |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #125 |
131. It's not all black and white out there. He isnt my hero - geez, like talking to the RW calling Obama |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. of course it is not black and white. but sure how you addressed it with me |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #132 |
136. How many people have to suggest you be executed b4 you do something |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #136 |
144. before you do something? you mean hurt innocent people that have nothing to do with anything? |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 03:44 AM Response to Reply #131 |
185. Whaddya know? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #185 |
191. what it does say, if someone does not fall in line with yawl, your pat answer is to call them rwer, |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #191 |
195. What do I know? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #195 |
196. damn, you are an ass. you have attacked with name calling every. single. post. |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #196 |
197. Bwahahahaha! |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #24 |
103. Sadly, I must concur that you are wrong on this - turn the tv off to get your info. n/t |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Please don't accuse me of that... I have never implied that... |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Who said I was accusing you of that. I wasn't. Your post is a good one. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:16 AM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Thank you for clarifying... n/t |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
30. guess you missed Senator Kerry's comments |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Oh, well if Kerry says it, I guess that makes it so. Doesn't he own stock in |
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azul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:59 AM Response to Reply #33 |
60. There is no proof that he lost. |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:49 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. And |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
166. True ... another stolen election in 2004 ... with no response by Democratic Party ... |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:55 AM Response to Reply #30 |
56. Too bad he isn't an anti-war activist in this era. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
59. When they say stuff like that, I'm so glad Dan is still here |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #59 |
167. +100% -- What WikiLeaks is revealing is the same as Pentagon Papers revealed.... |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #30 |
107. Would that be the same John Kerry |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
165. Kerry is a one time anti-war activist ... haven't seen much of that recently.... |
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azul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
49. Why do corporations and governments have the ability and rights |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
168. +1000% .... |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:46 AM Response to Reply #8 |
90. Stealing classified information is not "free press" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #90 |
170. If you understand what Pres. Carter explained .... |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #170 |
178. It's not whistleblowing; it's attention-whoring |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 12:05 AM Response to Reply #178 |
179. Rather what I'm hearing is viewers saying there is NO coverage of the cables.... |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
101. Yes. It saddens me to see it too. n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
10. i think the dude is a piece of shit. what is done, is done. people will have to clean up the mess |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
76. When my 6 year old comes in the kitchen and reports that the 3 year old knocked over the cereal bowl |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:27 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. when my 6 yr old tells me something in confidence to figure out an issue, i dont put on the net |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:33 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. No, you'd apparently put it in a database accessible by MILLIONS of individuals. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:07 AM Response to Reply #82 |
85. ah... so now shift over to blaming the victim. you know.... i dont care if they left the keys in |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:25 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Did you feel that way about the Plame affair? Did slapping the "secret" label make that all better? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:04 AM Response to Reply #88 |
96. outing a cia agent is a crime. calling putin an alpha dog is not. nt |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #96 |
161. Perhaps we classify too much then? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 09:36 PM Response to Reply #161 |
192. someones personal emails.... i dont think that has anything to do with classification. let mate |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #78 |
106. Again please read more sources. I've even posted |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
19. Yes... I Can't Wait For The One On Bank Of America !!! |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:04 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. +1 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
23. US has been warmongering and making war for 30 years now ... THAT's what |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #23 |
110. They want progressives to fight over this issue - they want a divide |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #110 |
163. +1000% .... completely agree --- |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
25. I'm concerned, but what am I supposed to do besides complain one way or the other? |
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earthside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
31. Not concerned in the slightest. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
32. Well perhaps you need to know why |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:21 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. +1000 nt |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:38 AM Response to Reply #32 |
48. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:30 AM Response to Reply #32 |
81. So the insulin plant and the anti-snake venom factory are all part of the grand Imperial Design? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #81 |
122. Yes, you need secondary and tertiary facilities |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #122 |
129. So by your definition, every conceivable defense, economic, and public health asset |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #129 |
134. That is how empires think |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #134 |
171. +1000% ...psychiatrists used to betray prisoners who were to be TORTURED .... |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #81 |
128. self-delete n/t |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:57 AM Response to Reply #32 |
93. Running an Empire is a dirty, messy business. |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #93 |
111. Yes it is! Isnt that what bin Laden of all people was ticked off about too? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #111 |
124. Nah Osama is pissed about our presence in Saudi Arabia |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #124 |
127. You have made excellent points. As to the Empire - |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #127 |
135. After WW II Germany had a Sherman plan to help |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #135 |
139. LOL. I 'brain flew' out in the 80s! My dumb arse was talked back in here |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #139 |
143. Steel and industrial production |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #93 |
123. It has it's benefits too |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
38. Well, now we know how the 112th Session of Congress will begin |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
42. I'm a lot more concerned about how our lame stream media seems to be pushing a theme of the leaks... |
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hedgetrimmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Exactly! |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:45 AM Response to Reply #42 |
50. +1 |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:50 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. MSM is getting more and more dumbed down, even "lame stream media" is a |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:56 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. I stopped watching it years ago. I watch some clips on youtube and even that is puke-worthy. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:56 AM Response to Reply #42 |
57. The corporate media are doing a Bruce Ivins on Julian now. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:57 AM Response to Reply #42 |
65. Agree... The media handling is (unsurprisingly) appalling |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:26 AM Response to Reply #42 |
73. No kidding, I kept watching cable news last week for in depth |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
44. I certainly hope this is a "game changer". |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
61. The problem isn't wikileaks, that is just a diversion. The problem is that incompentence allowed |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:48 AM Response to Original message |
64. Not concerned in the least, and you shouldn't be, either. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:00 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Fear of empowering those who drag us into dangerous wars... |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #64 |
105. +1, n/t |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:51 AM Response to Original message |
69. If Wikileaks is Real |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:55 AM Response to Original message |
70. I'm currently on the fence about this one |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:47 AM Response to Reply #70 |
84. what purpose does the public seeing it serve? |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #84 |
87. that's how I see it too... |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:31 AM Response to Reply #84 |
89. +1 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:16 AM Response to Original message |
72. Deleted message |
Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:18 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. I believe that we're supposed to be terrified of "extremists" not Islam. |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
86. I think Wikileaks should release |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #86 |
116. One only need to google one's own name to find out personal info. n/t |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #116 |
141. I've tried it....not much on myself, but... |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #141 |
162. To apply for a job or place to live you get credit checks - |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
94. Not the least bit concerned. |
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emanymton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
95. An Act Of Revolutionary Courage? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
98. Deleted message |
Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
108. How secret, exactly, were these large installations? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
112. Why be concerned? It's amusement to many here, and nothing more. And if something |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
113. Yes I'm concerned |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #113 |
115. What sick evil beast? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
117. Just another thing with too much drama |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
119. I'm a lot more concerned about the suppression of the truth by our "democratic" government. |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
126. Terrorists would never have known the World Trade Center existed... |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #126 |
130. lol. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:31 PM Response to Reply #126 |
172. In fact .... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
133. Deleted message |
social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #133 |
140. Too harsh, I think |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #140 |
145. I suspect I am glad I missed the deleted comment to me... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #140 |
173. If you believe that anything released will "lead to terrorist attacks all over the world".... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
137. more concerned with folks going along with Fear |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #137 |
174. +1000% -- |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
138. Is any of this information actually "secret," or is this just another, "Shh, don't give terrorists |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
142. I'm not concerned in the least over the "leaks." Think about it. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
146. people who live in those countries don't need to be told where they are. |
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xor (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
147. On the other hand, security through obscurity isn't really security either. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
148. Links to the documents please. Let us read and decide for ourselves what the documents really say. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #148 |
152. I provided a link to the article discussing what my thread discusses |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #152 |
154. I believe you can link to the documents without any repercussions to DU. Check with Skinner. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #154 |
156. In this case, the listing of critical sites worldwide... |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
149. Government made those "sensitive" documents available to 2.5 million people! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #149 |
175. Interesting -- US government evidence against its own claims ... !! |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
150. I'm not concerned about that at all, n/t. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
151. "The definition of US national security revealed by the cable is broad and all embracing." |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
153. The "terrasts" could have NEVER found the WTC or the Pentagon... |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
155. Question: |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #155 |
157. I tend to agree with much of what you've posted... |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. I feel like I can't make a final conclusion yet, because |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #158 |
177. Maybe they'll get some new "Plumbers" .... and we'll have some real fun again????? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
180. Prove this has anything to do with our security, and by 'our' I mean the people of this nation. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #180 |
187. Your accusation is highly offensive and uncalled for |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #187 |
188. Then post an answer to the issue you raised. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #188 |
189. ... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #189 |
190. As expected. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #190 |
193. No kidding. |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 03:57 AM Response to Original message |
186. The level of paranoia in the most militarized country of the world |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
194. Some of the US missions abroad that affect US national security is the killing of the innocent. |
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