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Sat May-26-07 12:50 AM
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God damn, Ron Paul is a Republican I'd vote for. (Except for the fact that every single one of |
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the Democratic candidates is someone I'd vote for before I'd vote for him).
Maybe it's time for a dual-party ticket? Just a thought.
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Sat May-26-07 12:52 AM
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That would be entertaining...
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Sat May-26-07 12:52 AM
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2. He was very impressive on Real Time |
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I don't know much about him but he's not afraid to speak the truth.
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Sat May-26-07 12:53 AM
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3. It is time to regain control of our justice system and the very fact |
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that they have been spying on I am sure every single dem and probable all of us should be foremost in everyone's mind...
It is obviously not as simple to defeat their stronghold as so many people believe.
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Sat May-26-07 12:53 AM
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4. Step away from the Republic with your hands up. |
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Sat May-26-07 12:57 AM
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6. No, he's One Of Us. Whether he realizes it or not. He's as much a Democrat as |
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Lieberman is a Republican.
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Sat May-26-07 08:27 PM
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33. not if you give a damn about women, gays, blacks, the government |
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education, health care and a whole host of other issues.
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Sat May-26-07 12:55 AM
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5. Though I admire him I would never vote for him simply based on his desire |
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Sat May-26-07 12:58 AM
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7. I would. WHAT could be more important? People are DYING there, you know. |
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Sat May-26-07 01:03 AM
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11. He is against too many other very important issues to be taken seriously enough. |
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Do you honestly believe that I don't know innocent people are dying? Not only our soldiers but thousands upon thousands of innocent iraqies...
Just because someone stands up and says lets get out of iraq now doesn't mean a hill of beans since many like him have done just that since day one, if it were as easy as some believe fighting this adminstration to listen to the will of the people, we would have been out long ago.
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Sat May-26-07 02:08 AM
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27. And women would be dying too if their rights for a safe abortion were |
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taken from them, and more than likely if people were forced to have children they don't want, those children would either end up dead or serverly abused both mentaly and physically and the gay population will find some of thier numbers being murdered as the hate against their lifestyle was seen to be politicaly correct, I could go on, health care being ingored, millions would die needlessly, fda regulations being ignored and or underfunded which would result in another millions of deaths, etc, etc. etc.
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Wed May-30-07 04:25 PM
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Sat May-26-07 12:59 AM
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8. On social welfare and education issues he is not an ally |
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and is quite possibly even worse than most Republicans on those issues.
However, he would likely be better off and more comfortable switching back to the Libertarian Party.
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Sat May-26-07 01:00 AM
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9. Yes, a Republican who wants a small governmentq |
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which means no domestic programs and of course, no universal health care or any other help for the ones who cannot "pull themselves by their boot straps."
Wonder where he stood about minimum wage.
It is about time that DUers will realize that the war in Iraq is not the only issue for most voters. Yes, the majority want out... unless for some miracle we will start "winning" (no, I have no idea how to define winning here).
But when it is time to vote, it is the issues close to home: jobs, health care, education, retirement. Need I add that that bill just passed also include the increase in federal min. wage that until now was stalled?
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Sat May-26-07 01:02 AM
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10. It's bad karma to align yourself with the John Birch Society. |
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He's the only Representative OR Senator with a 100% approval rating from the JBS. Nobody else, not even any of the republicans, is within 20 points of him.
You might want to rethink this one.
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Sat May-26-07 01:07 AM
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13. but if it can remind republicans what they should be |
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the party of misers, and not the jeebus party, that is a good thing.
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Sat May-26-07 01:07 AM
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12. This Answers The Question Posed In The Title of Another of Your Threads |
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Sat May-26-07 01:20 AM
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16. And What Question And What Thread Would That Be? |
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Sat May-26-07 01:21 AM
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18. The One In This Title (not the thread) |
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Sat May-26-07 01:26 AM
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20. Your point being...what? |
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Sat May-26-07 01:33 AM
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22. Either Not Understanding Politics or Stupidity Explains Your Declaration |
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Edited on Sat May-26-07 01:34 AM by REP
Or perhaps both. I thought it odd when I saw you raise the question in the other thread, but now I understand. Champion a Republican if you so wish, but don't expect many to applaud that decision, despite your parenthetical remark.
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Sat May-26-07 01:56 AM
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24. Here here, it is just frustration talking and such will only ensure justice is never served. |
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Sat May-26-07 01:10 AM
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14. i would NEVER vote for him |
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he has awful positions on programs that people need. he wants to CUT CUT CUT .......
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Sat May-26-07 01:16 AM
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15. Kiss Social Security and Medicare good by/ |
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Sat May-26-07 01:20 AM
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17. I once said something similar about John McCain. |
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Although I would never vote for a Republican what I said was that if John McCain were the Republican candidate in 2000 and he became president, I could stomach him much better than George Bush. Turns out John McCain is as crazy as the rest of them. I'm too cynical to believe anymore that even an honest Republican is good for this country.
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Sat May-26-07 01:28 AM
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21. Christ, I registered Repub for one day so I could vote for him in the 2000 primary. So I do |
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understand your post. He fooled me too.
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Sat May-26-07 01:59 AM
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25. I would never have voted for him though I did admire him at one time, his party |
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stand absolutely keeps me from voting anything remotely republican.
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Sat May-26-07 01:25 AM
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19. Did anyone read the part about "every one of the Democratic candidates being preferable?" |
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I'm stating right here that I'm impressed by the field of candidates the Dems are running.
There's not a ONE of them who I wouldn't want to be President.
But I like this Paul guy. Single issue or not, if that single issue is a useless war that kills American and Iraqis for nothing, I'm with him on that issue.
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Sat May-26-07 01:54 AM
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But, to be honest with you, Ron Paul is going to be ripped to pieces by the Republicans for opposing the war.
Poor dumb bastard. Never knew what hit him.
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Sat May-26-07 02:02 AM
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26. I guess by doing so you ignore the rights of women and gays, interesting... |
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Like it or not, you cannot vote on one issue, that is definately how the repbulicans push their voters to behave and I for one find that incomprehensible to ignore others safety so easily.
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Sat May-26-07 08:20 PM
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32. Like it or not, I CAN vote on one issue, whether you like it or not. Who, exactly, are YOU |
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to tell my how I can or cannot vote?
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Sat May-26-07 02:16 AM
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28. Also Saw The "Maybe It's Time For a Dual-Party Ticket" Part |
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You want to champion a Republican for any office on any ticket? Go right ahead, but don't act shocked when you're not given giggly praise for it. This ain't the Lounge.
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Sat May-26-07 04:26 AM
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31. It may be because I'm from a different system.. |
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but I feel uneasy about dual-party tickets before an election. To me, coalitions are ways of dealing with very close or inconclusive elections after the event, and having them before an election risks pre-empting democracy.
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Sat May-26-07 03:35 AM
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29. He's principled, and that's a rare quality on both sides these days. |
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I wouldn't vote for him, but I do respect him.
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Sat May-26-07 04:24 AM
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He is apparently horribly right-wing on economic issues, and on other issues like choice for women.
I think one has to be careful about supporting ANYONE who happens to be anti-war, or one will end up supporting some fascist ultra-nationalists like LePen and the BNP.
Being outside the American party system, I have no problem with respecting liberal Republicans; I just don't think Paul is one, unless he's changed a lot.
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Sat May-26-07 08:43 PM
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34. I'd vote for an Orange Traffic Cone first |
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Ron Paul is one of the most backwards neanderthals currently sucking oxygen anywhere in the western hemisphere. This post simply astounds me.
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Sat May-26-07 08:57 PM
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He's very right wing when it comes to social issues.
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Wed May-30-07 04:16 PM
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42. Tell us how you really feel (and it sums up my sentiments as well). |
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This is the second time in as many weeks I've seen this tripe posted. Gad.
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Wed May-30-07 04:02 PM
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:kick: for him and Kucinich
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Wed May-30-07 04:03 PM
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37. you want institutions like the EPA, Social Security and Medicare abolished?? |
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Wed May-30-07 04:03 PM
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38. but isn't his overall record quite conservative? I'm not a single issue voter. |
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Edited on Wed May-30-07 04:05 PM by WI_DEM
Yes, I did see where you put you would vote for any of the Dems before Paul.
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Wed May-30-07 04:15 PM
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41. He's a Libertarian who's position on Iraq comes from his nationalistic bent: |
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I can't believe I'm seeing him touted, even weakly, at DU. The position and the man are two entirely different issues. Paul from "On the Issues": http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul.htm
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Wed May-30-07 04:06 PM
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help fix things overseas, but if he got his way, the economy would probably go downhill even quicker than it is now. All the window dressing the Bush Rethugs put on things would go under his philosophy. He's the best Repuke candidate and the polls taken after the debate agree, but I still have way too many philosophical differences.
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Wed May-30-07 04:12 PM
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40. NARAL rating=0%. Repeated nos on allowing stem-cell research. |
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Edited on Wed May-30-07 04:13 PM by blondeatlast
The simplest Google keyword search--"Ron Paul issues." http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul.htm
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Wed May-30-07 04:19 PM
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43. Its a little different from what it appears |
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He's not against stem cell research. He's just against the government funding practically anything, since he's a libertarian. that would go for social security, welfare, schools stem cell research etc.
their philosophy is pretty extreme. I do champion his position on Iraq and he hasn't wavered from that.
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Wed May-30-07 04:23 PM
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44. An Absolute Miracle That He Got Through Medical School |
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I heard him on CSPAN talking about the fed and how they "create" wealth through inflation. This point of view, espoused by many "small gov't" liberterians, reveals an absolutely vacuous understanding of economic theory or econometric reality.
The forces of inflation are not created to generate wealth. They are intractable and continuous and they happen simply because of growth, population expansion, global monetary transfer, technological emergence, and many other factors.
If he is so stupid that he believes this silly construct, i question his credentials in the overall and know that he is not bright enough to lead this country. We've had enough of dumbasses in the White House. 18 of the last 26 years is plenty. The Professor
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Wed May-30-07 04:30 PM
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46. You wouldn't vote for him if you knew more about him. |
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He's my congresscritter and he's a loon. He doesn't believe the US govt should fund ANYTHING except the military and what is expressly mentioned in the Constitution. No taxes. Pay as you go. No public schools.
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