It's interesting that DU posts have taken a decidedly fundamentalist turn

[mudplanet]

I'm seeing a lot of posts dealing with fundamental issues: the correctness of the Constitution, Marx and communism, and Jesus.

I think it's good. Because, every time we post our posts are predicated upon our understanding of reality and our understanding about "right" and "wrong".

And, I don't think it's a very well thought out issue.

[pa28]

1. I've noticed the same thing and I actually think it's a healthy sign.

We're all Democrats; sort of an extended family on the same side of the ideological spectrum. I can't think of a better time to hash out differences before re-grouping in 2012. We need to acknowledge the party lacks cohesion and shared values and this is the ideal time to think about what we really stand for.

Two years is an eternity in politics so if we want to take a lost weekend for navel gazing or indulge ourselves in a little ideological mid-life crisis party I'd say this is the time.

[Tunkamerica]

2. I had wondered what would happen to this site after Bush was gone

It's been a bumpy ride, but victories certainly help.

[LooseWilly]

3. Posts dealing with fundamental issues are not the same as fundamentalist posts...

"Fundamentalism" is associated with an intolerance for differing views, which is different from arguing that the differing views are "fundamentally" incorrect. A "fundamentalist" doesn't acknowledge the validity of opposing views, and so feels no inclination to be bothered with the "detail" of presenting an argument.

Your use of the term "fundamentalist" implies that many of the views, specifically those you listed, are intolerant in the way that "fundamentalism" has come to be used as a synonym for intolerant views.

Just thought I'd point out to you how you're using "loaded" terms in your supposed call for a thinking out of issues.

[panzerfaust]

7. Avec Précision

[mudplanet]

8. To be fair, it was 2am and I was half in the bag when I wrote it

I'd forgotten how good cognac is.

Anyway, I'm a christian and you're not because you don't agree with the bizarre interpretation of the old testament that my preacher vomited all over us this morning.

Obama is a marxist, socialist fascist who wants to destroy our country, and making health care accessible is part of that plan.

The founding fathers actually hated government.

God is hate.

Pretty soon words don't mean anything. You have to formally deconstruct every statement.

We had to destroy the village to save it.

Life is cheap to Asians, they don't value it (this said after Europeans murdered three million Vietnamese)

And now we're looking for a way to leave Afghanistan "with honor"

There's a good one. Honor is usually associated with right action. How can you twist it around to apply it to an illegal war that goes on for a decade and in which the majority of victims are unarmed civilians and the aggressor used as its justification the claim that a bunch of illiterate sheep herders were an immediate and pressing threat to our safety so it's necessary to fly millions of tons of equipment and hundreds of thousands of highly trained troops armed with the finest cutting-edge technology 10 thousand miles to central asia and slaughter them wholesale. Honor. Patriotism.

I used to tire of hearing Orwell quoted and misquoted all the time, and now what he predicted is actually happening all around me. Two years of graduate study in post modernism couldn't straighten this fucking mess out.

[DeSwiss]

4. Agreed.

[stray cat]

5. Fundamentalists on the left -you either think like me or you are a traitor like Obama?

Left =right in terms or ridigity it seems - like a circle

[panzerfaust]

6. No: You either think Obama is Jesus, or you are a traitor.

Let's get it right.