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The Velveteen Ocelot

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17. I'm a Minnesota resident and I've met Al Franken.

Reply to jalan48 (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 29, 2018, 11:14 PM

Jan 2018

You don't have to convince me; I'm still furious. I'm just hoping Smith can hold her own - I'm sure she'll try.

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Gillibrand was on "The View" and Joy Behar asked her why she forced out Al Franken [View all] brush Jan 2018 OP

Seriously, let it go...have your heard the news today? Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #1

I have, and this happened today. Apparently she's got her story and is sticking to it. brush Jan 2018 #2

So, you'd prefer to have another Republican in the Senate? brooklynite Jan 2018 #111

We would need to gift wrap the seat for the GOP if he wins a primary...and for those who say Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #148

the dentist will get plenty traction in MN quartz007 Jan 2018 #176

We're talking about NY. brooklynite Jan 2018 #184

Honestly, I fight the fights I can win...I was adamant that Franken should not resign. I Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #112

I completely agree with you pandr32 Jan 2018 #128

Thank you kindly...we should be increasing Democratic Senators...not getting rid of any...and unless Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #147

I don't care about that ...what would you expect? I am concerned with the news out of justice Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #113

What news has you spooked? sfwriter Jan 2018 #5

The news about the Justice Department and the FBI...pugs are trying to destroy the Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #110

That just hasn't bothered me. sfwriter Jan 2018 #144

We it is bothering me...and I believe it may lead to firing Rod Rosenstein...and next Mueller. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #146

Of course it bothers you, and me. But... Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #151

What news? enough Jan 2018 #7

Please. I was as upset as anyone about Franken...However, we have pugs trying to destroy the justice Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #109

NO hurple Jan 2018 #59

Ah, thanks for sharing. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #108

What is with all the let it go and move on folks. wasupaloopa Jan 2018 #68

Me too. happy feet Jan 2018 #106

You want a sitting Democratic Senator out in a time when we have nothing ...no power Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #107

Yeah, we are being played for sure. I would suggest to them to ask FRANKEN Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #152

Nope...it is merely a way to attack and divide Democrats. You would think after 16, they would Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #156

Do you live in New York...if so don't vote for her in a primary...but if you get a GOP will you be Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #149

Isn't it funny Sailor65x1 Jan 2018 #158

That is a very good point. I agree. I am sick of the this nonsense. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #164

Not funny at all... suegeo Jan 2018 #166

I am sure PatSeg Jan 2018 #168

Seriously you let it go ! stonecutter357 Jan 2018 #185

Eight my butt... sfwriter Jan 2018 #3

DITTO! BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #8

The Senate ethics investigations are a joke mythology Jan 2018 #35

No, Franken actually didnt admit to harassment. Bluepinky Jan 2018 #61

+1 nt Canoe52 Jan 2018 #88

Thank you !!! pangaia Jan 2018 #89

Given This Post. . . ProfessorGAC Jan 2018 #115

What goes around comes around. democratisphere Jan 2018 #4

She also said he was a friend, she loved him, no excuse for loved friends UTUSN Jan 2018 #6

I wish we had Al in the Senate right now. He would be speaking out-any word from his replacement? jalan48 Jan 2018 #9

Here's a statement from his replacement, Tina Smith: The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #10

Thanks-looks like it's from the local paper. I don't think she quite has the gravitas of Franken yet jalan48 Jan 2018 #13

She's been on the job less than a month. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #14

That's the problem-we are a critical time and we lost one of our strongest voices. jalan48 Jan 2018 #15

I'm a Minnesota resident and I've met Al Franken. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #17

I'm sure she will be able to down the road. It's like losing one of the best players on your team. jalan48 Jan 2018 #21

Yes and they have to get to know people. You don't go in when you're new and Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #33

I'm not that angry at Tina LakeArenal Jan 2018 #26

Not much. Her main goal is to get reelected in November. dflprincess Jan 2018 #16

I don't know much about her; I hope she'll grow a good spine. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #20

She is my Senator and she is a straight up Zoonart Jan 2018 #132

This is Minnesota's Tina Smith. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #143

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Self destruction. Turbineguy Jan 2018 #12

I wonder if she even believes what she's saying dflprincess Jan 2018 #18

I doubt very much that she'll be the nominee, or that she would have been The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #22

But I think she thought she had a shot at it (how many politicians fool themselves about that?) dflprincess Jan 2018 #25

I doubt she saw Franken as competition. Only on the left blogosphere was he considered a contender karynnj Jan 2018 #126

If she were consistent she would have gone after Claire McCaskill when McCaskill helped dflprincess Jan 2018 #163

McCaskill had a competing proposal. karynnj Jan 2018 #165

I'm glad that I missed it. CentralMass Jan 2018 #19

I had to turn her off... LakeArenal Jan 2018 #23

Even if she thinks the women or some of them weren't credible do you think she can really come Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #34

No she won't because she's duplicitous...... LakeArenal Jan 2018 #124

Totally agree Rene Jan 2018 #71

She wants to be the 2020 nominee and took out one of the top candidates. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #24

Ding ding ding! Glamrock Jan 2018 #27

Now that's just ridiculous mariesa Jan 2018 #63

She's a real piece of work. nt BootinUp Jan 2018 #28

Credible as in panel investigation ? Or she believed it so must be truth? lunasun Jan 2018 #29

That would be my first question and the second would be what does she know that absolutely .... marble falls Jan 2018 #114

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You aren't the only one who would be banned on here bathroommonkey76 Jan 2018 #38

"Goody" Gillibrand? mariesa Jan 2018 #64

Okay, Goody. mac56 Jan 2018 #98

She may want.......... MyOwnPeace Jan 2018 #31

She BEST not run. I thought she was terrible today. RandomAccess Jan 2018 #32

Half of those 8 were anonymous. LisaL Jan 2018 #36

So every victim of sexual misconduct must give their name? crazycatlady Jan 2018 #117

Why was she appointed to that seat and not Caroline Kennedy? Zen Democrat Jan 2018 #37

She saw the evidence, you did not. nt Blue_true Jan 2018 #39

That's nonsense. LisaL Jan 2018 #40

Not as much as you claiming that a US Senator who was there had less info than you. nt Blue_true Jan 2018 #42

I am not claiming she has less info than me. LisaL Jan 2018 #44

WTH are you talking about? Gillibrand wasn't there when anything happened. brush Jan 2018 #48

Do you understand what evidence means? Blue_true Jan 2018 #53

I don't. She just said today on "The View" that there were 8 credible accusations. brush Jan 2018 #55

What facts do you think she has access to? LisaL Jan 2018 #56

Look, I like Al Franken, but that photo on the airplane mariesa Jan 2018 #65

Airplane? mac56 Jan 2018 #99

Seriously? We all saw the evidence of Tweeden, the first accuser, sexually assaulting... brush Jan 2018 #45

There were more than Tweeden. Blue_true Jan 2018 #46

And what are their names? Do tell. LisaL Jan 2018 #47

To not get ripped to pieces by zealots that ignore information they don't want to hear. nt Blue_true Jan 2018 #50

On the contrary, I would have loved to hear what they had to say. LisaL Jan 2018 #57

You mean the ones who ignore the fact those accusations are anonymous? kcr Jan 2018 #159

Yeah, the one who said Al groped her on her side, and there was one who said... brush Jan 2018 #49

... LexVegas Jan 2018 #41

Any Democratic Candidate for 2020 is better than Gillibrand IluvPitties Jan 2018 #43

Utter. dchill Jan 2018 #51

Yeah, all these offenders are horrible unless it is someone I like GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #52

She said he had a right to investigation ...but drove him out before he could have nadine_mn Jan 2018 #54

"He has a right to a hearing but not my silence." BS, you know that a practiced... brush Jan 2018 #96

Sounds like the same sort of reasoning that The_Casual_Observer Jan 2018 #58

Wow. I thought it was bad enough that an asshole like Trump was elected. mariesa Jan 2018 #60

Not every uncomfortable touch is sexual harassment. Bluepinky Jan 2018 #67

Oh, c'mon. We all saw the plane photo. mariesa Jan 2018 #73

The airplane photo was supposed to be a joke. Bluepinky Jan 2018 #87

The bottom line is that the photo mariesa Jan 2018 #91

Yes, that is why he apologized for the photo. Bluepinky Jan 2018 #92

Honestly, it was enough for me, but times have changed. mariesa Jan 2018 #93

The person who hasnt paid a price is Trump. Bluepinky Jan 2018 #100

The apology was enough for Leeann Tweeden too, and she was the offended woman. Demit Jan 2018 #105

Oh get off your pedestal will you? The you are judge jurry and hangman. We investigate first here wasupaloopa Jan 2018 #70

Nah. I'm just taking Al Franken's lead. mariesa Jan 2018 #77

There is no need to sacrafice anyone. If that's how you want to get change, who's next? wasupaloopa Jan 2018 #83

I didn't take an idiotic photo on an airplane. mariesa Jan 2018 #84

I strongly feel Franken should have had the investigation mvd Jan 2018 #62

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2018 #66

You know, I'm tired of the response being that mariesa Jan 2018 #69

To me, it is about due process. These claims don't sit right with me mvd Jan 2018 #72

Senator Franken chose to forgo due process. mariesa Jan 2018 #74

He did say he wanted an investigation though mvd Jan 2018 #75

He said he was open to an ethics investigation. mariesa Jan 2018 #78

I personally believe he did want one mvd Jan 2018 #79

Very much so. mariesa Jan 2018 #81

Everytime he is mentioned... tonedevil Jan 2018 #86

Well sadly we have learned that too many people fall for fake news. mariesa Jan 2018 #90

I've already seen... tonedevil Jan 2018 #94

Fox news is the king of fake news mariesa Jan 2018 #95

Should and do... tonedevil Jan 2018 #135

For your illumination... tonedevil Jan 2018 #145

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Did you miss this sentence? tonedevil Jan 2018 #154

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She's terrible. kcr Jan 2018 #160

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don't need accusations when quartz007 Jan 2018 #177

totally agree steve2470 Jan 2018 #134

I am not a fan. Nor will I ever be. Tipperary Jan 2018 #76

That's good. mariesa Jan 2018 #80

I have never been a fan, in the context you took my comment, of any politician. Tipperary Jan 2018 #116

Gillibrand and her posse... quickesst Jan 2018 #82

Gillibrand and her posse mariesa Jan 2018 #85

All right all right quickesst Jan 2018 #120

You mean this posse? Trumpocalypse Jan 2018 #103

yep quickesst Jan 2018 #118

When you put one Senator over all the others Trumpocalypse Jan 2018 #119

They are not clones.... quickesst Jan 2018 #121

No it is a cult of personality Trumpocalypse Jan 2018 #122

If the logic and common sense of my reply quickesst Jan 2018 #129

Not logic or common sense but cult of personality Trumpocalypse Jan 2018 #138

haha... quickesst Jan 2018 #141

Advocating a cult of personality Trumpocalypse Jan 2018 #142

Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat... quickesst Jan 2018 #161

Lame response Trumpocalypse Jan 2018 #167

Okay, I'll give it one more shot... quickesst Jan 2018 #169

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Yet you qualified your statement with an IF Trumpocalypse Jan 2018 #180

Here ya go... quickesst Jan 2018 #187

"Think of the children" and "That's not okay" were her talking points. betsuni Jan 2018 #97

Franken was a champion of women's issues. None of this makes sense. n/t wroberts189 Jan 2018 #101

By not affording Al Franken the hearing he requested, any presidential ambitions she may have had still_one Jan 2018 #102

Good on her for stating her case. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #104

Senator Gillibrand said it was Franken's right to a hearing, and then proceeded to start a petition still_one Jan 2018 #127

I agree with you about the Presidential ambition aspect. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #133

We obviously aren't going to be on the same page on the Franken issue, and for all practical still_one Jan 2018 #136

Agree and thank you. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #137

To Sen. Gillibrand: As you can see here, you should NOT run for president!!!!! drbtg1 Jan 2018 #123

... LexVegas Jan 2018 #125

....and that's why I don't bother posting here all that much. drbtg1 Jan 2018 #130

... LexVegas Jan 2018 #131

Yes, a handful of anonymous bloggers have determined your future. brooklynite Jan 2018 #140

Much as I loved Franken & hated what happened, we need to move on. CrispyQ Jan 2018 #139

Gillibrand really lost me with her behavior on Al Franken's travails MBS Jan 2018 #153

Eight women have spoken out publicly detailing different alleged incidents when Sen. Al Franken... oberliner Jan 2018 #170

You think we aren't aware of these claims? The first one, Tweeden, sexaully assaulted a guitar... brush Jan 2018 #172

Those news reports are the source (ABC News, Time Magazine, Politico, Axios, Variety, Newsweek, etc) oberliner Jan 2018 #173

This a debate that has no benefit for us. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #175

The reason for the OP is that she was just on "The View" claiming that there were 8 credible... brush Jan 2018 #179

Thus, the OP is problematic - implying that KG lied, when she just cited the same figure oberliner Jan 2018 #182

Just review Tweeden the first accuser, the right winger who worked with Stone and Hannity... brush Jan 2018 #183

Franken lost his seat workinclasszero Jan 2018 #178

Gillibrand lost any presidential aspirations she might have had? oberliner Jan 2018 #181

Because she will encounter fierce opposition within the party workinclasszero Jan 2018 #186

More opposition than HRC faced from within the party? oberliner Jan 2018 #188